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Katy ISD Work Study Meeting, May 6, 2024

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  1. 0:00 to 0:30 1. Call to Order
  2. 0:30 to 1:14 2. Pledges of Allegiance
  3. 1:14 to 6:45 3. Recognitions
  4. 6:45 to 15:23 4. Public Comment
  5. 15:23 to 15:48 5. Closed Meeting
  6. 15:48 to 17:18 6. Reconvene from Closed Meeting
  7. 17:18 to 1:22:31 7. Reports
  8. 1:22:31 to 1:23:43 8.1 Discuss and consider Board approval of the 2024- 2025 School Health Advisory Council (SHAC) representatives.
  9. 1:23:43 to 1:39:57 8.2 Discuss and consider Board approval of the May 2024 budget amendments.
  10. 1:39:57 to 1:45:28 8.3 Discuss and consider Board Approval of the March 2024 Financial Reports.
  11. 1:45:28 to 1:54:13 Items 8.4 & 8.5
  12. 1:54:13 to 2:02:47 8.6 Discuss and consider Board approval of the 2024- 2025 UIL Student Accident Insurance proposal.
  13. 2:02:47 to 2:03:32 8.7 Discuss and consider Board approval of a contract for the renovation to Bear Creek Elementary School.
  14. 2:03:32 to 2:17:54 8.8 Discuss and consider Board approval of the design associated with the classroom addition to Pattison Elementary School.
  15. 2:17:54 to 2:21:44 8.9 Discuss and consider Board approval of a contract for the renovations to the Franz Road Storage Building.
  16. 2:21:44 to 2:22:32 8.10 Discuss and consider future Board approval of the 2024 - 2025 Texas Teacher Evaluation and Support System (T-TESS) Second Appraisers.
  17. 2:22:32 to 2:29:37 8.11 Discuss and consider future Board approval of additional department staffing needs to address growth for the 2024 - 2025 school year.
  18. 2:29:37 to 2:32:38 9. Information Items
  19. 2:32:38 to 2:32:56 10. Future Meetings

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1. Call to Order

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Good afternoon.

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Noting that a quorum is present, I hereby call this work study meeting of

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the board of trustees of Katy Independent School District to order.

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Today is Monday, May 6th, 2024, and the time is 5.01 PM.

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Dr. Gorsuch, will you verify that we're in compliance with the provisions of

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the Texas Open Meetings Act with regard to notice for this meeting?

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Mr. President, I do confirm we're in compliance with the provisions of

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the Texas Open Meeting Act for a meeting tonight. Thank you. KDIC Police Chief Henry

2. Pledges of Allegiance

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Gault will lead us in the Pledges of Allegiance.

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I pledge allegiance to the nation of Texas, one state, under God, one and indivisible.

3. Recognitions

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At this time, I'd like to introduce Nick Petito, Director of Internal and Community Relations,

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for the recognitions portion of our meeting tonight.

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Good evening, President Perez, Trustees, and Superintendent Grigorski.

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Tonight, we are proud to have with us Mayor Dusty Thiele, City of Katy Mayor, along with Mayor Pro Tem Chris Harris, and Councilman Rory Robertson to present a special proclamation.

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Welcome.

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Good evening.

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It feels sort of weird looking at y'all instead of looking out this way, which is what I'm used to doing.

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But President Perez and the trustees, we thank you for letting us come here tonight to honor our teachers.

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I think you'll see that, you know, we all have great respect for them.

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Both my parents retired as teachers.

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Mayor Pro Tem Harris' mother and father are both retired teachers, and she actually serves on the school board at Navasota ISD.

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He also has a wife who's a schoolteacher in Katy ISD.

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And you also have done substitute teaching, correct?

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Correct.

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And we have Councilmember Rory Robertson, who is also a schoolteacher for Katy ISD

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and has a wife at Faldon Elementary, and Chris's wife is at Bethke.

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So we have great respect for our teachers here and great respect for what you all do.

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So I'll go ahead and read our proclamations. Proclamation for Teacher Appreciation Week, May 6th through May 10th, 2024.

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Whereas teachers are responsible for shaping the minds and hearts of countless students in order to ensure they all have equal chance at life through education.

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education, whereas teachers spend countless hours preparing lessons, creating safe and

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loving school cultures, building deep partnerships with families and communities, collaborating

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with colleagues and reflecting on their craft, whereas teachers go above and beyond the call

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of duty to fill many roles such as mentors, role models, coaches, and motivators, whereas

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Whereas teachers engage students with exciting and rigorous teaching and learning.

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Whereas the city of Katy recognizes and supports our teachers in educating the children in our community.

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Now, therefore, be it resolved that I, Dusty Thill, Mayor, did on the 22nd day of April, 2024, proclaim May 6th through the 10th, 2024, as Teacher Appreciation Week in the city of Katy, Texas.

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and encouraged all members of our community to personally express their

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appreciation to our teachers for their dedication and devotion to the children

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of Katy. Witness thereof I set my hand and call Cecile the city of Katy, Texas

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to be affixed on the 22nd day of April 2024, Dusty Thiel mayor. So thank you all

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very much. Thank you. Thank you to all the teachers out here.

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Thank you for this in honor of all teachers in KDISD.

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This concludes our recognitions portion of this meeting.

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Thank you so much. Thank you.

4. Public Comment

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At this time, the Board of Trustees will give members of the public an opportunity to speak

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in accordance with KDISD Board Policy BED Local.

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As defined by Board Policy, speakers who signed up by 2 p.m. on Monday, May 6, 2024,

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24 provided their first and last name and signed in 15 minutes prior to the start of the meeting

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we allowed to address the board speakers who signed up to speak on posted agenda items be

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allowed three minutes if a speaker is not finished speaking at the end of three minutes the audio

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will turn off the speakers wish to share written material with the board please provide 10 copies

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to the secretary for board services before the meeting begins for board members the superintendent

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the Chief Communications Officer and permanent record. If a speaker has not

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attempted to solve a matter administratively through proper channels

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as stated in Board policy, the presiding officer's designee shall advise the

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speaker to seek resolution through the appropriate policy. Finally, pursuant to

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Texas Government Code sections 551.074 and 551.0821, the Board will not permit

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the presentation of personally identifiable information regarding a

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student and will not discuss the appointment employment evaluation reassignment duties

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discipline or dismissal of a public officer or employee or to hear a complaint or charge against

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an officer or employee should a speaker wish to address one of these issues they must do so through

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the appropriate local grievance policies fng local dgba local cke local or gf local our speakers will

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be called forward in the order they signed up to speak and we have two speakers uh today

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tana wise followed by lisa lister brown

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Good evening, Dr. Gorgorski and board members.

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My name is Tana Weiss, and I've been a KDISD resident for 30 years.

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It seems we should have to clarify that since we've had so many invited guests

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and unwanted visiting speakers from outside our district.

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I'm here to speak about Agenda Item 7.1, the upcoming 2024-25 budget.

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As the state of Texas continues to shamefully underfund public education, I'd like to share some thoughts from teachers on how this affects them daily.

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With the ICs being cut on each campus, this creates a huge loss for subject teachers.

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ICs have so many important roles in supporting teachers, but they were also critical in the process of rolling out the new literacy curriculum that this district has spent $10 million adopting.

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Instructional coaches who were providing the bulk of on-campus support to teachers as they worked through an entire ELA curriculum overhaul are being eliminated.

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Question for the board.

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Who is left to implement the board-approved new curriculum?

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Offloading everything the coaches did back onto the teachers does nothing for teacher retention.

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Speaking of, what was the return rate on the staffing survey that ultimately resulted in the elimination of half the ICs?

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Who was involved in this decision?

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Not every IC was useless, as it seems they were deemed.

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Librarians are the heart of our schools and with upcoming retirements, many because of the new book policies and the politicized atmosphere they are asked to work in.

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It has been difficult to ensure applicants that our librarians won't be the next group to be eliminated.

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Following the recent examples by neighboring districts, Spring Branch, Sci Fair and Fort Bend.

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support staff feels a target on their backs. Teachers are vital and supporting them properly

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is imperative. Keep class sizes, workloads, and discipline manageable by keeping campus staff

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and administrators who support them. It would also be helpful if this board was on the educator's

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side to both balance the budget we have while simultaneously advocating, no, demanding that

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the state funds public schools.

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Please do not make mass layoffs the next KDISD headline.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Lisa Lister-Brown.

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My name is Lisa Lister-Brown.

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I'm a KDISD parent.

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I am also addressing agenda item 7.1.

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I'm not an alarmist, but I am alarmed at the funding crisis faced by this district.

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As has been observed by others, this is not a funding crisis at the state level.

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This is a manufactured crisis at the state level, a betrayal and a breach of the oath

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of office to uphold the Texas state constitution and it deeply affects

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public schools across Texas. The money is there in Austin where a record 33

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billion dollar surplus was slated for last year yet public schools are not

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getting the funding they need. They are suffering because of this manufactured

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crisis. The funding crisis exists because money that should be coming to the

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district from the state is not coming. It's not coming because the state is not

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not increasing the funding available to schools to take account of inflation.

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This district's award winning finance team, under the direction of

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Superintendent Gurgoski, has worked hard to limit the damage to our staff and

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students, but until the basic allotment is equitably adjusted to allow

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the district to operate, we will continue to struggle to meet the needs of

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the district and our ability to be an educational leader by implementing new

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and improved initiatives is being hampered.

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I am grateful for the voice of experience from trustees Redmond, Fox and Champagne that are at the dais this evening.

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And I am worried that trustees Perez, Calhoun, Teamee and Kazela are inexperienced and frankly not interested in...

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Excuse me just one second. Did you sign up to speak on the budget or on the budget amendments?

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I think that's what you signed up to speak on.

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On either the budget, it's an agenda item.

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If you would address yourself to the agenda items.

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You signed up to speak on budget amendments or the budget?

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The district would do well for you to read Robert's Rules of Order, President.

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I have told you what I'm speaking about.

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Would you stick to the items on the agenda?

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I'm talking about the budget and the problems with the budget

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that are caused by this board not standing up to the state,

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and it's relevant.

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What we see is Trustees Perez-Calhoun, Teemee, and Gazela

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are more interested to use their positions

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I would appreciate if you could stick to the comments.

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Do you have any comments on the budget presented?

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Listen.

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You're more interested in this district not offending your personal prejudices

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than giving our district opportunities to succeed.

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We have only allowed people to speak on the agenda items.

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In the absence of strong action from the majority of this board,

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people in our community can do something here.

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They can contact their elected state representatives

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and let them know how this manufactured crisis is affecting them personally,

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how it has impacted their children's education,

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how it has impacted their ability to teach productively,

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how the manufactured crisis has impacted their career

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and their family's livelihood.

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People in our community can also reach out to the Commissioner of Education,

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Mike Murat, and encourage him to provide an equitable increase

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to the funding available.

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I encourage this community to rise up

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because the majority of this board have proved they would rather show solidarity with Austin and betray us.

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Thank you very much.

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This concludes the open forum portion of our meeting.

5. Closed Meeting

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The board will now convene and close meeting as authorized under Section 551.001 of the Texas Government Code for the following purposes.

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Texas Government Code 551.071, 551.129.

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The Board will now reconvene in open meeting.

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Today is Monday, May 6, 2024, and the time is 610 p.m.

6. Reconvene from Closed Meeting

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On behalf of my colleagues, I welcome everyone to this evening's work study meeting.

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I just want to mention at the outset as we start with our regular meeting or work study

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meeting that the Board cannot tolerate any disruption of the meeting by members of the

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audience.

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If after at least one warning from the presiding officer, any person continues to disrupt the meeting by his or her words or actions, the presiding officer, that being myself, or his or her designee, may request assistance from law enforcement officials to have the person removed from the meeting.

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So I just want to mention that at the outset.

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And at this time, we'll reconvene from the closed meeting.

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And each board member receive the agenda.

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and documentation for this meeting on Friday, May 3, 2024.

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The Board will receive information and recommendations from staff,

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administration, and the Superintendent on these agenda items at tonight's meeting.

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Board members will be able to ask questions, receive answers,

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and should be prepared to take action.

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The Board has just reconvened from closed meeting

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in accordance with Chapter 551 of the Texas Government Code.

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Any action arising from discussions in a closed meeting

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must be taken in open meeting.

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The first item is 7.1, which is a 2024-2025 budget update.

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Our presenter is Chris Smith, Chief Financial Officer.

7. Reports

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Welcome.

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Welcome.

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Thank you, President Perez, Superintendent Gagorski, and trustees.

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We're in March.

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I'm sorry, we're in May.

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We've gone through March and April, and we're at May.

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We're taking a closer look at the budget projections, and you get a break next month.

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Hopefully you won't have to hear from from me next month and we'll have the all funds presented to you in July

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And of course the adoption in August

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Want to start out with this on how school finance works and just kind of just reestablish the basis for what for how we get

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funded I think this is important to do at least once a year and

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Of course the legislature sets the funding levels through the basic allotment

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And it's the number of students that show up each day that determines how much funding a district gets.

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So if a district has 30,000 students, they're going to get a lot more funding than a district that has 5,000 students, et cetera.

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And a lot of what is in property taxes are used first to determine how the cash gets to a school district.

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district. And when that, and so I brought this canister that you see in front of me

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as an example, and the bottom of that canister is brown sand, and that represents about the

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amount of taxes that a school district, that Katy gets, from local taxpayers paying in.

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That's not enough to fill that canister. That canister is the basic allotment, $6,160. Wish

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Wish I could write that on there with a Sharpie, but they'll change it the minute I do.

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$6,160 has been the size of that canister.

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And so in Katy, about 50% of our canister is filled up by local taxes.

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Based on the 96,000 students that we have, that's not enough.

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We need the state to give us state funding to make up or to fill our canister, and that's what that pink is.

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And so if, for example, you added a nuclear plant tomorrow in our district, you would drastically, with no students, that would drastically increase the level of brown sand, reduce the level of pink sand, but the $6,160, the size of the canister would not change.

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It goes the same way on the flip side.

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If a meteor hit somewhere and it hit our largest taxpayers, the brown sand level would fall, taxes would fall.

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But based on our number of students, the pink sand would fill it in, keeping that level at $6,160.

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If a school district is very, very property wealthy, you've heard of Robin Hood districts, well, their cup overflows with brown sand.

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And when that brown sand overflows, that's the Robin Hood.

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That's them writing a check, sending it to Austin, and then Austin turns around and sends that to districts like Katy.

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I think it's a misnomer.

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A lot of people think that Katy can support itself all on its own on its taxes, but that is not true.

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We're about 50 percent reliant on the state.

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And I say that because everybody, every year this time, property values go out and everybody gets their property tax statement.

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and their values go up and their taxes go up,

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and they say, I'm paying more, we should get more.

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Unfortunately, it just changes the level of sand.

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And I think it's important to reestablish that

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and let taxpayers know and the board know, administration know,

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and everybody know that just because somebody pays more in taxes

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doesn't mean that the school district gets more.

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The school district will not get more until that basic allotment is changed.

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So with that said, property values are now as important when it comes to the bottom line, because we're going to get $6,160 whether our property values go up or down, period.

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But they go up, and that does impact the debt service fund when we issue bonds. That's why we are issuing bonds, because we're having to build new schools to keep up with the growth.

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Again, property value does not impact the M&O tax rate.

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Enrollment growth and the special populations of that enrollment growth are what affects

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a district's budget.

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Again, when we go to 95,000 students times $6,160 times the type of students that we

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we have that generate significant revenue compared to a district that has 10,000 students,

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et cetera.

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State funding formulas, they're the same as they have been for quite some time, since

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2019.

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The changes are doubtful, and they are not included in this budget.

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This budget has been built so far under current law.

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all. There's 4.5.4 million students in the tech in Texas are 1,207 districts, 8,973 schools.

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And I look at it like that and I go, wow, it's big. Consider we're big at 96,000 students,

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5.4 million students in the state of Texas. State budget math is biennial. It's every two years. So

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they'll meet again in January of 2025. So not again for another, was that eight months, seven

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seven months that they'll meet and that's for two years.

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So that last bullet says state funding has been read to be flat for the last five years.

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Sure enough, this is from the Legislative Budget Board.

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They published this back in the summer of 23.

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And you can see that that solid line with the triangles on it that kind of goes through

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that white section is headed downward.

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downward, and that is the amount of dollars that school districts are getting per student.

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It shows that buying power is going down, essentially, because of inflation.

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So during the last budget, or during the last legislature that was meeting this time last

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year, we knew they had a state surplus.

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They continue to have a $30 billion surplus.

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They wanted to cut property taxes.

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They did.

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We were able to see significant property reductions, tax rate reductions in this district at 18.5 cents.

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We also, the voters of this state approved a homestead exemption to go from $40,000 to $100,000 per homestead.

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That created significant property tax relief, which is a good thing.

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Enrollment funding based on enrollment and not average daily attendance.

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We may have 96,000 kids, but we budget about 89,000 average daily attendance.

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That difference is we're hiring teachers for 96,000 students,

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but we don't get funded on the average daily attendance.

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We have a good attendance rate here in Katy, historically, at 97%, 98%.

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That's dipped a couple of years, and as you know, we're working to keep that up

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because, number one, children need to come to school to learn,

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but it also does that is how we're funded school safety we we got that

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additional 32 cents a student during this last session and $15,000 per campus

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to hire security for the campuses which we have done basic allotment changes

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there were none and teacher pay for retirees or cost of living adjustment

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for retirees that's important for our retirees they got some funding a cost of

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living adjustment but that's about it eight point seven billion dollars of

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quote new money you've seen this slide before probably last summer but in

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curriculum in school safety we got 300 million that's the what I mentioned

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earlier that dollar 30 cents per student plus fifteen thousand dollars per campus

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this section in the great green that four billion dollars there's that

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that infamous $4 billion that we talk about that is set aside in the current state budget

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to be spent for education, but until it is attached to a bill, it cannot be delivered

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to school districts.

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And so that is the $4 billion, and there's $50 million for virtual education.

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Those three things, oh, and the school choice, those three things are kind of tied up in

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not having a bill to attach that funding to.

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And then we've got some appropriations elsewhere in the act.

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TRS Active Care, they gave $588 million to TRS Active Care to go towards that loss.

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That did not help any ISD that is self-funded like Katy.

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It only helped those districts that participate in TRS Active Care.

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And then you can see they restored the increase in the new instructional facilities allotment for a cost of about $60 million.

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We are an annual participant in that.

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When we open a new school, we get $1,000 per student in that new school to go towards the big expense of opening a school.

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The fixed cost, like a principal, a band director, et cetera.

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So they do kind of, I call it the spoon to, the spoonful of sugar that helps medicine go down.

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It just kind of provides a little bit.

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It doesn't provide all of it, but it does help when we open those new schools.

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And then the instructional materials allotment, we talked about that a lot last month.

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That's the 60% reduction that they had made the previous biennium that they restored.

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So it was not new money.

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Neither of those were new money.

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Those are just restorations to previous cuts.

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That all ended in this headline, no new teacher raises.

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It's going to be tough for school district budgets, et cetera.

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And here is an example.

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I've taken the identities off of these districts, and in order to – for those identity sakes, I've divided it by the fall enrollment.

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enrollment and so if you take a budget deficit for like for example the first one on that list

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and you divide their deficit by the number of students in that particular district they're

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looking at a $1,500 deficit per student per student and that's Katie down there at the bottom

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thank goodness now that's pre-raise amount but that's our deficit that you're going to see tonight

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divided by our number of students and that's about $105 per student it's about seven bosses

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cut to the chase about 7.9 million dollar deficit so the governor what's

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what's next the governor could call a special session I don't think that's

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gonna happen the funds that I just showed you that four billion dollars

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remain set aside in the state's budget there must be law agreed by lawmakers

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and signed off by the governor to spend those dollars and again they don't meet

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again until january so the initial uh budget jaft um before i get going into the heart of that i'm

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going to remind this board that that there's not a lot we can do to control our revenue

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we've tried a vatre that didn't work we've we've had an average daily attendance incentive that

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we're that has so far proven to be successful we'll have a report on that in july to the board

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but so far that looks to be successful both in the classroom and it helps with

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our revenue per student and then there's disaster pennies we've not had a

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disaster this board used those disaster pennies back to during in the wake of

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Hurricane Harvey very successfully and but that's not available to us at this

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time so the assumptions that this budget is leading into is the same basic

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allotment the same size canister right here six thousand one hundred sixty

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dollars it's got the golden penny yield is the same at a hundred twenty six

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dollars per water for the golden pennies we again we have all eight golden

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pennies and then we have three point zero two copper pennies on top of that

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Enrollment, we show an increase of 1,290 students from budget to budget.

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That's about a 1.5 million students.

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four percent increase while we're on that i will say that the state of texas or tea just last week

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published the fast growth allotment and of all 1207 school districts in the state katie continues

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to be for the third year in a row since the program's existence the largest or the fastest

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growing school district in the state we've grown over 14 000 kids over a five-year period of time

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which is about 1,000 kids more than the district behind us.

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And so we continue to be the fastest growing district in the state of Texas.

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But we're only showing a 1.4% or a 1,290 student gain this next year.

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Percentage increase in our taxable values is about 3%.

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We've been holding this in there, and then we got our initial projections last week,

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and we're still working through those but it's going to end up being somewhere close to around

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three percent maybe a little bit better than that but it's not going to be the 10 11 that we've seen

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in years past uh in this this this is a misnomer and and mr shuss and esperanza and i'm uh

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miss rios we're we're speaking about this uh about an hour ago about our need to re-label this and uh

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instead of teacher growth, it's teachers, librarians, it's anybody tied to the teacher

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salary schedule, which is a lot, not just teachers. And so that's a misnomer and it's become more

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important to, and so we're going to figure out a better way to say that. We may just say campus

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growth, non-campus growth is one of the ideas we kicked around, but those tied to the new teacher

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salaries are to the teacher salary schedule or 131 positions those not are

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186 those are all campus related all but 10 of those positions are out on a

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campus those are of course teachers counselors librarians nurses

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administration for the two new campuses band directors athletic coordinators etc

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for those new campuses 50 or 60 aides instructional aides at those new campuses

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CUSTODIANS, BUS DRIVERS, POLICE OFFICERS, SECURITY GUARDS.

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THOSE ARE SOME OF THE EXAMPLES OF THE CAMPUS-RELATED POSITIONS,

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BUT THEY MAY NOT BE TEACHERS, COUNSELORS,

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OR LIBRARIANS OR NURSES.

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TAX REVENUE, YOU CAN SEE BACK WHEN WE ADOPTED

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THE OFFICIAL BUDGET WITH $418 MILLION,

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TAX REVENUE'S GONE DOWN.

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WELL, YOU DROPPED YOUR TAX RATE 18 CENTS,

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And now we've grown 3%.

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So you're getting back to the 418.

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I bet by this time next year it's going to be in excess of that again.

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But you can see local revenue has gone up by $6 million in the budget.

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That is strictly the majority of that is in interest income.

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Interest yields over this last 18 months have really increased.

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We thought they were going to start going down.

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They have not

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So that's a while that's showing an increase the primary reason why we're showing an increase

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Say funding is going up. Of course. We've got more students

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And that this mixture is working again

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But those those two things work hand in hand and we got the TRS on

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Sorry the TRS contributions that are an offset there's an expense that will match that exactly and nothing

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on the TRS contributions affects our bottom line.

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We are required to budget the expense

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that the state provides for us towards TRS.

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We have to show it as a revenue and expense.

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No cash ever comes in or goes out of our hands.

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It's just an accounting maneuver.

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And then of course our federal revenue,

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you can see that's the $7.1 million dip.

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That's in the charge program primarily.

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And then we've also have less indirect cost on our grants.

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When ESSER goes away, you don't get the indirect cost on that big grant, and so that indirect cost goes away.

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And so that's one of the other things that's pulling that federal revenue down.

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We knew the ESSER money was going to go away, but we did not know that the SHARs, that kind of caught us flat-footed across the state.

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We're building the payroll, this budget.

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We still have four months until we adopt a budget in August.

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I guess it's three months, three and a half months now.

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But we're still building it, but we're building it under the thing that we're probably going to have right around 88%.

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Nothing really can change in this much because we're so tight, if you will.

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There will be some ebbs and flows in it, and those percentages will change a little bit, but not much.

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Same with this, 67%.

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I promise you that's the highest in the state or one of the highest in the state at 67%.

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anything over 60 is exceptional we put our money in the classroom instructional

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aides teachers that's where we should and anything that supports students

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directly is in those two red things and we're that's not official yet for this

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24 25 budget but we're building it that way and we feel that will be very

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similar to that too again with that you've seen this before the

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administrative cost ratio in a district is the lowest in the state. There are

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actually a technicality there that there are two school districts with a lower

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but they are the ones that have virtual learning programs so they're little

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districts with 5,000 students but they also have 3,000 other students that are

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learning online and they're getting that funding and they're they don't there's

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no there's no real administrative expense that goes with that. But I had a

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nice little video but it's not going to show i'll figure that out later but we are the the lowest

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real administrative cost ratio in the state and there's software just above us i'll i'll just be

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honest uh we're gonna when the when this information comes out at the end of uh end of

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this year we're gonna we're gonna be just a little bit higher than sci-fi by they've dropped to like

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3.42 and we've gone up to like i mean we not drop we've dropped two but we're we're not going to

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drop as far as is them in in sci-fair so sci-fair and katie over the over my career in katie has

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always been the lowest uh administrative cost ratio around um i i think this is important in

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a growing district uh to look at and look at over the years and see that we've consistently spent 65

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67 percent in instruction and all of our functions with the exception of 51 during hurricane harvey

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You'll see a spike in that, but with the exception of that, we spend money, this board spends money consistently year after year in those various areas that we're required to break down those expenditures.

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So we're looking at new positions that are tied to the teacher salary schedule.

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Again, let's just call it mostly teachers, but anybody tied to that schedule is $8.3 million.

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You saw the numbers of those positions earlier.

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I think it was 131 of those, $8.3 million.

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And so there's the visual of that,

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same thing as the numbers.

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On the non-teacher pay group, these are all campus,

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all but 10 of those positions were campus related,

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7.1 million dollars on those positions in total.

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I've not shown, I'm sorry, on that previous slide,

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I should have said that there's nothing in there

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at this time for salary increases.

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This time, so there's a, that has been left blank.

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7.1 million dollars, and again,

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this is how that looks graphically, if you're a grapher.

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Other compensation, you're gonna see a big swing in this

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on project tutorials, detention, et cetera, at the bottom.

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You see it go from $5.7 million to $0.6 million.

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That's just strictly the way we're classifying it and budgeting it.

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We're not reducing tutorials and detention by that kind of money.

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We've just moved it differently.

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And I'll point out where you'll see the increase in a little bit.

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But we're just trying to be better, continuous improvement as we move forward

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and just trying to make a little change that we think will help us administratively and transparently.

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You can see the overtime and supplemental pay, there it is, that big increase from 9.9 to 14.4, those two wash out.

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That's what that slide I just showed you looks like graphically.

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Benefits, we're not increasing our health insurance at this point.

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It doesn't look like we're going to need to do it.

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But we kind of budgeted a little excess last year, okay?

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And so we don't need to do that again.

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There were some unknowns that were going on,

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and we feel comfortable that the 37.5, at least for right now,

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that may change between now and July.

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But right now we're pretty comfortable with that.

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Nothing else really changes in there.

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The big one is our health insurance.

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We have and continue to work on things like workers' compensation that's self-funded to try to squeeze those nickels and maybe use some fund balance of some of those funds.

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And we haven't gotten to that yet, but there may be some savings there.

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TRS stat minimum and TRS-9, we pay above the minimum teacher salary schedule.

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And so if the minimum teacher salary schedule is

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$48,000 and we pay a new teacher

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What 50 I'm sorry $60,000 we have to pay all of the TRS on that difference

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That whole difference we have to pay remember

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I said earlier the state will pay TRS on our behalf and they do without it because touching our cash

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Except for when we're above the stat minimum. We have to pay all of it. And so that's

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$17.6 million is what goes into that for paying above the salary, the minimum.

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And then the local retirement leave is the last one on there, and that has not changed.

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So you have a total payroll budget of $887 million.

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That's a $20 million increase.

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You can see that, again, there's the wash.

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There's that sixty point six million dollars that will not be an expense to the district will be revenue. No cash

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It's just a wash or a total of payroll budget about nine

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nine hundred sixty

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Three billion dollars a million excuse me

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I've taken some antibiotics and I took my last one today of 14 days and thank goodness, but it does have me a little loopy

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campus allocations you're looking at it looks like a decrease I promise you there's not a decrease

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we would not reduce budgets for those campuses we're just taking the way when those requests

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come in from the campuses we used to put it all in there but for like tutorials and detention and

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all that we're now moving those into non-allocations so we did not reduce those campus

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budget 7.9 million dollars is the allocation times the numbers dollar

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amounts they get per student period and that's been like that for years

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department allocations is where the big money is most of that is in utilities

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centralized things that we budget for like property insurance of eight million

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dollars our CAD fees or County Appraisal District fees run this district about six

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million dollars those are some of the big ones that I can think of utilities

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I've mentioned that, $30 million.

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So that's the big bulk of the department allocations.

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Also, the departments budget for things like tests and stuff, and they pay for it, and then they ship that out to the departments, to the campuses.

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We don't burden the campuses for having to budget for that yuck.

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So that's a graphic look at that.

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Bottom line, it shows us at about, I think I said $7.9 million.

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Hey, I helped it by $100,000, $7.8 million deficit that we're looking at.

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This would have been under normal circumstances, under normal expenses and stuff, probably about a $30 million, $32 million deficit.

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But we've worked on that.

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The administration has done and identified areas in which we could punt and not spend the money until next year with software licenses.

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We could reduce.

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We've looked at things like travel, you name it, sunset software, et cetera, et cetera.

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We've really unturned a lot of rocks to get that down to a very reasonable level at $7.8 million deficit.

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If we used all that, and by the way, that middle column is the deficit we're currently in.

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We're going to add to fund balance.

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It won't be much.

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Last year, we had a deficit.

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We added $26 million to fund balance.

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There was a couple of anomalies that helped us out on that, but we are going to add to

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fund balance I think this year.

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Not going to be nothing to write home about, if you will, but I think we will break even

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or add a little bit to fund balance.

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And then next year we're looking at a $7.8 million deficit.

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As everything stood right now, I'd feel pretty comfortable with that.

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When everything was said and done, we would be okay because we typically underspend.

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And the budget is developed as a backstop, if you will, and we never spend our entire budget.

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We always have vacancies because somebody quits today.

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We don't hire somebody to come in tomorrow.

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It takes a month, depending on the type of position it may be.

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It could be a couple of weeks.

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It could be a month.

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It could be six weeks before we can get that position filled.

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And when you have 12,000 employees, that is happening by the dozens all the time.

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That creates underspending.

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and none of our departments spend all of their budgets

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because they budget what they think they need,

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and if they don't need to spend it, they're not going to.

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But we don't take that money away historically

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because you didn't spend your money because what will happen?

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The next year they're going to spend all their budget.

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And so we typically not gone there,

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or at least in my 21 years in this district.

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So now there's us through May, and I'll be glad to answer any questions.

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Thank you very much.

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And the Finance Committee, I might add, had the opportunity to meet with Mr. Smith and Mr. Hines and Ms. Rios earlier this last week.

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Really appreciated the time that we could spend with them on the budget.

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That's Ms. Teeming, Ms. Champagne, and myself.

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And we're planning a follow-up meeting later this week as well.

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So I appreciate your time on those things. Mr. President the other questions any question rather. Mr. President Fox

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My goodness, there's a lot of stuff in all of your presentations. Thank you for it

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Nothing about staff raises. Why is there nothing allotted for staff raises?

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That's to be determined

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That what you saw there at seven point eight million dollar deficit does not include a staff raise

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surveys. One percent is about $7.3 million.

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Have you surveyed districts around what they're doing? Even with everyone in a deficit budget,

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and I understand South Air is 138 million deficit, and every district around us has

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way bigger deficits than we do. Is that an accurate statement?

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Very.

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Yes.

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Yes, so I appreciate the work that has happened we hear about so much of that of

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trimming and trimming and 7.8 is

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I'm in shock for that I

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We

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We also have fund balance. We added 26 million to fund balance last year and so

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You know seven million how much is one percent raise seven point three million seven point three

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So I hope, I mean, surely we're looking at an increase to staff.

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Is that accurate, Mr. Gorkorski?

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It's not in there now.

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It's to be determined.

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But, yeah, we'll be looking at that for sure.

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We've always had it at this point, something in there, kind of a placeholder.

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Why is there no placeholder?

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Nothing has been determined.

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We haven't discussed it.

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Nothing's been determined.

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But we know that that's something that the board needs to do.

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So our staff, at the end of a school year, this is the time in May,

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when they're looking at what am I going to do next, where am I going next,

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how am I going to pay my rent, and are they going to get a raise.

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So I know that they're very anxious to hear from us in May.

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So what are we thinking, 2% or 3%?

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Dr. Gorgorski, this is something I haven't seen before.

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do you have any input?

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The fact that the board is just looking at this for the first time,

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that's why there's nothing baked in here.

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And they're still working through some budget numbers.

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But, yeah, that's obviously something that the board needs to look at

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or further raises.

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I would like to know what possibilities we have because I have, you know,

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I'm prepared to make a suggestion, but I have a question for Dr. Gorgorski first.

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The actual compensation is not on the agenda.

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May I ask Dr. Gorgorski a question?

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I did.

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Okay.

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Thank you.

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The compensation is not on the agenda except for the budget presentation,

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which they are reporting to us.

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Go ahead, Dr. Gorgorski.

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Ms. Fox, what was your question exactly on that one?

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I'm sorry.

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Do we normally have a placeholder percentage in our budget at this point?

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In previous years as the superintendent, the board has always asked for a recommendation from the superintendent as we build the budget process.

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So in the past, yes, each May we have put a number in there of what we believe the budget could hold as a recommendation to the board.

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And so what do you think we could do?

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Uh, everything is a deficit in there at this point right now, but, uh, my recommendation, I think we could afford, um, a modest raise of 2%.

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I think that still puts us in a deficit.

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Um, any higher than 2% at this time would be maybe a little bit of a challenge and a stretch for us to try to close that next year.

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Um, what we have discussed in the past, and I'm not saying this is something the board has to do,

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But we've given raises before and if things changed in our outlook those of you have been on the board for a while

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No, we've come back to the board with recommendations throughout the year to take a look at different other options

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when better circumstances present themselves throughout the budget year, so

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Conservative number would be that 2% I apologize for interrupting. So knowing that the ledges the ledge is going to meet in January

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right and so I was at a

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an event last week, maybe 10 days ago, where one of our senators was there, and the senator

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said that one of the first things they want to look at when they get there, it was kind

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of a state of the state presentation with everything, and then the senator said, we've

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failed public education, and they need help.

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And so the first thing that they're going to look at is getting a quick release of money

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to school districts.

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It has to also pass the House, and that person couldn't speak to the House, but that is, they understand the dire straits we're in by not being able to meet our budgets.

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So knowing that that might happen in January or sometime January to May, the boards who have come before, we've been pouring into fund balance for years to prepare for such a time as this.

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when something happens that's out of our control there's an event or something i would

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i would be comfortable using fund balance if needed in order to give our hard-working staff

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a raise because their double-digit inflation's like everyone else and their dedication to making

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this district so successful they deserve a raise i'd i'd like to see two percent at minimum be in

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this budget we know we know that we are regardless we know that we are going to

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be using fund balance on any any salary because at best I mean we're looking at

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right now about a seven million dollar deficit so any obviously any salary

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increase will necessitate fund balance obviously and that's and we have the we

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have fund balance yeah so I just I just appreciate the conversation here so that

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our staff can know that we definitely it's not like oh it's blank does that mean i know they

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must be thinking does that mean there's no increase because we're at a deficit budget but

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i just want to say for for me and i i think you're saying the same thing mr perez that our staff does

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deserve a raise and we do have fund balance and they're i just want to give them confidence that

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that we will have a raise.

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Can you say that?

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Obviously, they deserve a raise.

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We're going to have a regular meeting on Monday where we can,

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this is a work study meeting, we're going to have another

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meeting with the financial committee this week,

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and we have a regular meeting where we actually would be

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looking at and approving, you know,

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whatever proposal we have forward.

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So you're going to add an agenda item about raises

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for next Monday is that what you're saying in all likelihood okay so any two

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board members can add an agenda item so I could request another board member to

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add to add that agenda item is that correct miss actually no you can't

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because because that's not our that's not a board operating procedures any two

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members can add an agenda not in a regular meeting not for a regular

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meeting mr. president I'm not arguing against putting it on the agenda I'm

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just saying which is the main statement you're making is not accurate so do we

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have a commitment from you because you're the one who can add an agenda

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item that you will add an agenda item about a race for our staff you know what

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week I appreciate your comments and we've got more work to do on this budget

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I appreciate your comments but I don't want to be I'm not saying I'm against it

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but I don't want to be like right now be put on the spot to commit to put it on the agenda for Monday.

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Does that answer your question?

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It certainly does.

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Mr. President, can I ask a question?

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Go ahead, Ms. Gatlin.

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Mr. Smith, I was looking through this, and can I get a number on what is the mandated amount that we have to hold in our fund balance?

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I know that right now, if I'm correct, it says it $463,853,293.

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So what is the amount that we have to hold in there, that we're mandated to hold in there?

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I think our fund balance is $326 million, which is about 34% of our annual expenditures.

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Our regulation, the TEA recommends three months, which is 25%.

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So we are above three months.

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Some rating agencies, some folks say four months.

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Schools first is 60 days, even though TA recommends three months.

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So we have a healthy fund balance.

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As you grow in expenditures, your fund balance should grow.

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And it has grown.

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So when you see a $26 million ad, the healthiness,

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and you've seen that graph before, you know, the percentage,

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if it stayed 32% between now and the end of my career,

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I'm extremely happy.

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That means we're not hoarding.

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This board's not hoarding money.

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We're letting it work for kids, but we're not spending more than we should.

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But it's in the 30%.

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It's about 34% now.

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I think even with that deficit, if it were to stay true in this year, which I don't think will be a deficit, we'll add a little bit of fund balance.

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And next year, we're still above 30%.

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Okay.

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25% is what we don't want to go up below.

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I'm sorry, what did you say?

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How many 25 percent percent okay, and I have a couple more questions

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on

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The federal aid I noticed that several times in here. Do you know the amount that we get in federal aid?

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I know that that's tied to grants

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But is there a set amount that we get every year or is that flex does that fluctuate based off of?

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Look it does fluctuate mostly it goes up because we're a growing district and so our entitlement funds are

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Our Title I funds, which are based on economically disadvantaged students, our special needs funds, which are based on our special needs students, those tend to grow every year.

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But it's not significant by all means.

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It's basically enough to keep up with inflation and organic growth.

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And with that organic growth comes the need for new positions.

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But it's well in excess of $100 million on all our grants.

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The biggest of those by far is the food child's nutrition grant for free and reduced lunch meals.

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That's the biggest.

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And I'm sorry I don't have that whole schedule with me right now.

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But about, what was it, $10 million is only the amount that goes in the general fund.

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Those entitlement grants, those federal grants, have to be spent on those specific students.

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I know you know that.

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Right.

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Right. Could we, when you get a chance, I know that we'll collect questions for you after this.

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Can we get that number on what we're looking at for the entitlement for us to see?

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And then I have one more.

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Now, Ms. Cowan, let me just say this.

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We don't know. Those amounts are coming out and being released by TEA now.

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Okay.

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And I don't think they've all been released.

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So we don't know for next year, but I can surely provide you a schedule of what we ended up getting in 22-23

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and what we have budget or what we think we're earning in 23, 24, but 24, 25, I don't know.

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Yeah, okay.

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And then I have one more question.

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I noticed on here when we were talking about deficit per student

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and you were referencing that Katie is at $105.72, correct?

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You did the math on that, didn't you?

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So my question is on that, if we did a 1%, 1.5%, 2%, 2.5% raise,

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raise. Do we have an idea of what that's going to raise? Is there any kind of fleshing out

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of what that looks like, of what that's going to look like per student when and if we do

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do those teacher raises?

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Just, I think it's about $70 per student, per 1%.

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Okay. So $70 per 1%, so it would go up based on that. Okay.

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So it would be about $210 at that point per student.

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That's $210 per student.

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Thank you, Mr. Smith.

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I appreciate it.

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Mr. President, may I?

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Sure, please.

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So first of all, thank you again for your presentation.

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I'm going to talk about a couple of things.

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One thing is I think it would be neat.

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I love your presentation with the sand.

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And, of course, I've seen that before.

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And I think it's good for the public and anybody else who hasn't seen it to see that.

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but also I think it would be good not you don't have to do it right away or

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anything but to see a comparison of the 2019 budget to the 2000 you know this

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year budget to show how much everything cost you know that we're basically we're

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getting the same amount of money per child I know we're getting more money

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because we have more children but how much everything else has gone up in

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in comparison to what they cost now.

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I think that would just be a good thing to see

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so that we could see how the inflation has affected our money.

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Ms. Champagne, in my next life,

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I want to work in a school district

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that keeps 40,000 students every year for 50 years

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because then those trends are very easy to see and show.

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But when you're growing 3,000 kids one year,

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1,500 kids one year, 3,000 kids,

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kids, you're adding staff.

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And so it's really hard to identify those ebbs and flows because essentially they're all increasing because we're getting so much larger.

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But it's really hard to identify in the rears that inflation and those kind of things if you're just looking at it from year to year because of our tremendous growth.

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But some things like curriculum and things like that, but I guess it's all in one pile and it's per child.

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And so you couldn't really pinpoint how much it was, how much it went out per child per se.

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So, I just add in there, Mr Smith, maybe you can recall because it escapes me at the time, but somebody did an analysis for the state of Texas on inflation from 2019 to today.

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And I remember the figure being that the basic allotment would needed to be increased by $1,000 to keep up with the inflation from 2019 to 2024.

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But it escapes my memory where that data came from.

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room. Anyway, I just thought that would be a nice something else good to see to reinforce the need

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for the increased state funding. Also, I want to support Mrs. Fox and what she was saying with our

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teachers now looking into the next year, and we want to definitely keep our teachers. I understand

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the problem that, you know, Mr. Perez may be talking about with trying to figure out everything,

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But normally we do have something now and I would be in the support of Mr. Perez.

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He's the president.

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He could add something to the agenda.

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Maybe he will and hopefully he will so that the teachers can have an idea of do they want

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to stay here or not and hopefully they do.

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Yeah.

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So I mean just to be clear, no one is not supporting teachers and not supporting a salary

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increase.

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Okay.

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I just want to make that clear.

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Let me ask you this, on the $4 billion that's being held by the state for education, do

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we know sort of the base case or anything about the most likely legislation in terms

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of like on a basic allotment basis?

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Is it likely to be $300 per student, $500?

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Do we have an idea of that?

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No, we don't have an idea.

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I know House Bill 100 that we thought was going to be the bill to carry it,

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and it only increased the basic allotment by $50.

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It doesn't sound like that much, and it's not,

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but they were targeting money elsewhere in that bill to go directly to teacher salaries,

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to go directly to other specific areas like security, et cetera.

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So it was additional money, and it was restoring other cuts like the fast growth allotment.

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You heard me say they released that data last week.

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We're the fastest growing district in the state of Texas, but they say we only want to spend

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300 million dollars a year on that allotment or a biennium on that allotment

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So once they exceed that just cap it if we got full access to the fast growth allotment

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You're the budget that you just saw would be 10 million dollars better or we'd be at a 3 million dollar surplus

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Just right there if that's cut would have been restored in House Bill 100

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But the House Bill run under it only delivered about 50 dollars

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dollars to the basic allotment, but it delivered significant dollars in the form of special

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ed funding, other things that would help our bottom line substantially.

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It was really disappointing to see that not survive or I would already be sitting down

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because this discussion would have been a lot happier.

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Okay.

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Thank you.

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Mr. President?

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Yes.

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Ms. Koehler?

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I have a few basic questions on just further clarification on what things stand for.

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On slide, I think it's your slide 27, but in my presentation it was slide 17.

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The 81.9% of budget spent in the classroom slide.

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Uh-huh.

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You have 14, 67% instructional and instructional related,

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and then 14.5% instructional and school leadership,

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then social-emotional student care.

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Can you talk to what that is, particularly social and emotional student care?

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That's TEA's definition of those functions, instructional, instruction-related, et cetera.

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And so that would include counselors probably on the social and emotional support care.

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It's probably counseling.

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Okay.

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Can I get an exact answer on that maybe later, follow-up?

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Okay.

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Christine, do you know what that is?

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Social and emotional student care.

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Again, I think that's just lifted right off of TES.

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Yeah, it's probably counselors, LSSP, social workers.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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I'd love to see that.

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Okay.

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All right.

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And then slide 34, 34, my 24.

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Did you reorder stuff or something?

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It's like 10.

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We have different slide numbers on our documents.

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What's it look like?

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But let's see, is it this one?

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Oh, the budget update, other compensation slide.

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Okay.

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I think it's your 34.

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You were speaking about the, it just jumped out to me, the projects, tutorials, detention, decreasing, you know, by 5 million.

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But you had mentioned it was reclassified.

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Could you explain that one more time?

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Please.

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The way it's labeled, as we stuck it in the package, we put it in a different package

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than it's been in before.

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So that total amount that we're spending is still going to be, it's actually going to

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be more because we have more per student.

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We just put it in a different bucket, I guess is a better word.

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And is that in overtime and supplemental pay, Ms. Bronson?

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That projects, tutorials, and detention?

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attention?

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We put that in there as what we thought would be more efficient as we move forward in years

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to come for presentation purposes like this, but you've got to get through that first deal

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and we're at that first change.

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But we are not reducing public projects,

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tutorials and detention.

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We are not reducing those for those campuses.

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Okay, and the increase in overtime supplemental pay,

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you had mentioned maybe that's where some of it went,

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or to be determined where that bucket is,

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is that what you're telling me?

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Yeah, and so that bucket is still being worked on

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because we're still in school.

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And what we do is we'll end up going,

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once we're through with all the instructional days,

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we'll take it and Esperanza will do a extreme deep dive into deep dive into

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the amount of substitutes we used and then try to project next year based on

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the number of staff and she'll do an educated guess moving forward but we

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don't know how this year is going to end up yet we have an idea and it's

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increasing the amount of our substituted budget is significantly more spending

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This year than the prior year and then yours

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I have a question about my slide 31

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It's the budget update non payroll slide

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And you spoke to the department allocations already, but I think I missed what you said or maybe you didn't address it the

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Non allocations. What does that include again? It's up by five million. Those are special projects

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There's your $5 million that we were just asked about.

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That's where it ended up being.

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Sorry, I was not thinking it through.

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When I see it, there it is.

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There's your $5 million.

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And the other things in that department are our print shop costs and special projects,

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testing that may come out every other year.

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And so anything that we want to go back and look at and analyze every year is in that.

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Okay.

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Thank you very much.

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Any other questions?

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I just have one last one. Since we were on the one slide, it's budget update other compensation, the one that Ms. Quisela was just referencing, budget tutorials detention.

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We're looking at the cell phone allowances and auto allowances. Am I reading those numbers right? Could you expound on that a little bit more?

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Okay, so with the cell phone allowances at $700,000, all administrators that are essentially

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responsible for their campus or their department or whatever are expected to be on duty 24

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hours a day.

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And so this board did that, oh, I'm going to guess about 10 years ago.

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Instead of paying reimbursements for cell phone bills or somebody saying, when we gave

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them the statement, we said, we expect you to be on call and ready when we need you.

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And that's essentially assistant principals, principals, myself, those type of positions throughout the district.

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It's a management position.

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When we want them, we want them there.

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And is that the same with the auto allowance?

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Auto allowance is given to some administrators that travel around the district a lot,

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so they don't have to spend their time doing, you know, I went from this campus to this campus, this campus to this campus,

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and it does bog down their administrative time.

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We just give them an allowance of

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To move around the district and they don't claim miles. Okay. Okay. Thank you

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Mr. President go ahead. Mr. Raymond. Mr. Smith. Everybody ignored something you said earlier

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You've got a magic bucket and if you were to write 61 60 on there that it would change I have a pen right here

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Let's hurry up and write on that you get this taken care of let's all do it and we can all sign a side of it

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Thank you so much.

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Just to reiterate something, the board is still doing its homework with Mr. Smith,

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and don't read anything into the fact that there was no number for salary increase in the presentation.

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Mr. President, may I ask a question?

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So the board is doing its homework, meaning the committee?

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Meaning the committee.

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All of us in this discussion and the committee, et cetera.

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Okay.

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Okay, because I only see the presentation that he presents, you know, a few days before we get here.

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And so I've done my homework.

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I know what the fund balance is.

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I know that we have one of the lowest deficits in the state.

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So I mean, I don't have any hesitation with putting at least a 2% salary increase in there.

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When was the last time your committee met with the finance department?

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Last week.

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Yes.

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And then you're going to meet with them also this week?

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Yes, do you expect to find anything different maybe?

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And so when did you meet with them before last week

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Okay

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What do you expect to change in the budget during the week I don't know

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How long was your first how long was your meeting last week about two hours, okay?

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Okay, I just don't understand the hesitation

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It's all right here.

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Thank you.

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And we have money in our fund balance.

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But you expect next week that we'll probably see the percentage.

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I appreciate your comments, your feedback.

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Okay.

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Thank you.

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We will now move on to 7.2, which is the SHAC Annual Report,

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School Health Advisory Council.

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The Annual Report, and our presenter is A.C. Grimmett,

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Curriculum Coordinator, Health and Physical Education.

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Welcome.

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Good evening, President Perez, members of the board, Superintendent Gagorski.

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The purpose of my presentation is to provide you with an annual report of our district's school health advisory council,

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otherwise known as SHAC, as required by Senate Bill 283.

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Our council is comprised of members representing each of the categories listed on the slide.

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any person who wishes to be a part of the council is invited to attend meeting

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agenda items and topics related to one of the eight focus areas for

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coordinated school health this is what we we focus on meeting notices are

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posted in advance on all campuses and sent out to all parents via the Katy

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court board our committee met twice in the fall and twice in the spring

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meetings were held at the Food and Nutrition Building. Our meeting dates are listed on this slide.

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All meetings are recorded and meeting minutes are posted on the KDSD Shack page in accordance with Senate Bill 1525.

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And so here is a summary of activities as listed on the slide.

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At our first meeting, members received information regarding the KEYS Mentor Program.

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Harris County Public Health provided information to the committee on its

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community health and wellness opportunities. Members also received

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information from Fort Bend County's health priorities as determined by their

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2022 community health assessment. At our next meeting the committee learned about

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kids teaching kids healthy lifestyles. Members were provided information

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regarding Narcan as part of Senate Bill 629 and the regulations for school

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clinics. In an effort to align with state health teaks for fifth grade, the

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committee also conducted a review of puberty resources for fifth grade

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students from Discovery Education, our district's approved resource. Members

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viewed the instructional videos for consideration to be made available for

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fifth grade students with opt-in parent permission for instruction.

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During the third meeting, members were provided information regarding enhanced safety measures

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taking place throughout the district and all campuses from our emergency management team.

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The Spring Branch Community Health Center also provided information regarding health

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services provided to members of our community.

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community. Community members reviewed and discussed interactive playground options

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provided by data projections which is designed to increase students levels of

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movement. At our final meeting members learned about the district school

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breakfast week activities. The Harris County Public Health also provided

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information to the committee on lead poisoning resources available to the

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the schools. Members provided feedback regarding future SHAC meetings and topics, and the committee

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reviewed and approved the annual report from which I am presenting to you tonight. So this concludes

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my annual report. I'm happy to answer any questions. I have a question, Mr. President.

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Ms. Calhoun. Thank you so much for your presentation. I appreciate it. I noticed on

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On slide seven, that there was the NORCAN

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that was implemented in 2023 for us to have on campus.

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Do we have a detailed recording of how many times

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that we have had to implement that NORCAN usage

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on campuses since then?

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I'm sure there is a report that can be given to you.

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This was just the report that was given

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to let us all know that this was the new state mandate

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and that all the clinics must have that

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in their possession in case a student does have some type of drug overdose

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okay do we have anyone in the room that has that yes we can get that information

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all our clinics house the Narcan as well as our police officers carry it at this

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point to my knowledge we have not administered it but we can get that

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information for you okay thank you I appreciate it

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mr. president mr. president okay so it's all in all clinics now all campus

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clinics have it great in addition to our police thank you mr. Grumman wanted to

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ask you if you know the spring branch Community Health Center that was

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referenced you came and presented to us I'm assuming that's a resource that is

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referred to why are we listening to spring branch Community Health Center

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they have a clinic actually here in Katy in addition to spring branch and so they

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They just provide services and tell us that these are things that are available to our school district and community.

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Okay.

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I didn't realize they're in Katy or they had a clinic in Katy.

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So is that something that's in our reference or referral guide or resource guide or in what capacity are we partnering with them?

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Well, it's just different groups that come in and present and just give us the information to say this is available to your community.

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Okay.

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So there's no agreement relationship.

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Okay.

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No formal.

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Okay, thank you.

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That's it then.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Mr. President.

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Ms. Jamie.

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Thank you for your presentation.

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I just wanted to see, I know you referenced the fifth grade program that y'all were looked

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at for puberty and all that.

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Yes, ma'am.

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Okay.

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So did you have any other lists of products or services that you guys have recommended

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as a committee?

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As far as that, no, ma'am.

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So just that's the only one?

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Because those were already curated resources that you all have already approved.

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Okay.

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So the one for fifth grade health is the only one that we were looking to replace or replenish today at this time?

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Yes.

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Okay.

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What's coming up next?

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Do you know?

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So that should take care of everything unless we go back to having the state provide us with new resources and so on.

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Okay.

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So we should be good for a while.

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Should be.

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Okay, thank you.

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My question relates, kind of bleeds into 8.1, which I know we're going to discuss next,

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and that's the approval of the representatives.

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When we say that we receive information and that we approve a video or we approve something,

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are we talking about what, because I see three groups in the next presentation, which is

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is the executive council, the members, and then also the advisory council.

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So in these meetings that you have throughout the year,

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what group are we referring to that's receiving information

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and then making decisions?

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Is it the advisory council?

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Is it SHAC members?

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Who's doing that?

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So going back to the coordinated school list, that was, I think, slide three,

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where I showed you the different groups.

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That's about the eight coordinated school health groups that we have.

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For instance, PE and health, that would be me.

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Food and nutrition, that would be like Donna Pittenger.

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School safety, that would be like a Ruben Martinez.

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So those areas are all covered in that coordinated school health.

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And so we have members from the community.

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We have parents that come in.

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But we have different people representing all of those eight coordinated school health groups.

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uh that we listed on on like slide three so those individuals are there listening to the information

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provided okay and say the the uh the people that are uh approving let's say a video who is that

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that would be all of those members that they're that are there in that uh that meeting with us

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and they is it do they do they vote or how does that so that's that's parent group we ask

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We ask their approval.

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And, yes, I do do votes with them to be able to see, you know,

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are we all in agreement with this?

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You see areas of concern.

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So that's part of the shack is to be able to vet and approve those types of things

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so that we know that we're doing the right thing for the Katy community.

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Okay.

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So since I've already kind of gone into 8.1 a little bit,

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I'll just kind of continue if that's okay.

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Okay, so when we appoint the five, we appoint five members, are we appointing them to what group?

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To be members, to be on the advisory council, what group is that?

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Those are just members that will be there to represent the school board.

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Okay, the SHAC members?

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Yes.

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Got it, okay.

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Thank you.

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And if no one has any questions on 7.2?

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Could I ask one question that your question made me think of?

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So could I understand what is it you're voting on every year?

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What is the body of work you're approving as a SHAC committee?

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Well, it's not necessarily voting on anything.

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You all are the ones who provide the votes for us.

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What we're doing is we're just looking at information that different groups come in and give to us.

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and then if there is some type of curriculum we always like to be able to

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put that forth to the committee to make sure everybody is still in agreement to

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what you all have have agreed and have approved already for us okay and how do

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we get that looped back if there's something that we should know well

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that's why I'm here giving a report so that you all understand that we've had a

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discussion about all these various topics that I've given to you so it's

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just annual feedback it's just an annual feedback so that you know these are the

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areas that go back to coordinate at school health that we are we are looking

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at throughout the school year and next year we'll have different topics that

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will will arise according to the different things from maybe what a state

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might mandate or or or so on okay thank you thank you should we move on to 8.1

8.1 Discuss and consider Board approval of the 2024- 2025 School Health Advisory Council (SHAC) representatives.

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And that's to discuss and consider board approval of the 2024-2025 SHAC representatives.

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Go ahead.

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I've also provided you with a list of the School Health Advisory Council SHAC membership.

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For your approval for the upcoming school year, the Board of Trustees shall appoint at least five members to the local School Health Advisory Council.

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A majority of the members must be persons who are parents of students enrolled in this

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district and who are not employed by the district.

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One of those members shall serve as a chair or co-chair of the council.

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And so I'm happy to answer any questions regarding that as well.

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So the list of advisory council which says it's a page and a quarter or so of like parent,

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community, etc.

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Does that include the ones that we're appointing?

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Yes, sir.

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That's all.

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That's all we're approving that list. So there's more than five got it. Okay

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any questions

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Thank you so much, thank you very much

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And now a point to to discuss it consider board approval of the May 2024 budget amendment

8.2 Discuss and consider Board approval of the May 2024 budget amendments.

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Esperanza Rios director of budget Treasury is our presenter

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Thank you for coming.

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Welcome.

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Good evening, Board President Perez, Board of Trustees, and Dr. Krakorski.

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Tonight we bring forth several budget amendments, which include $2,052,619 for the shortage in the instructional materials allotment,

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which was presented at the April 15th board meeting.

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an amendment for $357,420

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to cover the increase in auto liability,

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general liability,

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cybersecurity, police liability,

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and school board liability coverage

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for the district,

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which was presented at the March 18th board meeting

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and approved at the March 25th board meeting,

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an amendment in the amount of $265,223

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to cover the district cost of unfunded mandate

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House Bill 1416, tutorials for fifth and eighth grade students in reading and math.

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An $800,000 amendment is being presented to cover the invoices for the transportation of our homeless students,

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which come from across the Houston area,

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and an amendment for $1,500,000 to cover the TERS tax increment reinvestment zone payment

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to the Katy Development Authority due to the increase in property values within the TERS boundaries.

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Questions?

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I have a question, Mr. President.

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This may not be allowed.

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Excuse me.

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Can I continue?

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I've got to talk about the rest of the amendments that are on the meeting.

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Oh, I'm sorry.

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I apologize.

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I thought you were.

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I was just taking a breath.

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Sorry.

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We're also presenting a budget amendment which is a direct offset in revenue and expenditures

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in the amount of $64,796.

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This is directly related to the increase of student participation in the dual credit program.

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REVENUES ARE RECEIVED THROUGH INVOICING HCC,

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HOUSTON COMMUNITY COLLEGE, FOR CLASSES TAUGHT BY

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KDISD PERSONNEL.

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WE WILL ALSO BE ADJUSTING THE DISTRICT REVENUES.

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LOCAL TAXES ARE BEING REDUCED BY $25,397,906 BASED ON

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PROPERTY VALUES, FROZEN TAXES RELATED TO PAST

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LEGISLATION, WHICH HAS CAUSED A REDUCTION IN

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COLLECTIONS.

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STATE REVENUES ARE BEING INCREASED BY $24,469,072

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due to updated student demographic counts and a somewhat inverse loss of local tax revenue.

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The district will also be recognizing an increase in interest revenue in the amount of $5 million.

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We also bring forth several budget amendments, which are direct functional offsets.

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These functional offsets include staff development, instructional supplies,

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subscription-based information technology arrangements, which are SPIDAs,

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services provided to KDISD students through the shared service agreement for the regional day

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school program for the deaf, extra duty pay, campus improvements, campus start of and end of

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year expenditures, and improvements to the asset warehouse due to the one-to-one initiative.

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The approval of these amendments will result in a decrease of $404,096 to the general operating

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fund balance. We're also presenting a budget amendment for the food service fund, which is a

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direct functional offset related to kitchen equipment refurbishments this

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does not have an impact to the to the food service fund balance so the net is

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that we're just using four hundred four thousand fund balance after all the

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amendments yes thank you any questions a question but it's probably for dr.

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Gorka when we're looking at the transportation cost for the districts

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homeless student population are we still picking up students it's eight hundred thousand dollars

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all over the houston area is that still part of the law i thought they were going to change that

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and make it who reimburses it and uh thank you miss fox yeah that's a part of what's called the

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mckinney-vento that's a federal program that says uh for homeless students they can continue their

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education in their district where they began that education so yes we do pick up students

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students all over the Houston area. I can't remember off the top of my head the number of

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students, but I know Mr. Vierling and Mr. Landis are also available to help us a little bit more.

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Ted, can you tell us how many numbers? Yes, sir. Just to give you some round numbers. So we had

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about 430 kiddos at some point during the year that were transported to and from KDISD. That

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number varies because some kiddos remain homeless for a while, some are only for a few weeks,

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And so that number fluctuates so it's not 431 kids all at the same time

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There's about 140 kiddos that are in Katy ISD that we're able to move around Katy ISD

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From campus to home using bus service because we can incorporate them on routes. Those are the most efficient

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Obviously, we've already got buses out running. We don't have to make a special run for those kids

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There's about that same number that we go and pick up from other districts and bring to Katy ISD

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In other words, their campus of origin started in Katy ISD.

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So they may go to Sundown, but we drive to someplace in Cyphair or Houston or something,

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pick those kiddos up and bring them to Sundown Elementary or any of those schools.

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And then there's almost the same number that we go and we send a car from Katy ISD to another district.

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They may live in the Katy zone, but they go to a school in Cyphair or Spring Branch.

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So just some heavy hitters on there.

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Sealy, Cyphair, Spring Branch, Aleaf, HISD.

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We've had kids go as far as Galena Park, Pasadena from time to time.

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It is a challenge for us.

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Obviously, we don't have to talk about bus driver shortages.

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In theory, we would love to use our own vehicles, but we wouldn't want to take a bus driver in a bus that could transport 100 kids every day to take one or two kids.

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out of the district so it's a real challenge for us so we utilize car service it that service um

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and the use of that service has grown exponentially i would say just in the last three years

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from a 500 000 budget three years ago to what we're asking for right now i think this gets us

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to like 1.9 million dollars thank you is there any way to challenge that

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Are we reimbursed in any way by the?

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Yes, ma'am.

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Mr. Smith said we get, what, $118,000 from the federal government for McKinney-Vento?

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We get $118,000.

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Yes, ma'am.

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And we spend.

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That's another one of those Mr. Redman needs to ride on the bucket.

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Yeah, yeah.

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With a big arrow.

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Yeah, okay.

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And so just I wanted to let the board know, because we did talk about this in our finance committee.

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I think you'll be pleased to know that we did discuss maybe ways to trim that down or,

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you know, of course, within the law, but we're looking at ways, creative things we can do.

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And this is a federal, excuse me, may I?

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Go ahead, Ms. Fox.

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So this is a federal law.

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Is there any, has there been movement?

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I don't even know who to look, I'm going to look at you, Mr. President.

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Do you know if there's been any movement at all in that?

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I know it probably was put into place because someone had that kind of experience,

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but any movement in that law that makes it that we don't have to go to Pasadena?

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I don't know.

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I just know that students move all the time,

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and it's always traumatic for a student to move, but they're very resilient.

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We rezone kids and move kids and divorce happens.

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all things happen and students are resilient.

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I don't know if transporting them for hours a day is,

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it's not our rule, but how do we help the federal government

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know that that's maybe not in the best interest of students?

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Yeah, there's some rules tied to that, Mrs. Fox.

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McKinney-Vento's been around for as long as I can remember.

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It was something we were doing back when I was on a campus

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as assistant principal.

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So we're going back 10, 15, 20 years ago,

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we were doing this as well with students.

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There are some very specific legal rules to McKinney-Vento.

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I'd have to have Mr. Graham speak to some of those

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about how you decide what's in the best interest.

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But there are rules tied to that from the federal government.

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It sounds like the committee is looking into what you can and cannot do.

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And so thank you very much.

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Mr. President, I just had one other thing I wanted to bring before the board.

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in our committee we talked about or if you look at amendment 25 that's TERS

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revenue and I want to just let the board know and the public know as well that

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that's going to end I don't remember the year but very soon there will no there

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will be no TERS expenditures in the 24-25 budget our last year this is the

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last year this is our so just be aware that we're going to be that's been a a blessing to our

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district and it's on its way out so just wanted everyone to have that information i think that's

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important for everybody to know mr prince well it's my understanding there's there's talk about

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maybe being able to extend that or have an amendment to it or an addendum if you will i

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I don't know.

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I heard someone in City of Katy.

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The City of Katy can extend it, but that's for city business.

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Unfortunately, there's no way that we can participate in that.

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The original bonds that built the Merrill Center is what those were for.

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Those bonds will be paid off next year.

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So we are collecting those revenues now.

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We'll hold them until March of next year, and then we'll send the City of Katy.

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all those tax proceeds and then they pay the debt payment the last one and they send us the remaining difference back and

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That's what goes into the turd. That's how the tours

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Your tourist fund has been developed and it has about a nine million dollar balance

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There's no way to add on to it if they I've looked into it. No, no, man

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Mr. President so Thank You miss teeny for the financial committee little updates there. I appreciate that. Mr. Verlaine

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I wanted to know the number of you touched on it the number of homeless kids that we're dealing with

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were roughly

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800 or so this year

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No, ma'am 400 and about 430. Oh, I thought you said then plus 130

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It's all part of that 430. Okay, so 430 this year

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Can you tell me years past what you've dealt with and back to you?

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I don't have those numbers off top my head, but we can we can I search those. Can I please get that? Okay?

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Thank you. Maybe back four years

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Roughly. Thank you. Any other questions? I have a question.

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Sorry, I had to take a bathroom break, so if I missed it, then just let me know.

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I'm looking on the student demographic counts. When we're looking at slide two,

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there is a line item that says TRUUP, GOF, state funding based on student demographic

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counts. Can you expound on what that means as far as like demographic, what

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What kind of demographic are we looking at?

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Talking about this different, oh.

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Yeah, so when we did the budget a year ago,

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we do estimates of what we know,

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what our student counts are gonna be

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and what they're gonna look like.

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How many free and reduced lunch students

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that we're gonna have, dyslexia,

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bilinguals, special needs, et cetera.

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And what this is is we're just going

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and we're taking a look at where we were

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through the first four, six weeks and saying,

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okay this is where we are we think it's going to help and so we've we're

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recognizing those different demographics and we'll do that again between now and

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August probably August because we won't get we won't know exactly how these

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demographics that we get funded on our until July because until the last day of

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school then a lot of work has to be done by our teams department and then we'll

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get some reports at the latter part of June that we can start looking at and

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And then we take next year's numbers and say, based on all these trends of all these student demographics, this is our best guess.

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But between now and this time next year, we're not going to be perfect.

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And so we'll adjust those periodically.

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Does that make sense?

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Yes, sir.

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I have another question on that.

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When we're talking about trends and we're talking about student counts demographically,

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are we, do we have any way of measuring or coming to an understanding of how many illegal immigrant children that we have within our district that we are educating?

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Are we even allowed to ask the question?

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Do we have any way of tracking that just to see what that looks like?

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I do not know.

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I do not know that answer.

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Does anybody know that answer?

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There are certain rules to educating all students in the state of Texas.

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And regardless of somebody's immigration status, districts require to enroll somebody.

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And it would be unlawful to ask their immigration status.

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So we don't track that.

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It's not part of any PEMS reporting for the state.

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I don't have any data to be able to tell you if a student who's enrolled with us is in the country legally or illegally.

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It was my understanding that it was illegal to ask.

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so i wanted to ensure that i was understanding that correctly that we cannot ask a student or

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a family what their immigration status is illegal or legal however we do live in south texas we are

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all aware of the border crisis we have had 10 million illegals come across our border in the

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last three years since joe biden has taken office this isn't whether i like him or whether i don't

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This is just a fact that we are having to deal with that crisis in our districts.

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And so I think when we're looking at the budget that we're looking at and we're squeezed in the way that we're squeezed,

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I feel like it's relevant to start asking these questions to push on our legislators.

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When we go forward in 2025 and we start talking about where our needs are, this is a need.

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And I understand that there are tragic circumstances that are beyond a child control

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Completely understand that and my heart breaks for what we are seeing

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however, as a

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financial holder of taxpayer money

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I think that we have to be judicious in that and

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At least start asking the question and start pushing on our lawmakers to allow us freedom to understand

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what we're actually paying for and if anything have money coming back towards

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us because if we can't know who's illegal or illegal then we also can't be

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given money to offset that cost correct if we don't know we don't know we don't

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know where we're losing money or gaining money in any way shape or form so I

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would just like this board when we go or when we talk to our legislators as we

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We talk about school funding and public funding.

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That also probably needs to be on our minds as we go forward.

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Again, not to ostracize anyone, not to demonize anyone,

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but we do have a fiduciary duty to our taxpayers that are funding this.

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And so I think that that would probably behoove us,

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and I just wanted to ask the question so that I had a for sure understanding of what we're looking at.

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So that's what I needed to know.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Any other questions or comments?

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Thank you, Ms. Rios.

8.3 Discuss and consider Board Approval of the March 2024 Financial Reports.

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We now move on to 8.3, which is to discuss and consider board approval of the March 2024 financial reports.

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Our presenter is Mr. Smith.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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Go ahead.

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Mr. Hines' daughter is getting recognized for some awards at Tompkins High School tonight, and I told him to get out of here that I could handle it.

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Fantastic.

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I won't do as good a job as him, but I can handle it, I think.

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You've got the March expenses, the income statement through March 31st, 2024.

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It shows about 57% cost in payroll.

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About 58.5% is where we would normally be.

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So you're seeing about 1% underspending.

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and so if you take that times $900 million,

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you're looking at about $9 million under spending.

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That's how I kind of feel comfortable about that.

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We won't, because there's under spending happening in payroll.

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Now, with that said, there's a lot of payroll that happens in the summertime.

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Substitute costs go down, but in the summertime,

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we have a million dollars of summer school, okay?

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So you can't really just rely on that math,

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but that kind of sets the pace.

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You also see in other departments some other spending, underspending, but we do do a lot of maintenance in getting those campuses cleaned up and ready to move on the next year.

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And so maintenance expenses, especially when those children are no longer on the campus, that's when a lot of that work gets done.

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So a lot of those expenses will happen.

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I'm looking at the functions.

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There's nothing really alarming in the functions.

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You see a couple that are over what the 58% would be.

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and for through March but that's normal because those expenses happening

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happen only in the school year for example transportation we're only

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transporting kids during the school year so during June July and half of August

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the transportation expenses go almost to nothing so we catch back up on those and

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also you have as part of these financial reports our capital projects status

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status report through March 31st of 2024 for both for all of our outstanding bond authorizations,

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which are currently three. And then you have a copy of our E-rates, our TERS waterfall. That's

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what Ms. Teamey mentioned earlier. That's that $7.9 million that has grown over time to $7.9

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million of that TERS money coming back to the district after the KDAs made the debt payment

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at $7.9 million, and then miscellaneous capital projects,

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and our tax report are all included for you,

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and I'd be glad to answer any questions you may have.

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Just a quick question.

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Earlier you said that you're pretty comfortable that at the end of the day

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we would end the year break-even, maybe a little positive.

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That's because of that 1% under spending you're talking about.

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Yes, sir.

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Okay.

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Yes, sir.

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Just that math that I did there, about 1%, 900 million is 9 million under spending.

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You add that to our current deficit, we're going to break even.

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Assuming our revenue works out the way we think between now and the end of the year

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and there's no, like, what would have happened if that rain and everything had been 45, 50 miles this way

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and a little bit further south and we were dealing with the flooding expenses and stuff, that could happen.

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And who knows what that will do to the, something like that could happen.

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We'll let you off the hook if it rings like that.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Any questions?

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Mr. President?

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Mr. President?

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Yeah, Ms. Ebbing?

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I'm sorry.

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I'm just curious.

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When is the Proposition B technology, is that going to be this summer?

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That's the bulk of it.

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Now we've already started that.

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We've got, as I understood today, a warehouse full of the technology equipment.

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We're gearing up for the one-to-one initiative.

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in order to make that happen there's going to be a lot of assets moving

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around the district in fact I think tonight you're gonna hear from his

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castman there's some we're actually putting a spot to house the people that

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keep up with the fixed assets we have a department that keeps up with 200,000

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assets that run around this district or that are in this district and we're

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putting them right there by those by that technology so they can because

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they're responsible to keep up with it and they're gonna make sure that I think

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you heard me call it fort knox earlier that whatever goes in and out that door is accounted

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for because uh the public has given us a lot of money for these chromebooks and we want to make

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sure that uh that we're we know where they all are all the time all right thanks um mr president

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um just wanted to bring something else to the board if you look on the um let's see the

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the first page that you'll see a jump in the other operating expenses, $6,400.

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That was property insurance that we paid this month.

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So it jumped from like 48% to 78%.

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That's why, right, Laura?

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Yes, exactly.

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And then y'all would be happy to know that we're starting to make a dent in the kitchen remodels as well.

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So that's function $6,600.

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That's why you see a jump there too.

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So those are funds we needed to spend.

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So according to the federal government.

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So thank you very much for that.

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Thank you, Mr. Smith.

Items 8.4 & 8.5

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We're moving on now to 8.4.

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And Dr. Gwynn Coffey, Assistant Superintendent for Special Education, is our presenter.

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Discuss and consider board approval of the interlocal agreement with Harris County,

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Department of Education for specialized services,

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including occupational, physical, and music therapy services,

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and academic behavioral school, Wes,

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and you're also our presenter for the next item, 8.5.

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Yes.

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Welcome.

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Thank you so much.

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Good evening, President Perez, board members, Dr. Grugorski.

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I am here to answer any questions you may have about both 8.4 and 8.5

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as they go hand-in-hand.

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They're both related to the interlocal agreements, as you said,

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with Harris County Department of Ed.

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One does oversee ABS West, which stands for Academic Behavior School West.

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There's also an East in case you're curious. We do contract with them through

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this local agreement, interlocal agreement, to provide specialized

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services for students who require that in order to meet the free and

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appropriate public education requirements under the IDEA. The other is

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the contract through Harris County Department of Ed, which is where we do, we

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do not hire occupational therapists, physical therapists, and music therapists

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in-house. We contract with them due to the difficulty in hiring those physicians. It's

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more economical for us and more efficient. And so these two go together. We bring them

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forward every year for approval. And I'm happy to answer any questions that you may have.

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Thank you. Any questions? Mr. President? Ms. Champagne? Thank you, Dr. Kovac. Have we been

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using music therapy in the past? Yes, ma'am. We do. That's awesome. Because I know they have that

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I saw that at TEAR.

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I saw a program about that, and I know that that makes a big difference

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or can make a big difference for people.

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And so how long, I mean, you don't have to know this,

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but how long have we been doing it?

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Have we been doing it for a while?

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As long as I've been around, so yes, for quite some time.

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And we do it in the school wherever the child is?

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We do.

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There's an assessment, and if it's determined that the student requires that

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in order to make progress within their education,

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then we provide that service.

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So do you think that we, I mean that's so special, do you think that a lot of districts

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do that or are we a special district that does that?

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Under the IDEA, I would imagine that multiple districts, assuming that they have students

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in their district that require that service.

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It's a required thing.

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All right, thank you so much.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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Any other questions?

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Yes.

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Ms. Grisella?

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Hi, Gwen.

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for the 8.4 I was curious why they were separated I guess it's because it's too

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so what is for ABS West and one is for the OTP TMT to do work here in our

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district okay okay and I'm sorry let me clarify ABS West is a separate location

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students do leave to go there yes yes I look that up thank you and obviously

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regardless of the county the student lives in their service correct by this

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Harris County entity correct yes ma'am they are yeah good question yes okay and

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And then there was on 8.4, the agreement, I looked at it,

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and there was a spot there to fill out federal, state, or local funds for this, for 8.4.

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It wasn't specified, and I was curious about that.

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I mean, is that federal, state, or local?

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Where's the funding coming from?

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Right now, we use 192 for that expenditure, so I believe that would be our local fund.

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Okay. I'd like to avoid federal, so that's why I'm asking. Is that correct?

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Okay.

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For our HCDE contract, it's paid through 192.

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Yes. It's a special project, so it's in those allocated funds, and we look at it extensively every year, and every year we have to contract with Harris County.

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Perfect. Thank you.

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Any other questions?

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I have some questions. I actually have some questions on that agreement as well.

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I read through it, and as I was going through what we've been sent over,

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we have six students that will be participating in the summer months, correct?

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Yes, extended school year.

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And that's a total of $142,000, correct?

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That's for the entire year.

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That's for the entire year, okay.

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And then there is an additional amount, I'm sorry, it's $6,000 in tuition.

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Is that per student or is that for all six students for the extended school year services?

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It's per student.

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Okay.

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And then how many of those six students that are taking that do you anticipate needing

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that extended school year service?

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Will that be all six of them that will need?

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So the ARD committee would need to look at their regression and recoupment data, which

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is something we collect following every break.

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We look to see whether or not students are able to recoup skills following a break.

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and then we analyze that throughout the course of the year.

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Students who do not indicate they're able to recoup those skills

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then are eligible to attend for ESY.

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Generally speaking, students who are sent to ABS West to receive FAPE

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very often do require ESY services,

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but their ARD committees would need to make that determination

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towards the end of that school year.

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Okay, and then I have some questions about the ARD committee as well.

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So, but first, is that already allocated?

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That would not be already allocated on this invoice,

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the 142,000 at the $6,000 tuition per student.

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If all six of them went,

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that would not be indicated on that 142,000.

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Correct.

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They would send us a corrected invoice

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for the number of students who do require it.

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At the end of July?

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Yes.

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Okay.

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And then on the ARD committee,

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I noticed on here that the HDDE,

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they can be included into the ARD,

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but they're a non-consensus member.

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Correct.

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So the consensus member is based on the school district

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where the student remains in residence

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and our students may be served at HCDE,

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but they remain in residence in KDISD membership.

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Okay.

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But it also says that they have a designated liaison.

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They do, yes.

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Okay, who is that designated liaison?

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Is that someone from the district,

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or is that someone from HCDE?

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It's from the district.

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So we have, well, it's really both, if I'm being honest.

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The individuals who provide the services directly at HCDE

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do attend the ARD.

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So they will have basically representatives that mirror ours.

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And generally speaking, we also have an administrator and a representative from the campus and often a representative from the district who do attend those ARDs because it's a highly specialized analysis.

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Okay.

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And includes a transition program that plans for students to reenter KDISD in a more comprehensive nature.

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Right.

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As soon as possible.

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Okay.

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Is that a one-to-one liaison?

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So one liaison per student?

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Or is that how many students do they take on?

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No, it's not truly that type of a liaison.

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It's just a connection from the ABS West Campus to the Katy ISD home campus.

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Okay, understood.

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And then I wanted to go back to the financial agreement here.

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It says that if you pay by credit card,

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that there is a surcharge and processing fee onto that payment.

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Do we pay by credit card?

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Not to my knowledge, no.

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Okay.

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Okay. And then I wanted to know as well, there was a termination that if they terminate their services,

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that they are under no obligation to refund the prepaid fees.

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Do we prepay or do we pay like half up front and then half at the end?

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Do you know how that works?

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We pay as we're billed. It's in the rears. We don't prepay.

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So there's no chance of us losing money if they, for whatever reason, fold or I don't know,

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something happens and then they cancel they terminate that contract and we wouldn't be

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losing money would be my concern that 100 i would think no okay i think the answer is no okay um and

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then how many students are actively using um i'm sorry how many oh nope that's 8.5 well i guess

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you're here um but we already said that on the state and federal dollars that we do that from

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a local fund um the program itself is at 3.3 million is there a 3.3 million in here i have

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that written down that's correct for the otp tmt uh ftes and that comes directly out of our local

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funds not the federal funds correct okay that's what i needed to know thank you i appreciate you

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absolutely thank you so much mr president i have a question just to be clear dr coffee these

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services provided to students which are sound wonderful and intensive and very

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helpful all of those are provided from the school district for free to the

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families that is correct thank you thank you very much now we move on to a point

8.6 Discuss and consider Board approval of the 2024- 2025 UIL Student Accident Insurance proposal.

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six

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Lance Nauman director of risk management discuss and consider board approval of

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the 2024-2025 UIL Student Accident Insurance Proposal. Welcome. Good evening,

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President Perez, Dr. Gorky, and Board of Trustees. The University

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Interscholastic League accident policy is paid for by the district and provides

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supplemental medical benefits for accidents incurred by students who

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who participate in UIL activities such as athletics, fun arts, and career and technology

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education.

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The plan is secondary to any other insurance participants may have and includes a supplemental

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catastrophic policy.

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State laws allow school districts to purchase this type of policy, but it is not necessary.

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This insurance also provides voluntary accident insurance for students, which includes at

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school or 24-hour coverage with or without dental coverage. Those who elect

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this coverage pay the associated premium directly to the carrier. A unique

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feature of this program is the concussion management program for UIL and

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CTE participants. This program will be conducted virtually with parents and

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guardians having the ability to consult with doctors about concussion related

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related symptoms for up to five visits for free.

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The renewal premium as proposed by the brokerage store for $2425 is $340,579,

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with $322,650 in associated premiums toward UIL coverage

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and $17,929 applied toward the catastrophic coverage.

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The UIL Accident Policy provides for student growth and success by providing district paid

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insurance for student activities while participating in those activities.

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For students without insurance, the plan acts as primary.

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The authority to purchase this is granted through FFD legal.

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Thank you.

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Questions?

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Mr. President, I have- Ms. Champaign?

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Thank you for the presentation.

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So a student who is in a sport or their parents can opt to have this additional insurance.

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Is that right?

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There are two programs here.

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The district paid, which will cover a student athlete.

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But if the parent primarily would be in your elementary age group or non-participating secondary students,

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can participate by paying premium directly to the carrier.

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So there's two distinct options there.

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And we have historically seen very low participation in the voluntary program.

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I would think so.

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But would this cover them?

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So like if they got hurt in a football game or something,

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something not if they're at home playing around?

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Correct.

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Any UIL activity.

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A few years back, the coverage was expanding for not only athletics,

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athletics, but it included cheerleading, fine arts, our CTE, our FFA kids, and things of

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that nature.

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If they're competing or practicing in a UIL event, then coverage would be enforced.

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Ms. Cuzela?

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Sorry, but it's only secondary to what the Family Equality Cup has.

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Right.

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Perhaps not even needed.

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Well, if a parent has insurance, health insurance, that insurance is primary.

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So anything that that policy does not cover, there's a schedule of benefits that are available to that student who is injured.

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If the student who is injured does not have primary health insurance, this provides primary coverage on a schedule of benefits.

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And it's a schedule of benefits.

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It's not a comprehensive health plan that one might think of.

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Ms. Exedale.

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A real-life example of that would be my son Hayden, when he was in high school,

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tore his rotator cuff, and in February we had it fixed.

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The trainers throughout our district, for example, in this case, gave that form.

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They filled it out.

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I had to fill it out, and we filled it out at the time of injury.

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And then when we went in and he got the surgery to repair his rotator cuff, I didn't have to pay.

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I had insurance through the district, but I didn't have to pay any because this insurance kind of kicked in and paid my deductibles and stuff.

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It was the secondary, so it covered at least those that are on the schedule of benefits that he mentioned.

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If I had no insurance, it would have at least repaired his rotator cuff.

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It may have cost me some money, but it would have been catastrophic for me financially by having to have that surgery done.

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There would be some coverage there.

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And the 24-hour coverage, I always bought for my child.

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In one year, he was in the fifth grade.

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He slipped on the floor, knocked his front teeth out.

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And we had dental insurance, but this also, we had this, and that kicked in and made it a non-event, at least for me financially.

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For him, it's still an event.

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But financially, it was a very good investment for me to get that 24-hour coverage.

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And in the case of his rotator cuff, it was good for me, especially if I had not had insurance.

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Is there a way I could get the number of claims that are – I've asked this last year.

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How often is this –

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used by our taxpayers and families and students in UIL activities?

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Through the first three quarters of this policy period, we've had 157 claims.

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Okay.

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What activities do you know?

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I'm not privy to that because of HIPAA.

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We don't manage the frequency and severity of that that's passed on to the carrier.

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I'm trying to evaluate the district paying secondary insurance for a family.

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It's quite nice.

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It's an expense.

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Thank you.

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Let me elaborate just a little bit.

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In those 157 claims, the charges were $2.9 million.

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Because of the network discount that we were able to apply through our network, we knocked

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it down to $1.8 million.

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It's pending through March.

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March, there is another $275,000 worth of claims to be yet to be paid and adjudicated

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through this program.

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Mr. 2.9 million of claims?

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Mr. That were billed, that were invoiced, and then through the network discounts,

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that totaled $1.8 million.

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Mr. That's huge.

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That's amazing.

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That's a lot.

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Mr. Health care is expensive.

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Mr. As we've all seen before and that I presented to you.

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So it's a good benefit for students who participate in UIL.

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We don't have any exposure other than to pay the premiums.

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We don't have any exposure.

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Correct.

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We are not self-insured on this program.

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We merely act as a conveyance to the carrier, file claims on behalf of the parent.

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We work real closely with athletics fine arts to try to get those claims paid expeditiously as possible

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Is it similar to secondary insurance a family could purchase themselves?

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Similar to yes

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But again, it's a schedule of benefits. It's it's not I

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Can go to a network of physicians have continued care

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an MRI, let's just say an MRI may pay a certain benefit and that benefit is paid accordingly.

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And it has to be as a result of an injury, not because somebody wakes up with the sniffles.

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It has to have a documented injury by the trainer or by the school faculty.

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But it is an expense and a nice thing to provide but that we do not have to provide.

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That is correct.

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Thank you.

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Any other questions? Thank you very much. Looks like your time's up because Ms.

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Kastman is standing up and walking toward the front. Let me move out of the way right

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quick. Thank you. Next we'll go on to 8.7 and that's to discuss and consider board

8.7 Discuss and consider Board approval of a contract for the renovation to Bear Creek Elementary School.

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approval of a contract for the renovation to Bear Creek Elementary

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Elementary School, President Lisa Kastman, Executive Director of Facilities, Planning

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and Construction. Welcome.

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Good evening. I'm President Perez, Trustees and Dr. Gagorski. The first item is for the

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Bear Creek renovation. The construction manager delivery method was used and Stuart Builders

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ranked first overall as you can see the attachment. They're also completing renovations at the

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sister school, Hutzel, right now. So it'll be a nice transition going from one school

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to the other.

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Any questions?

8.8 Discuss and consider Board approval of the design associated with the classroom addition to Pattison Elementary School.

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You want to go on to the next one then?

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We're going to do the design presentation for Pattison.

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Go ahead.

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Go ahead.

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The design presentation we have with us,

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Ms. Barker, the principal, she's gonna say a few words,

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and that followed by Brad Ewing with the LK Architects.

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Good evening, we're very appreciative of the board

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for their support of Paterson.

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We do agree and feel like this renovation

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will be very helpful to us

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and be able to provide services for our students,

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classrooms for our students is a better word,

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classrooms for our students

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that all of our children, grade-level children,

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will be able to be under one roof.

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And we're very excited about the opportunity.

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Thank you for your support.

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Good evening Board President Perez, the Board members, and Superintendent Gagorski. Tonight

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we're here to present the design development for Pattison Elementary School and seeking your

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approval at the end conclusion of this presentation. For the agenda for tonight we're going to go over

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quickly the schedule for this project and look at some of the details that we've been discussing

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and design. Currently we're looking to go out to bid in July and that would mean

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board approval in September 16th and project completion the summer of 2025.

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For this project the main purpose is to add classrooms and you can see in this

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current existing site plan they currently have 10 portables and so like

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principal Debbie Barker said we want to try to get all the kids under one roof

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and so our team went to work analyzing potential locations for in addition to

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to this campus.

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And so our main focus was to minimize

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the impact of construction on all the students, teachers,

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and also minimize the impact of the utilities that

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serve the site.

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So one of those is try not to disturb where the portables are

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currently.

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Looking at the proposed addition location,

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This would currently go where there is a covered play area.

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So right out of that, the first thing we would do, as you can see, number one, would be provide an area for a new covered play area right next to the addition.

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This would help serve the dismissal of the students and also provide the play area that they're used to having there at the campus.

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doing so. We would also, we know that there's a current concern with some ponding right there

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just south of the playground. So adding this new covered play area, we would be regrading the site

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and being able to mitigate that water where it would be served best. Also,

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we also looked at the roof of the current building and the location where we're proposing

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The water disposing works really great also with the water mitigation leading into the north there where the parking lot is located.

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You can see here from this aerial view the current building there on the right, that roof slopes towards where the addition goes,

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but our new addition, that roof slopes towards where the current parking and bus drop off is, where the water is taken off site.

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And you can see that new covered play area that's just to the right to the to the left of the new addition.

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And so that would help serve pickup and drop off at that site.

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So looking at the current floor plan, the biggest part about this is trying to plug this addition in where this would be part of the main building.

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It would work with the circulation of the main building and get all of the classrooms

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connected to the main building.

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And so all that's left in portables is just some resource classrooms and a couple of GT

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rooms.

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And so as we look at the floor plan, you can see we're able to add ten classrooms.

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All of them have natural light.

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The center core area serves restrooms and we have lots of resource flexible space.

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You can see there in the center there's some testing ESOL that also has some operable wall

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between them so that could be used as one big collaborative space opening up to the

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main corridors.

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And then at the end you have some special ed space that opens up could be three separate

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rooms.

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Also, the dual-loaded corridor helps with students traveling to the new play area and

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out.

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And so that circulation works well with that main circulation corridor that's connected

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to the main building on the left.

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All these classrooms meet the standards of KDISD and are identical to all the other rooms

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that are in the campus.

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They're actually a little bit larger.

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Some of the interior views, you can see the typical classroom with the window.

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You have a teaching wall and some built-ins and a window into the corridor.

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Here's a perspective view that you can see.

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There's a typical arrangement that you see in all the schools you have here.

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Carpet, teaching wall.

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looking at that center core area we have a flexible space here that can be used by the

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fourth grade that has a operable wall in the middle and then two we're calling genius bars

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right where the students can utilize that that space outside of the classroom that students

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could use here's a view of that space with lots of storage for the student for the teachers to

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utilize and flexible furniture. At this time if there's any questions we'd like

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to take any questions from y'all. Thank you very much. By the way I had a

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couple of kids at Patterson in 91, 92, 93 time frame. Do they still have the jump

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rope club? Mr. President, Ms. Champagne. So I'm so excited for

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for Pattison.

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Pattison's actually sort of near my area.

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My kids didn't go there, but I don't live far from there.

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I'm so happy.

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So one of the main concerns, well the only concern I've ever heard about Pattison throughout

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the years, even before I was on the board, was the number of portables that were there.

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So I'm really excited that this is finally going to happen for Pattison to get rid of

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those portables.

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schools, but this may not be a question that you can answer, but what is the population

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of Paterson?

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Mr. Right at 1,300.

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Ms. Okay.

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So, this is the other part of that concern.

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It's like the concern part two is that there's a lot of students, obviously, at Paterson,

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and then down the road there are not that many students at Nottingham so I

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know this so I just want to hear it from the official people that the number that

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you see as enrollment at a school isn't necessarily the total number of the

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students that are there so there are other programs that are at Nottingham I

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I just thought this would be a good time for people to hear this

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because I get this question quite a lot.

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There's other programs at Nottingham.

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Is that right, Dr. Kruporsky?

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Do you know?

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There's other programs.

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Even though you may see a number like 600 and something or whatever at Nottingham,

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that's not really the total number of children that are there.

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That's correct, Ms. Champaign.

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A lot of times people look at the enrolled students.

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Those are the students that attend from that boundary.

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But a lot of our elementary schools have different specialized programs.

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in them i don't recall which ones are at nottingham right now but due to the specialized

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programs that those enrollments go up so that takes into account needed space at those buildings

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and student counts in addition to what the regular enrollment would be so it's it's appropriate to

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keep the large number at pattison and not rezone them or whatever to nottingham because there's

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other things that Nottingham is accomplishing at their building other

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than the reported children that are involved there. I agree. I agree. So anyway,

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but I mean I'm really excited about this and I'm so happy that finally we can get

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rid of some of those portables and those kids or I'm sure the staff is very

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excited and maybe we can get a tour. Maybe we can get a tour. I want to I want

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I don't want to see it.

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I have a question.

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Ms. Calhoun?

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So I'm looking at the slide that you showed

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of the classroom windows and classroom walls,

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and I just wanted to confirm that this will be

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in accordance with our safety standards,

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so that we're not gonna have to go back

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and retroactively do anything or anything like that.

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We've made sure that everything is in compliance, correct?

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Okay.

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Okay.

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Mr. President.

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Thank you.

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Go ahead, Ms. Fox.

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I agree with Ms. Champagne.

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I'm very excited about this.

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But I have concerns, and this is,

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we added 10 classrooms to Nottingham Country many years ago,

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and then the population aged out,

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and they didn't sell their homes because they love Katie,

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and then population fell. Do we have, I understand that there have been some

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additions to, of, additions of apartments which have caused some of this growth. Is

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that true? So those would tend to keep children in them but what do you think

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about the PASA projections of how long this school will be full? Yes ma'am so

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So PASA has, they project out 10 years.

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So in 2033, they've got them at $1,359, which they're at $1,257 right now.

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They're about 70 shy of what the projection was for this current school year.

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So looking at what PASA is saying, we feel pretty confident that with a design capacity of $1,350 or whatever it is,

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that we'll be okay there at Patterson for the next 10 years.

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Okay, so my next questions are wonderful.

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You have 10 new classrooms, but what,

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you don't get more gym, you don't get more cafeteria.

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Do you have, it's really Mrs. Barker, I'm trying to see her.

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Do you have room, Mrs. Barker, for donuts with dad

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and muffins with mom and where does everybody park?

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And when you, do you have room for families

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to come have lunch with their children?

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Or are you, do 10 classrooms take care of your needs?

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Yes, they do.

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we've been able to make it work we've worked very closely with the district

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had some modifications that we made some of our parents are eating on the stage

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from time to time I mean our students are eating on the stage and those kinds

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of things we've been able to make it work beautifully and through the support

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of the district we've really been fine I think with the play area that will be

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very helpful to us for our PE department and so we're very appreciative of that

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that fact to be able to provide those continued services as well.

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Patterson has always been that shining star that everyone talks about,

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and it's been consistently amazing all the time.

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And as it's grown, I know there have been some growing pains there.

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I like to see that you're not losing any real play space, green space.

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You still have playground.

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And I love the rendition with that covered play area,

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which is so important in this heat and in the rain and you know indoor business

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no we can go outside because we have covered area I'm very excited about it

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you know when they thought that Stone Lodge was going to be a junior high we

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had more land back then and so that has served us well with what has transpired

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in the last few years so that's fruition and worked in our favor that's great I

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know parking is always a problem when you have a school built inside a

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neighborhood but that's only on like nights when you're having the school fair or whatever but

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okay great thank you for the presentation i'm excited for you too we're very excited thank you

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any other questions yes mr president i would like to add um i just want to give a little plug to

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mrs barker she got the principal of the year for elementary since you're here i thought we'd do

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that because you're not always here and i just wanted to give that and also i've enjoyed that

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that outside area because when my children were young we did soccer there so it's a great community

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service to have that and especially in the neighborhood for the children to be able to

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play over there and all the sports sporting events and everything that are there

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Right, thank you.

8.9 Discuss and consider Board approval of a contract for the renovations to the Franz Road Storage Building.

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And the next item is 8.9, and this is the approval of a contract for the renovations

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to the France Roads Storage Building, and Ms. Kastman is presenting.

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Yes, this is Mr. Smith alluded to earlier with the asset management.

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This is going to fight offices in a mezzanine space. They can take care of all the equipment

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Stewart bill is ranked first overall and it's going to be beneficial because they'll be working right next door at Hutzel Elementary

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questions

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President I had a question on the

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ranking sheet

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You've ranked them by cost but then the other selection criteria there was no detail there is that because of the

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proposal or why weren't we seeing that? I apologize for that it was just an

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oversight but we can fill in the other columns if you'd like. Oh okay, okay, yeah.

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It says the percentage and the breakdown but not the output. Apologize for that.

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Okay, all right, thank you. I had a question on the, I guess it's the sheet

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that says estimated project cost and the estimated project cost down at the

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bottom is a million four four nine eight hundred yes so that's i think i saw a comment um that

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that's the number that was in the bond yeah there was an overall number to cover growth and plumbing

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and mechanical upgrades at that whole area up there the support service complex so we're uh

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just taking a portion of that now to take care of this building and we're bringing work future later

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on for food service in some other areas over there right so i guess my question is did we have a

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number in the bond for a million four four nine eight hundred for this particular project yeah we

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had about eleven thousand seven hundred fifty square feet about four hundred dollars a square

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foot because scope wasn't totally defined yet so it gave us some flexibility okay so that this is

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it wasn't like they just matched up perfectly with no like here's the bond number and here's the

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bid number no no there was no number to separate out because like i said the bond project overall

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budget was like 6.4 million so we're just taking a portion of that.

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Okay. Mr. President?

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One more thing. And then the 60,000, there's a 60,000 discount that we're not seeing in here, right?

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Did I read something that there was a $60,000 discount?

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Yeah, we had negotiated with the contractor.

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Okay. That's what I mean.

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That's correct, yes. Because they won and then we negotiated a lower price.

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Yes. Yeah, because according to law, we can negotiate with the overall first ranked overall.

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Okay. And then if that negotiations don't go well, then we go to the second bidder.

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So we were able to work in agreement with the first, the overall first ranked.

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Got it. Okay. Thank you. Ms. Fox. Mr. President, so what are we doing

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at this building? I mean, I see that it's project cost and things, but

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build out, are we improving it? What's going on? We're building out,

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we're putting in some offices and workspace to help with the Chromebook distribution.

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I remember when we built this building. It was a big deal, right? Just a place to have storage for all the things that were in this building. Pretty cool.

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Any other questions?

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I'm sorry, I didn't... it was just natural.

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Natural response to me saying, I remember when we built this building.

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sorry I forgot about the microphone any other questions thank you thank you so

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much now we move on to 8.10 and that is Brian Schuss welcome discuss and

8.10 Discuss and consider future Board approval of the 2024 - 2025 Texas Teacher Evaluation and Support System (T-TESS) Second Appraisers.

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consider future board approval of the 2024 2025 Texas teacher evaluation

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evaluation support system, otherwise known as T-Test Second Appraisers.

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Yes, sir.

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This is a very routine item that we're required to bring to the board.

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Really all it does, it designates all campus administrators as possible T-Test Second Appraisers

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if needed, and it's something that we're required to bring to the board.

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So it's just a perfunctory thing we're doing?

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Yeah, absolutely.

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We're required to do it.

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questions

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Thank you now we want to 811

8.11 Discuss and consider future Board approval of additional department staffing needs to address growth for the 2024 - 2025 school year.

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Discuss consider future board approval of additional department staffing needs to address growth for the 2024 2025 school year

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Yes comments so this is also something that we bring to the board

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Each year in May to address district growth as you can see in your agenda packet

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we are requesting 10 additional positions this year.

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I would like to say that's a pretty drastic reduction

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than what we have had in the past.

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Last year, I believe we had 59 positions that we requested.

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It was going to be an expense to the general fund of about $3 million.

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So this year we've got 10 positions.

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Two of those are grant funded,

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and so the expense to the general fund is going to be $335,000.

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Six of the positions are level III security guards.

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I've got a couple of human resources positions, a Title I coordinator for grant compliance,

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and a procurement specialist for food service.

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It's actually going to be in our finance department and assist our finance department with procurement

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specifically to food service items.

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And I'll take any questions.

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Mr. Is the food service budget item, does that come from food service as opposed to

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the general fund?

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Mr. Yes, sir.

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Mr. Okay.

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Mr. As well as the Title I grant position.

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Those are both grant funds.

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Mr. So for the general fund it's $335?

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Mr. Yes, sir.

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Questions? Mr. President? Mr. Shash, can you help us explain the reasoning behind the addition of the human resources? I've just heard from multiple teachers that they don't understand why we're losing ICs, but we're adding that in that area, and I think it would be, I'd like for them to know, and I'd like to know.

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Absolutely, it's a good question.

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And these two positions are actually probably a couple of years overdue.

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And I can say I certainly would not have requested them if they weren't absolutely needed.

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The compensation specialist, that position is going to, within the compensation department,

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is mainly going to be responsible for the assistance of employee service records.

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For years in the district, we have had one person responsible for all employee service

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records.

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And we tried to help out last year by absorbing a position and adding some clerical assistance.

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but it just wasn't enough.

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And to have one person solely responsible

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for service records for all of our employees

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is a monumental task.

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And so that's the compensation specialist.

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The leave specialist, leave specialists,

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lot of requests, family medical leave, ADA accommodations.

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They work with workman's compensation,

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hundreds and hundreds of requests for leave.

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And we have three folks doing that right now.

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And just to be honest, they're underwater.

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water and you know they even came to me they've been voicing their concerns to

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the employee relations director and came to me a few months ago too and said you

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know Brian we're really concerned that the level of service that the district

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expects us to perform for our employees and the level of service that we expect

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to perform ourselves we're getting to point to a point where we're unable to

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do that and you know especially we're talking about family medical leave I

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I mean, that can be a time-consuming process because you've got folks that maybe are dealing with a very serious situation in their life.

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And so we want to be able to devote all the time to those employees and make sure that we help them through their time of need.

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So are you trying to say that these two added positions will then assist teachers in the things that they need from the district?

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Absolutely.

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Absolutely.

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Okay.

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And on the security, the level three security guard, are they just to make sure that we

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are always able to staff each campus?

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Yes, sir.

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So two of these positions are going to be couriers.

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Currently we have police officers that are couriers and basically pick up funds from

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the campuses.

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And they are now going to be doing police work and we're going to have level three guards,

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two level three guards as couriers.

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The other four are level three guards that are going to be kind of floaters or have the ability, if somebody is out, whether it's a police officer that is out or another level three guard is out, able to have coverage throughout the district.

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Sir?

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Mr. President?

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Chair Bain?

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May I please follow up with that with about the level three security?

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Are they armed?

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Yes.

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And I apologize when I started.

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I don't think I said President Perez, members of the board.

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Dr. Korkorsky, so I apologize if I didn't address you all properly.

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We're going to eject you.

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You're fine.

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Thank you.

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Any other questions?

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Could you speak to the procurement special?

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Excuse me, Mr. President.

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Yeah, actually, if Mr. Smith wants to talk about that a little bit,

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that's going to assist our finance department with procurement

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specifically to food service operations.

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Yes.

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You know, the food service fund is relatively big, and it's federal.

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So even though local funds participate in that,

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since we do get federal government funds or funds from the federal government excuse me um they're

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federal and so we have to comply with edgar and the federal purchasing laws and there's quite

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extensive compared to local law believe it or not they're more difficult and so uh like mr

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schuss the purchasing department is stretched thin and uh we we need an extra person to do it and we

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We can do it through the Child Nutrition Fund.

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That fund has plenty of fund balance.

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It's been making money, although it won't make money once COVID gets well behind our rearview mirror,

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but there's plenty of money in there to access that,

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and we think it will provide better service to our food service department

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and then allow our other staff members to provide better service district-wide with their procurement requirements.

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Excuse me.

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Thank you.

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So the 335 out of the general fund is security guards?

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And the two HR positions?

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And the two HR positions?

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Yes, ma'am.

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Okay.

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So the delta in trying to, you're saying there's more to manage with leave and employee service records, I think you said.

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You're saying there's a delta addition of employees to now then manage, and so we need two more positions?

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Well, over time.

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Why the delta?

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Yeah, over time.

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And you know we've known this was coming

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But we've tried to you know see if there's other things that we can do if we can change processes

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Like I said even with the service record

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Employee we absorbed a position last year and gave some clerical assistance, but that's still

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That still wasn't wasn't enough assistance. You're saying it's a problem. That's been lagging. Yes, I guess that you know I mean we're very

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careful about

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recommending new positions and it's just gotten to the point when and and dr.

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Gorski can tell you I will wait until the last minute to request them but we

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just we need them so thank you thank you any other question thank you very much

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thank you we have the information on the donated items the board does and madam

9. Information Items

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secretary do we have any uh requests from the board for information all right this is what i've

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i think we have uh mrs cuzella would like the number

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no no that's right number of homeless kids in the last four years

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right yeah each year and then she also wants to know what is in the social

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emotional student care description okay and then she also wants the ranking

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sheets the completed ranking sheets for the Franz Road storage and I have mrs.

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Calhoun wants the shack the Narcan request like how many have had to use

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that or whatever how many schools okay and then I had asked but if we can't do

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it's okay but some type of whatever that it was that you found dr. Krakowski that

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showed the different you know how much money we would need to catch up you saw

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I saw that somewhere and I would love to see that.

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What was that?

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I'm sorry.

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Well, it was a comparison between 2019 and now.

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Oh, got it.

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The cost?

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Mm-hmm.

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Mm-hmm.

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Because I think that would be good to see.

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Is there anything else?

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Mr. President, I would like to make a notation.

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I noticed on the donations, I was going through and I was looking at it and at the end, it's

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Page four of five department donations.

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937, nutrition and food services.

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I just wanted to, I guess, recognize Katie Angels donated cash for lunch balances at McElwain Elementary,

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Pato High School, and Stockdick Junior High of a total of over $3,000 to those lunch balances at those schools.

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And I think that that is commendable.

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That is what our community is supposed to do.

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to go hand in hand with one another, to take care of each other in those ways.

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And I just appreciate Katie Angels for coming out and for doing that.

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And I'm sure they didn't want the recognition, but I'm giving it to them anyway

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because that is a beautiful representation of what our community is supposed to do for one another.

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So thank you.

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Thank you.

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Mr. President.

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Ms. Fox.

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I don't know if this is for Mrs. Champagne, but I requested the data from the teacher survey

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from last time and do we know when that's going to be available we haven't

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gotten it yet we have it but it's being put together when we'll when can we

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expect it being put together this week okay okay a regular board meeting is

10. Future Meetings

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next Monday and that is on May the 13th there will be a regular board meeting on

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on Monday, May 13th.

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There being no further business for the board,

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this meeting is adjourned.

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The time is 8.27.

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Thank you.

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