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Katy ISD Work Study Meeting, March 18, 2019

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The Board will now reconvene in open meeting. Today is Monday, March 18, 2019, and the time is 6.33 p.m.

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Mr. Grigorski, will you verify that we are in compliance with the provisions of the Texas Open Meetings Act regarding the notice of this meeting?

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Madam President, I confirm we are in compliance with the provisions of the Texas Open Meeting Act in regards to this meeting tonight.

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On behalf of my colleagues, I welcome everyone to this evening's Board Work Study Meeting.

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To prepare for this meeting, each Board Member received the agenda and documentation for

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this meeting on Friday, March 8, 2019, and have had nine days to study its contents and

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seek clarification from Mr. Grigorski.

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This evening, the items posted on the agenda will be presented to the Board by staff, administration,

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and the Superintendent.

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The Board will have the opportunity to ask questions and discuss agenda items during

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tonight's meeting.

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The Board met earlier this evening in closed meeting.

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Any action arising from discussion in a closed meeting must be taken in a subsequent open meeting agenda item 3.1

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I'm president. Mr. Lacey. I move that the Board of Trustees approves the personnel report is recommended by superintendent Gorgerski in a closed meeting I

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Have a motion by mr. Lacey a second by miss Fox that the Board of Trustees approves the personnel report as recommended by the superintendent

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Gorgerski in closed meeting. Is there any discussion?

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Hearing none, we'll proceed to vote. All those in favor, please raise your right hand and say aye. Aye. All those opposed?

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Motion passes. I would like to note that Ms. Gessoff is out tonight.

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Agenda item 4.1. Mr. Smith.

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Yes.

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Superintendent Gagorski and trustees,

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I want to give you the March 2019-2020 budget update,

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and there's two phases to this, one that I'm very confident in

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and am extremely confident in,

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and then there's a part that I'll move to that has some uncharted territory

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there towards the end and you'll see what that is but as you know we've we've covered two formally

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two months in the budget process tonight we're looking at the budget projections the initial

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revenue and expenditure projections associated with our budget we've talked about it before the

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staffing plan makes a large portion of our budget you're going to hear that tonight and I want the

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public and the trustees to know that the administration has looked at those expenditures

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and has worked those through. I would be confident under current law with these

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numbers and feel confident with where we are so far in the

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development of the budget processes. We're far from done but when we do the

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staffing plan that will be a large portion that will be with us.

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So just as a reminder some assumptions and I'm going to highlight some of the

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things that I'm speaking to like state funding. The numbers that you'll see here

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that make up our revenue are current law, and that's really important right now, is the current

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law that we've been working under. That current law yields a basic allotment of $5,140. I'll speak

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to that a little bit later in my presentation. And an Austin yield of currently $106.28. Those

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Those are on the four golden pennies or our six golden pennies.

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And under current law, it's indexed to move up to $126.88 because Austin ISD's yield or wealth is increasing.

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You've seen me show the picture of Austin and the skyline from 10 years earlier and what it looks like now.

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But that's increasing.

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and that $20.60 increase does generate some pretty good dollars to our bottom line under current law.

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Oops, going the wrong way.

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In percentage increase in our enrollment, we're looking at about 4.2% or about 3,300 children.

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We hit over 81,700, and I think it was six today.

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We, Mr. Cruz and I have a fun hamburger bet whether we'll hit 81,000 or not this semester,

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but we do expect to hit it next year or sometime during the summer and are looking at a 4.2%

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increase. Percentage of growth in our taxable values, we're still looking at 6%. Again,

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our average growth over the last several years has been over 9. We think that 2.6% was a result

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of Harvey and we're anticipating that that will be behind us because the

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growth is still continuing to grow. If you drive around any of the major

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thoroughfares you see businesses going up and houses going up at the pace

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they've all they have been for for many years now. So teacher growth, the staffing

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plan that you'll see tonight, this is high level they'll get a little bit more

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granular in it when we go over that item tonight, but that shows a

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320 increase in teachers are people tied to the teacher salary schedule. Now

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that's a whole junior high more than we opened this last year. Last year we

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opened an elementary school and only one grade level at Pato High School so we

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had 162 people there. This year we have higher growth. We're budgeting a percent

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of 1.2 percent more in growth and we're opening a junior high in addition to

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to another elementary school, and yet the final grade level at Pato High School.

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And non-teacher growth, 239 people, again, that's more.

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That has to do with opening those campuses.

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And again, and I didn't say this on teacher growth,

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there are also some people with special education that we'll hear from tonight

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as well that we're having to hire because of some actions at the TEA and

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some of the things that we're having to do for that.

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that. I've left salary increases off. Who knows what's going to happen. I'll talk about that in the part of this conversation I'm not very comfortable with at this point. So tax revenue, you can see that 6% increase would increase our tax revenue from the left-hand column over to the right-hand column. State funding actually goes up. The biggest part of what makes that go up, because we're going to remember that doesn't increase as fast as it should

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because the state takes away based on our property value growth from the prior year,

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but we do see an increase this year. You've seen that go down before.

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That increases because we're only on the coattails of a 2.6 percent gain in property value from the prior year plus

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that increase in the Austin yield or the golden pennies

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generates some pretty good revenue.

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TRS contributions, that's in blue because

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there'll be an offsetting expenditure associated with that. When you see that expenditure,

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it'll be blue because there's a revenue associated with it. Those are essentially a wash to the bottom line. And federal revenue is really nothing

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when it comes to the percentage of our budget, less than 2%.

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So you've seen this before,

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88% of our of our

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expenditures are in salary and benefits. The staffing plan is a big portion of that that y'all see tonight.

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88% is we are labor-intensive when it comes to supervising children

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children in this business. Obviously the vast majority of those are folks that work in the

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classroom there on the left. We are above 65% instructional expenditures. We are on

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the far high end when it comes to the amount of monies that we spend in our classrooms.

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We put, and it's on our website, we have a trend that goes back 10 years on the website

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that shows audited numbers and numbers that TEA posts as well that we're pumping in the dollars

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and instruction at consistent rate of around 65%. There are little variations in other areas of the

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budget that go annual, but for the most part, they do track tremendously when it comes to year over

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year where we put our money. It's very consistent, so the budget process has not changed at this

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point. So we're looking at new facilities, we've talked about that, we're looking at

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district-wide growth, we're looking at special ed growth, and we'll talk about

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that a little later in the meeting, and then the ancillary positions on those

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campuses. So new positions that would be about twice what we spent last year are

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about 18.4 million dollars that are tied to the teacher salary schedule. Again,

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I've left salary increases blank for now. New position in the non-teachers

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schedule is about 5.2 million dollars. Again salary increases are blank at this

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point in time. I'll speak about other compensation real quick. For the last 20

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years Career Ladder has been here. That's still hanging in there. I keep thinking

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we'll have some folks retire and that'll go away or at least it'll be so small

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it'll be less than 0.1. I wanted to show it anymore but it's still there. Substitute

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teachers is a large expense when it comes to to that. We spend over eight

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million dollars a year making sure that when a substitute teacher is out that we

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have a substitute in that classroom. Overtime and supplemental pay you do see

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an increase again that's organic growth but that that and and is things like

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tutorials obviously overtime any additional assignments that somebody's

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doing that they get paid for and that's relatively consistent. Health insurance

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anytime you get growing employees you're going to grow in our health insurance so

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So we look at an increase in that.

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That's on the contribution that the district currently is making.

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There's no reduction to that contribution or addition at this point.

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I know there's some talk, although not much lately, at the state level about putting more into for school districts to fund insurance.

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I will say this, and I'll say this again and again.

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We do have better insurance than some of our other districts that are tied to TRS active care.

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Obviously, depending on the health of the individual or the location, that can be argued,

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but we do not, we have been able to shelter our staff by and large that participate in

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our plan from insurance premiums.

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We have a healthy insurance fund at this point in time and we are far better off in that,

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managing that.

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Mr. Nauman does a great job managing that and we're far better off, our employees are,

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than we would be if we were in TRS active care.

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TRS 1.5% local contribution that was added in 2015 and I'm going to elaborate that here on a few

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minutes when I go over my little story that I'm going to tell but that's new as of 2015 but that's

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about a 6.1 million dollar year increase or a year contribution that funds TRS insurance for

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retirees. Okay? And I think that's a wonderful thing and ISDs across the

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state in 2015 had to start adding that expense to the budget and that's

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great that we take care of the big folks that retired in our business but that

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six million dollars is not going to one child in Katy ISD or it's going to

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retirees and their insurance programs and again I'm just wanting to make

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in that point I think it's great that we've taken care of them but that was

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was an expense to our bottom line and continues to be. TRS stat minimum, there's some legislation

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that could go, that could take effect. I'll talk about that in a few minutes. This is because we

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pay above the teacher salary schedule. So there's a published minimum teacher salary schedule,

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and because we pay more than that, we contribute about $7.5 million a year. That comes out of our

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cash. There's no offset to it. It's our cash, about $7.5 million a year that goes toward TRS

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on behalf because we pay better than the state average minimum salary schedule.

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I'll talk about that in a minute too. So about 63 million dollars in total

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benefits. Total payroll budget of 623 million dollars. Again that's all that

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all of this is offset by the state. There's straight revenues that cover

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this that's in blue there. So a total payroll budget of about 660 let's just

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just call it 662 million dollars at this point. Campus allocations, you'll see that that only

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went from 7.4 to 7.8. That's organic growth. That's the amount of monies that we give,

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and it's the same amount per elementary school district-wide and the same amount

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per junior high and high school, etc. But because we had growth, that increases,

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but that's not a very big increase. The big budgets are in the department allocations.

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The majority of that is in things like utilities, all the district utilities, things like textbooks, testing, all of that, and licenses for software, et cetera.

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That would all be in the department allocations that we spend for the campuses.

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And so total nonpayroll cost of about $90 million at this point.

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So that's where I'm comfortable.

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And you didn't see a bottom line.

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I think the bottom line if we could just have to pass a budget right now would would not would be okay

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It would probably be something that wouldn't make me go do backflips over

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But but it would be something that I could live with okay

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And I don't think it would be a deficit if we could pass it based on current law

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86 legislators happening now. They've been working since January

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And I want to tell a little story, and this is I mentioned this earlier and step back and go to

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just four years ago and

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And four years ago, the percentage of education that KDISD was funding was 53%.

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The state was picking up 47%.

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So let's just say it's close to 50-50.

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Just that many years ago, we were 47-53, 53 KDISD,

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or our taxpayers were paying towards the cost of increasing,

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educating the children of this district.

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We hoped in that session we'd get some monies.

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They did increase the basic allotment from $5,040 per student to $5,140 per student.

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We were excited about that for a while because that was going to fund a large portion

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or the lion's share portion of our 3% salary increase that we were able to deliver that year.

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But then they added the TRS care, let's just call it a payroll tax.

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I didn't mean to put that in writing, but it's a TRS care, the additional $6 million that I pointed out earlier.

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That kind of took away from it because that 3% pay raise cost us about $12 million,

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and half of it went away with this increase to our expenditure.

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So that's what came out of the 2015 legislative session.

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So in May of 2016, we had hoped that we would find some relief that the lawsuit

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that the public ISDs had filed against the state of Texas. Their ruling came

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back from the Supreme Court in May that was not in ISD favor. It was in and they

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said that the it was not a state income, state income, a state property tax but

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they did acknowledge as the court that the funding system was out of date and

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needed updates, was complicated, it was band-aid after band-aid. I could go on

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and on because they they were somebody with a dictionary was writing that or a very high

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uh intellect because they were using a lot of big words that i didn't understand look them up

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but we're nonetheless they were uh they acknowledged there needed to be updates

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in the 2000 legislative session we we hoped that that would happen nothing nothing happened we got

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the Austin yield which is already in statute and that increased during that

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session $21 from $77.53 to $99.41 and it was in the House Appropriations

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Bill and the Senate Appropriations Bill and that's what funded the 3% pay raise

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that y'all were able to deliver was they increase in the Austin yield had

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happened legislative sessions many ago tying that yield to it but that's what

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funded the 3% pay increase by and large. That's all we got. They couldn't agree on anything else.

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So we're hoping on the 1986 legislative session that kicked off a couple of months ago.

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I don't know where we are. We talked, I think one of the representatives made styrofoam cups that

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that said public education is finance reform, the time is now.

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Put them in the coffee areas throughout the capitol

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so everybody carried around a book says the time is now.

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I do think there's a commitment to fund the public education.

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But to what level is still unknown.

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And how it affects KDISD is still unknown.

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So let's talk about the House bill and the Senate bill

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appropriations.

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Those have both been approved.

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approved. They're not in law yet, but both the House and the Senate have those in their

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budget. Those have the increase in the Austin yield going from $106 to $126. I think it's

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a $20.60 increase. That would fund a cost of living pay increase by and large, about

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$12 million. It costs about $13 million, $14 million to do a 3% pay increase. That would

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would fund it. It's in current law now. It's in the appropriations bills. But they're wanting to do more. And that's good. That's good for the children of the state. So Senate Bill 3, the third item on the list, has been passed out of the Senate Committee. And I think the full Senate has passed this at this point. And I think it's great. It's $5,000 per teacher. And they added a librarian, librarians to it. $5,000.

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My wife would benefit from that.

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It's a great thing for the Smith family.

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Not sure it's a great thing for all of public ed because, as I understand it,

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it wasn't in the basic allotment.

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It was more of the form of a grant.

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It didn't include other people that are tied to the teacher's salary schedule

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that, by law, nurses and counselors are part of it.

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And counselors are pretty big and pretty important, as are nurses.

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But they got left out of it.

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so the local districts would have to hire or pick up the expense of the

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counselors and nurses. It's not guaranteed to be around in a couple of

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years so when it goes away could we afford to sustain a pay raise of that

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kind? Don't know. Under current law? No. But there were some other things

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about that I could speak about that on. I think it's great and I love the fact

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that they're wanting to give the people that are pulling the lion's share of

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what we're doing and as educators there are other educators that row a boat

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towards education such as custodians bus drivers campus front office staff

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principals there there there's there was no monies in that to pass on a pay

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increase for those folks in that as well and and again we want to treat our

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teachers because they're in the front lines and they're what we're all about

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out, okay? But there are other people that are important. They're just not teachers,

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and they're important too. House Bill 3 and Senate Bill 4, I'm not going to, I could talk,

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most of the talk has been about House Bill 3. It was filed 13 days ago today,

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a week ago, two weeks ago tomorrow. At this point, I've seen one run, meaning from a statewide

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organization that's been able to calculate the runs. House Bill 3, one of

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the things that the author wanted to do and the Finance Reform Committee wanted

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to do was make things simpler. School of Finance is too complicated. We need to

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make it simpler for people to understand. Well at this point the reason we haven't

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seen runs and those runs were asterisk asterisk asterisk because it's too

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complicated to calculate. Okay? It's too difficult to calculate right now.

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As an example, right now, school finances, state compensatory education is based on

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the number of children that are qualified for free and reduced lunch,

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okay? That's how state funding works for calculating comp ed,

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free and reduced lunch applications. This throws that out and says we're going to

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fund state comp ed based on four tiers that have to do with the census, and

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And depending on where that geographic location of the house is will depend on whether that is, what tier of funding that that gets.

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Now, I'm talking about something that I may be repeating.

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I don't know anything about it, but neither do anybody in Austin.

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Okay?

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So that's speculation at this point.

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I would say that right now it looks like that wouldn't be good for KDISD if we did it that way.

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What has happened in KDISD since the last census?

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We're getting a new one coming up, but what has happened since the last one?

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We've had rice fields that now have elementary schools like crazy in them. So

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whatever data that they're going to refer back to has to be dated, but that's

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what the proposal is at this point. It's changing. I think

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some folks are kind of figuring out, hey, this may be tough to

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calculate, but that's what they're looking at as far as House Bill 3 goes

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now. One of the things that's really staple in public education, it's been

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around since 1990, since I was in college, was something called the cost of

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education index. And the cost of education index is an index that was

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done back in 1990 that looked at things like geographic things that say it's

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more expensive maybe to educate a child in the city of Houston than it is out

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in somewhere in West Texas or East Texas. And they had some data to back that up

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and they established what they call the CEI or the cost of education index. Back

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in 1999 the state paid for a big study the Dana Institute out of the University

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of Texas at Austin did a big study and came back with the updates that needed

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to be done. Nine years later they were too expensive so the legislature didn't

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do anything with them to update the CEI. So again I think it was in 2013 maybe

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2015 there was another study done this time at Texas A&M. As I

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understand it it's too expensive just leave it alone.

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Too expensive. Going back to 1990 our CEI, CEIs from across the state of Texas

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range from 0.2 to 0.16. We're 0.16, okay? I'm sorry, to 0.2 to 0.20, we are 0.16. I think the

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average is somewhere around 8 or 9, 0.09, okay? I'm not certain of that, but we're far above average.

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All the Houston area districts are around 116, HISD, I think they're 117. We have high cost of

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Education Index. Well because it's dated, the author of the bill said it's so

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dated nobody's wanted to touch it, doesn't mean anything anymore, let's get rid of

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it. As staple as that desk is in the classroom, the CEI has become in funding

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public education, especially in the Houston area. The Houston area, we offer

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our starting teacher salary is $53,500. Is that right?

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right? 53,500. In West Texas, it's 45,000. Big difference. Why? Well, we have more competition.

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It's more expensive to live here. Healthcare is more expensive here. It's better accessible. It's

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more expensive. Insurance on cars and stuff is there. So we've morphed our salary schedule

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over those 29 years around the CEI. Whether it's a good index or not, we've morphed our

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salary schedule around it. House Bill 3 and Senate Bill 4, because they're dated, do this.

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It didn't work. After all that. It didn't work. It knocks the leg out for funding education

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Education in districts with high CEIs just knocks the leg out from under it.

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We've morphed around that CEI for 29 years, and these stages, since it's so dated,

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we're just going to throw it away.

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Index doesn't mean anything anyway.

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53,500, 45,000, doesn't mean anything.

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I spoke to this board in January and said,

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you cannot take current pieces of the pie, even though they may have a high value,

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and redistribute them and not have losers.

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That would be magic.

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This isn't magic.

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There are going to be losers if they do away with the CEI.

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If you do away with the CEI alone,

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it costs this district annually $60 million.

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Annually, $60 million.

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Now, it costs other districts a bunch, too.

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Again, minimum CEI is 2%.

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So, House Bill 3 and Senate Bill, you have mechanisms to make up for it.

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And that's through Comp Ed. Remember that Comp Ed allotment that nobody knows how to calculate right now that's based on the census?

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If you have a low number of students that qualify, let's just say for free and

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reduced lunch because I know how to speak that, we're about 30%. If you have a high

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like some of our neighboring districts east of us that may have a 90%, you get

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brought back up. Like I brought that table up, you get brought back up and

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then some in some cases. In Katy, because we only have a 30%, we're not made whole

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and that desk is leaning on a purpose. Because we started in a $60 million

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hole and even though House Bill 3 increases the basic allotment by $890

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or to $6,030, it's not enough to get us back to where we were under current law.

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Okay, the piece of pie of this cost of education index is valued at $2.9

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billion and they're taking that and throwing it out and redistributing it

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through comp ed and let me tell you that the records show I think it's important

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that districts that have high poverty and poverty levels get the funds that

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they need because it is more expensive to fund to educate children of poverty

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it is but you can't put a system in in 29 years or rip that table leg out and

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not make up for it and it doesn't make up for it in KDISD it makes up for it a

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lot for example there's a district and I won't say the name they gained 21%

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funding if you equate 21% to us that's over a hundred million dollars that

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House Bill 3 would give us that's given them they had a lower CEI 10.10

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point one zero so they didn't fall as far to a deep as hole as a 60 million

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but they have 90% free and reduced lunch they came way out of it and there it's

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going to be worth a hundred million dollars to them if you were talking KDISD numbers.

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There's districts next to us that come out five, six hundred dollars more per student

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in in the classroom. If you take that and you just take

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let's just say 600 because I can do that math that's just over just over twelve thousand

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$12,000 per classroom that they will have

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to educate

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More additional monies that they will have to educate their children

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12,000 more per classroom that takes care of a pay raise for teachers and other staff

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so

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The average I think of the highest school districts in the states about seven and a half percent

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Recapture districts earn about 10% again. The highest that I've seen so far is about 21% We're at 0.5 and

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and that's assuming that we get that 6% value growth.

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So if we don't get the 6% value growth, then we may be at a negative on this deal.

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It does not do school finance reform and KDISD taking that piece of the pie and redistributing it.

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Again, I believe with all my heart and soul that the districts that have high comp ed numbers need it for those children.

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Katie Astey needs it because we've morphed our salary structures and as other districts in the suburban Houston area have morphed their salary structures around it.

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And we just don't have the high comp ed numbers to make up for it the way that those call for.

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So, in addition to House Bill 3, a couple of the highlights of it.

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they do away with the in an effort to make things a little simpler we do away

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with the gifted and talented allotment gifted and talented just goes away it's

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worth about three million dollars to KDISD they say they've made up for it in

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the basic allotment when they increased it eight hundred ninety dollars again

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that wasn't enough to make up us back whole but it does away with the comp ed

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allotment I'm sorry the gifted and talented allotment it does away with the

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high school allotment which is about six and a half million dollars to KDISD

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or worth about again that's supposed to be as monies are supposed to be saved

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and in the basic allotment and we'll spend it will still spend money on

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gifted and talented you bet I just want we want to receive revenue for it we'll

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still spend money on high school allotment programs we were before it was

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enacted we just won't get money for it again it'll come through the basic

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allotment but it won't it won't make up to where to where we are at this point

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whole. House Bill 3 does do some things like offer pre-k, full-day pre-k, require

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full-day pre-k. There's revenue associated with full-day pre-k. There's

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also an expense associated with full-day pre-k too that offsets or maybe even

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more than offsets the revenue associated with it. So when I talk about being up

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back to break even or 0.5, that includes, that doesn't include any

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additional expense for say full-day kindergarten at this point. It does

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provide three billion dollars of tax relief to our taxpayers. I think it's

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important and I left it out but we to go back to 47% where we were just some five

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years ago where we were paying 53% and the state of Texas was paying 47.7% of the cost to educate

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our children. We're now at about 70-30 as we know. Even with a 4 cent tax reduction,

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that's not going to mean much. It's not going to mean much to change that trend. And if our value

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keeps growing in KDISD, that's going to continue. We are now over 400 million. The taxpayers

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Taxpayers of this district are now paying over $400 million, have paid more than $400 million over the last several years, more to educate the cost of our children than the state's paying.

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And this is going to be a tin can in the road to help that, to stop that truck.

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It's a tin can in the road.

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It will continue that the local taxpayers are going to continue to pay more under the legislation that's there, even with the 4 cent tax reduction.

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I'm a proponent of saving monies on taxes.

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I did the math.

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I actually asked Ann to do the math earlier, last second.

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On the average homestead in our district, a $0.04 tax increase or decrease would save about $100 a year to the average residents.

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$100 a year, $0.04, administrative burden, and it would be real complicated and, in my opinion, so far anyway, not very transparent.

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I'm having trouble figuring it out.

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But it will happen.

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in four cents will go to the pockets of our taxpayers only to pay more in rising

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values towards the cost of educating the children in this district moving off of

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that Senate bill 5 that's another bill that's been filed I don't know where it

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had what kind of traction it has senator Betancourt filed that one it actually

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increases the homestead exemption from 25,000 to 35 35 thousand a ten

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$10,000 increase. What's that mean to our residents? That would mean on a resident with the homestead, we get about $150 in tax relief. I

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like that better. It's $150 and it's a lot easier and more transparent to explain, hey, your homestead exemption is now

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$35,000 versus 25. That's the perk you get as a homeowner.

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And it gives more relief to that homeowner because it's not just the M&O tax rate. That would be the full tax rate,

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which includes our debt service,

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that they would get that benefit from that that who knows where that'll go

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seen a bill 995 is Senator Seliger filed that that that bill up in the Panhandle

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area I was from me to mr. Gorg or ski away and heard him say we just need to

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increase the basic allotment and give it to the die SD's the ISD's will spend it

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the best way that they know how to spend it with their local decisions and that's

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to me the best thing that we could do with any excess funds we have. It's been

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filed. I don't even think it's gotten any traction, but I like it. House Bill 89 and

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Senate Bill 136 are companion bills, meaning that they mirror each other

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both at the House and the Senate side. Those raise the basic allotment $800

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over two years. I think it's like 300 and something the first year and 400 and

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something the second year for a total of $800. That's just under the $890 that

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House Bill 3 raises the basic allotment, but it also doesn't do away with the CEI

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as I understand it. It does increase, call for an increase of comp ed funding. So

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again students, districts with higher levels of poverty would still get

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more money in addition to the increase in the basic allotment. They'd still get

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get more money for those those students at the other point I was going to make

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on that but but that would be that would be good House bill 89 and I think those

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also keep the not certain of that so I won't say House bill 8089 and Senate

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bill 136 go to the to the legislative priorities that this districts had in

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the past. It ties the state's contribution to an index or the basic

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allotment to an index that would increase with inflation, etc. That's

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what we need to be able to plan and do the right things for the teachers and

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the staff of the district to deliver a better instructional quality. And to me,

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those meet it. But I don't think they're catching any service. It seems

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like House Bill three is the one that's got all the traction at this

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point and again it's not good for the elimination of the CEI was currently as

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in it's not good for this district so what are we going to do with our future

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property values we're going to continue to grow slowly or more robustly it's

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unknown at this time I think you can look around and see that we're still

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growing and you can see the residents popping up and the fact that we're

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getting 15 10 to 15 18 kids a day enroll in our district so that that's that's

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going to continue. What are the long-term impacts of the flood zones in the district?

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Property value impact, what's it going to do to the funding formulas?

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There's been some some talk in addition to that of going to current year values

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and not having the property value lag. There's been, let me back up back to my

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legislative slide, there's talk of uniform election dates, uniform bond

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bond election dates and bond disclosures and all kinds of other factors over

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7,419 bills that were filed prior to the deadline.

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And a large portion of them, not thousands, but many of them affect public education.

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And a lot of them that don't affect funding, which I'm here to talk about only.

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Enrollment growth, we're growing.

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Special populations is growing.

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We're going to talk about that a little later.

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state funding what's going to happen with the legislative actions when it

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comes to that we've done now with March and April I hope to have a little bit

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more details and hopefully there'll be less movement going on or something more

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concrete and hopefully it'll be a better picture than what I've talked about

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tonight I've been doing this for the last 36 hours so I'm kind of trying to

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catch up where we were with what's happened in the last 13 days and trying

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to get information to put together to talk about the impacts of the district

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So I know I'm a little excited, and that's not like me, but sorry.

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May and June, we'll take a closer look.

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Then we're going to look at the bottom line.

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We're going to formally look at the bottom line.

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And in July, we'll look at the bottom line on all our funds.

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And in August, we'll conclude this.

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But that's all my comments, and I'm sorry I went long-winded

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and got a little passionate about some of the things.

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But when you've seen and you've worked around something for 29 years,

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and to see that go away and not be made up for concerns me for the taxpayers and the children of this particular district.

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Thank you, Mr. Smith.

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Board, do you have any questions?

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I have some questions, but I won't be here that much longer, so I have some comments as well.

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Mr. Smith, you and I have been talking about this for 18 months.

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The problem is when people choose not to get in the weeds, sometimes they get run over, and that's where we are right now.

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People have wanted to do legislative strategies on bullet points and

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ideological comfort zones rather than look at the math.

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I think it's important tonight, I've been doing this since 1973.

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This literally is one of the most devastating financial reports,

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almost de facto expose of the state's financial and

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and operational corruption that's been ongoing for 30 years.

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I want to make four or five points about why we are here tonight,

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because if you're not talking to your representatives in belligerent, aggressive, arrogant tones,

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and you allow the legislators of this district to walk away from what you've heard tonight,

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even if you've not fully internalized it, you're making the mistake of a lifetime for this district.

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I'm out of here May 4th. Let me put this in real terms.

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The state of Texas is making these financial moves for one underlying fundamental reason.

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The state of Texas since 1989 has been an institutional pathological liar

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about closing the academic equity gap for at-risk minority kids.

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Two, it has reached a point where they can't run much more. The legislature only does things when

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the lawsuits are building steam behind the scenes. You can't have 30 and 40 and 50 point equity gaps

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between at-risk kids and not at-risk kids when at-risk kids are statistically

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dominated by children of color and be under a constitutional mandate to close

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the academic equity gap and you have a testing scheme that destroys curriculum

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you have a testing scheme that lies about what we're doing for children it

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It lies about what they know, literally no hyperbole.

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So what you have here is a state of Texas who has come down to the last 10 yards of a 30-year dash,

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and they are now having to recognize that they have lied about their constitutional burden.

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So what do you do?

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What they've done over the last 30 years, 20 years, however long it's been,

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is they've taken property money from school districts in increasing amounts,

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and they shift it, and they use that for equity funding.

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That is a constitutional mandate.

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Then in our district, in Fort Bend and other districts like ours,

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they do this shell game where as our values go up 6%,

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we're going to lose a proportionate amount of state aid.

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He was kind.

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He said $400 million.

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Since 2013-14, I think your real numbers from memory were over $500 million.

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Over $500 million.

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Through next year's budget.

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Over $500 million in Fort Bend ISD.

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So what has happened is the state confronting this reality is having to take money that is in the pie.

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This is not complicated.

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They are taking money that they are currently generating through confiscating property taxes or redistributing property taxes, and they're taking some of that pie and they're moving it from some categories of school districts.

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They're grabbing the pie and they're moving it over to districts that have a high component

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of at-risk children, hoping that that will stave off the results where they're headed.

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In the end, what Mr. Smith has said for the last 18 months as we've been talking about

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this is the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.

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They are redistributing an existing pie to create maximum winners and maximum losers.

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And we have members of the Texas legislature who are fundamental morons.

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They do not understand what they are doing.

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They absolutely do not understand what they're doing.

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They have never understood it on academic equity.

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if you ask them what a raw cut score was, you could waterboard them and they could plead ignorance.

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Okay, if you were to ask them about the cost of education index, some arrogant members of the legislature would say,

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well, you've been getting that for a long time, you don't deserve it.

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This is all a 100% shell game.

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They may increase the sales tax revenue to make the pie a little bit bigger.

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But in this school district and districts like this, we have a high percent of at-risk minority kids in this district.

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We don't have as many as a lot of school districts.

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Our at-risk minority kids deserve the same commitment that ones in the Valley, ones in Central Texas, ones in rural Texas deserve.

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Yet the legislature will not step up and do its duty. They continue to play shell games with property tax dollars, pretend.

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How we and Michael Schofield go before the Katie Republican Women's Club and say, how much value does the state get out of property tax?

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Big zero. Big lie. Big zero. Big lie. They will not add from the state treasury the level of funding that is necessary. The analogy, and I'll close on this, the analogy that I often give is I'm from West Columbia. To get to my hometown, I drive past Damon Mound.

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It rises 126 feet. It was an old salt dome and it rises 126 feet.

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I dare say that I am the only person in this room tonight who is actually skilled Damon Mound.

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The legislature wants to fund closing the academic equity gap like it's walking up Damon Mound.

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When in reality, providing at-risk education, providing gifted and talented education,

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providing the full range of academic opportunities that we want for our

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children but especially at-risk minority kids is like climbing Mount Everest it

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is not easy if you want one analogy to take away from this to the if the lips

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of the Texas legislature are moving institutionally they're lying they're

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They're misrepresenting, they're scheming, they're protecting themselves.

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And if you want to honestly assess the command that is needed,

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the demand of services and resources that are needed to bring children who come to school,

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who can't read, they don't have the background, to grade level.

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That is a Herculean task. It is a moral task.

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It is an ethical challenge of magnitude.

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to, and they're pretending like it's easy, and they're pretending that they're closing

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the equity gap, and when they get their hands caught in absolute malfeasance, they put their

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dirty hands in a piece of pie, and they move it over to other districts, meeting winners

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and losers.

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I'm out of here, folks, May 4th.

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I've been trying to lead on this issue for three years, and I guess this will be my valedictory

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comment but this district is about to get tattooed I won't use the other part

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of that oil field expression this district is about to get tattooed other

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districts are about to get tattooed and it's because we have made a decision in

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this state that we as long as you have our quote ideology as long as you have

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our party will support you come hell or high water what I'm telling you is this

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my children are out of this my children are gone they're out of public education

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the only reason I wanted to be on this board was to try to ensure that KD ISD

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in public education gave your children and other children the same

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opportunities that I had for my children in this district and the bottom line is

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this is in jeopardy and if you want to know what's really going on here I'm

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Nostradamus I found a previously unwritten quatrain an unpublished

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quatrain this is to create chaos in areas that will lead to a demand for

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privatization and vouchers and if you don't believe that you need to study the

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issues harder. Madam President. Mr. Scott are you done? Mr. Lacey. Mr. Smith thank you so

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much. I just want to kind of go over some things that I know a lot of people may

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have missed. I remember our rotten apples that you so wonderfully illustrated

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and made it so simple. Just to just remind everyone what percentage of $1 of

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our tax income, our tax revenue, what percentage goes to the general fund or

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to the state of goes to the what used to be called the Robin Hood. What is that

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number? The local taxpayers contribute approximately 68 to 70 percent of the 100 percent it costed

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to educate those children. And about how much do we get back? About 30 percent, 32 to 30 percent.

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So round numbers, it's costing us about 40 cents per dollar. So about 40 percent of our total income.

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Growing annually, yes, sir.

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Okay.

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And we're compared to basically, as I recall, the baseline is the Austin ISD.

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Is that correct?

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Baseline is the basic allotment for the first, in our case, 108 pennies of our tax rate.

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Yes.

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Is the basic allotment, and that's currently at $5,140.

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I already used the wrong word.

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I'm sorry.

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Sorry, when establishing how much we get back, that's we were compared.

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Am I mixing up a couple of different programs where we are compared to what Austin ISD is doing?

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Yes, sir. And there's not but about 100 people across the state that can get that.

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So don't don't feel bad about that there. There is the first hundred and eight pennies of our tax rate.

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we are far from recapture the but the wealthier we get or the closer we get to

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a yield of five thousand one hundred forty dollars if you take our property

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values divided by a number of students the closer we get to that level the less

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state funds we get so we are getting closer to that and if things continue to

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say at the same rate they have the last five or six years at one point we would

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be a recapture district and we would be recapture but recapture is a good term

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but it also is one that is easy to understand and people catch on but when

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you get less mistake money every year it's just a different form of recapture

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it's still this local property value payer paying more towards educating

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children it's a nice way to to piggyback on what mr. Scott said it's a really

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nice way to make it sound like we're just being equitable to everybody but

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we're still not getting and I don't think that we would ever be made whole

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I'm sure because we're considered one of the more wealthy districts

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And we do need to help some of our not so wealthy districts out in some of the outlying areas a

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Couple other real quick questions

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So basically that that comparison that Austin to us

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Austin are they considered an urban school yet?

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Austin yes

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Austin has a low base

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cost of education index, but they're very wealthy when it comes to per student. So

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if you take their number, their property value, and divide it by their weighted

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average daily attendance, it comes in to over a million dollars a student. That's,

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so as that increases, that's when, when it becomes over a million dollars per

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student, that's when the Austin yield went to above a dollar. Yeah. Okay, so do

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the math. Property value divided by weighted average students, or number of

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students. If it's more than a hundred dollars in Austin's case, I mean a

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thousand dollars, a million dollars in Austin's case, in our case it's about

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three hundred and fifty thousand dollars. So we're far less wealthy than Austin ISD.

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But the index on those golden pennies, the six golden pennies that KDISD

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has, is tied to Austin's wealth. So as their value goes up and their students

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don't grow as fast, their wealth per student goes up. And that's why we're

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seeing it go from $106 or I think the math is $1,600,000 or maybe $1,060,000 per student.

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They're getting more and now it's going up to $126,000. So it's $1,200,000 per student if I'm

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doing the math right on the fly. So they're getting wealthier but then on those six golden pennies

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we get we get that bang for our buck so we only may get three hundred and fifty

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thousand dollars per penny but they match us was the difference in what

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Austin can get off that yield so that's why those are called golden pennies or

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have been dubbed golden pennies because the investment on the top end of our tax

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rate generates substantial state funds that that this that that districts can

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can control up to four cents without an election, two more cents with a natural disaster or an election only.

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So at this point, under current law.

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One last question.

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You were talking about something to do with the census.

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Are you talking about census tracts?

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Do you recall offhand?

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Mr. Lacey, I'm...

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Your brain's probably off.

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It has something to do with going back to the census and the tracts.

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Yes, sir, census tracts.

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and there's different tracks across the state of Texas and depending on

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where our residence is in that track you will be deemed as that you will get more

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and it's an index it's a sliding scale index so some tracks may get a whole

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bunch of comp ed students comp ed funding some tracks may not get as much

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there's four tiers according to some of what I'm hearing here whereas right now

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it's just free and reduced lunch if you got them you got them it's to your

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your highest six months average.

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That's how the comp ed's funded now.

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How it's gonna be funded in the future right now,

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even the experts at the state level

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are having trouble calculating it.

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I appreciate everything that you have tried to

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come up with to try and explain this,

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because it is a, I'm sure, infuriating

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problem that we can foresee in the future

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if it goes against us.

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So I greatly appreciate all that you're doing

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to try and bring this to our attention and not just us but the community as well so that we can

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speak to our state senators and legislatures. So thank you very much, Mr. Smith. And I will say that

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again, the goal was to make things simpler. I may be getting older. I got called a grandfather

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today, asked about my grandkids. Far from that, I hope. But I'm getting older and a little less

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adapt to change but I see this is not getting at least some of the things that

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have traction now is not being any easier being more complicated than what

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we're dealing with now are you finished mr. Lipson yes ma'am anyone else

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and president miss Fox I concur Thank You mr. Smith for the presentation it's

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exhaustive and confusing I've several points that I just want to go through I

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I appreciate you talking about the teacher and librarian pay bill.

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That's the $5,000 they're talking about, right?

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Yes, ma'am.

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That they're saying $5,000 for every teacher and teachers are getting so excited about

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it, but it doesn't cover counselors, nurses, paraprofessionals, our special ed aides, our

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people who make everything else run.

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As I understand it, it only covers those FTEs that are counselors.

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I mean that are teachers and librarians.

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librarians. And my understanding in talking to my legislators is that this

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is a two-year funding and they say that they cannot commit future legislature to

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something they pass so it's really only guaranteed for the biennium or is it

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maybe even just one year by the time they get finished it'd be by the time

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they'd meet again so two years. I think it's two years but when it would take

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effect I don't know is considering they may not nothing may happen that's

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tangible and that it's concrete until sometime in the middle of the summer and

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then the ISDs across the state have to react and implement what they've done

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assuming it starts September 1. And then once those teachers and librarians have

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that and then it's not funded two years from now that's going to fall on the

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district and how will we how we fund that? Under current law that would be a

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great question. There's only two ways to fund it. Use your your savings or fund

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balance that we talk about we need to have that more than 25% or three months

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supply you could use that for some time and you could find ways to reduce

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expenses well okay moving on to the compensatory ed numbers you said we're

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around 30% which is in keeping with the other numbers we've seen how accurate

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this may not I'm not sure who the question is for how accurate do you

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think that 30% number is. My understanding is that we have a number, I don't know if

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it's a large number, of families who don't want to identify as free and reduced lunch,

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yet they could if they chose to apply for it. But many people, I don't know, embarrassed

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maybe to do it. They want to take care of themselves. Maybe they, I don't know, fear

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of the government you know there are lots of reasons why people don't apply for free and

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reduced lunch that they could qualify my point in saying that is that those children would really

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qualify in the need for differentiated instruction in order to be able to meet their needs

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educationally so is that number a little low do you think mr superintendent it would be real hard

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to speculate how many of those kids or those families are not applying for but

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I do know this from our campus level perspective for the folks that are on

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the campus level when they do identify children who look like they're

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struggling or look like they don't eat adequate meals or aren't eating

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breakfast or having issues like that we do reach out to those families and

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encourage them to go ahead and fill out those applications the other good thing

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about our application system is if there are young children in the system and

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they have applied and they have a sibling it will automatically link those

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applications if by chance an older sibling has not filled that out for the

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reasons you've described maybe they get to high school and they are embarrassed

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by that or they don't want to be identified that way but our system will

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link those kids to go ahead and identify them ensure we're meeting those families

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needs miss Fox one one thing that when I was in high school 30 years ago when we

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When we went through the lunch line, there were kids that wouldn't pay.

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I whipped out my $2.25, whatever it was, $1.50, I don't remember, it's been so long ago.

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But those that didn't pay just got to go through.

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And we saw, oh, you're on pre-introduced lunch.

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It was a stigma.

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Nowadays with technology, everybody uses a badge.

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whether you have

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$1,000 on that badge or you're free and reduced lunch, you use that badge.

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So that stigma is gone.

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But I think a lot of us parents still remember the days back when we were there.

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That's my opinion on it.

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Right.

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My understanding is it's the parents who feel bad, like I should provide for my children,

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and maybe some of them have a little bit of concern that if they're in free reduced lunch,

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maybe the government can identify them and make it difficult for them to work.

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I mean it I am appreciate mr. Scott's talking about the achievement gap and minority kids I

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Believe also that it's not just color of skin

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It's socio economics right when when children are low socio-economic they they just have greater needs

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You know for meeting and we do differentiate our instruction and and provide for that in many ways

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When you talk about the full-day pre-k

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that the legislature is talking about, that's not full-day pre-K for everyone.

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That's, again, the low socioeconomic.

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As I understand it, it's for those that qualify for pre-K now.

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So it's not all.

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It's some.

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Okay.

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And, Ms. Fox and President Doyle,

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there's some things that I'm remembering now about House Bill 3 that come up

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that I've not spoke to that are good.

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They fund dyslexia.

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They fund some of the allotments a little bit more.

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And I apologize.

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Again, I think that there was an effort to try to be reformative in some cases,

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and I haven't spoken to all of them.

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And, you know, for those that watched it on tape going with the score,

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you didn't mention this.

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I'm sorry.

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Well, it's too complicated.

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It's too complicated, and there's too many moving parts right now.

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But if we do full-day pre-K, now we need more buildings and more teachers.

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It's a concern for a fast-growing school district like this.

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That's a lot of room in a district like ours.

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I just wanted to make sure that people didn't expect that every pre-K was going to go to school full time.

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I also understand, just on a side note here, the tourism lobby was pushing pretty hard to fight against districts of innovation.

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I knew someone who was there during the testimonies, and we were texting back and forth.

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Do you know if that got any leverage? I forgot to ask and it just kind of popped.

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They don't like our, they want to go back to that very late August start time so that their Fiesta Texas and all of their tourism can be staffed by our high school kids.

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And that families will stay and spend money. It's how that originally happened.

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How we moved to the fourth Monday in August was because the tourism lobby convinced the state legislature

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if we'd save a lot of money on air conditioning our buildings because we could turn the air conditioning off in the summer.

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Well, you can't do that in the state of Texas, certainly in the southern part of Texas.

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And it saved $0.

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There was never any proof of any savings.

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And I understand now that we have districts of innovation and a little bit of freedom to determine our start date.

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We moved ours up one week right that now they're lobbying again

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I just wondered if you knew if it got any traction do we need to be calling our legislators?

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Yeah, that bill you're referring to is still kind of hanging around out there, but it hasn't moved really too much forward

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I don't know what's going to happen with it

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It's really early in the session to really tell there are two or three different bills that that attach some different

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I guess

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challenges or changes to districts of innovation or DOIs and we're watching to see how those kind of play out and see what happens.

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But there are some folks who do want to regulate the calendar kind of the way they used to regulate the calendar with

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mandatory start and end dates whereas we will always maintain that that's a local decision for our community to select our calendars and

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we're going to watch those bills to see if any changes move forward with that, but I haven't seen anything lately.

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If that does, maybe we could...

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I'm going to come back to that.

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That's my last thing.

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I have one more quick thing.

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The basic allotment is $5140.

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Yes, ma'am, currently.

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HB3, what is it?

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Do you know?

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$6030, I believe.

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$890 difference.

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Okay.

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And again, that's just to pull us out of the drop of the CEI

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and to make up for the loss of gifted and talented in the high school allotment.

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Those are the three raises and new money into the system. It's just not enough new money to get us out of the CEI hole

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So my final thing

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What can we do? What can we do to help? I know from being sitting at this desk

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I when I first moved here, I didn't I didn't care about all the politics. I don't really like politics surprisingly

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But I learned sitting at this desk how important it is for us to talk to our legislators.

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What they don't, who they don't want to hear from is us.

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We're the WASP, the Whiney A. School people.

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They don't want to hear from us.

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They want to hear from the taxpayers.

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They want to hear from constituents.

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How can we help?

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Is it possible that we could send emails to our, however the amazing Dr. Grims and her

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communication people are send something out to give bullet points for people to

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call and talk or send an email or I mean we have to speak up you Mr. Scott is

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right we cannot sit by and do nothing or we will be losers and in what I see

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coming now we agree wholeheartedly with you miss Fox on that and we are not

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going to sit idly by as a matter of fact Chris and I will be over in Austin on

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Wednesday meeting with some of our folks who represent the Katy area and we are

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are going to make a case for how we feel their representation impacts Katie and

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we expect them to do their best for Katie ISD and we're going to show them

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what that really means in the meantime Chris and I have a draft of a press

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release not quite ready to go out yet but we're also going to wait on until

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Wednesday possibly when we have some meetings and hear what's happening

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firsthand in Austin and then our goal is to get that information out to the

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the community. We want to inform the community through that press release of how certain bills

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are impacting KDISD and our funding and our finances and our children. And as always, I'll

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keep the board updated weekly on different information, how it impacts this group and what

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we can do as a group to move it forward. For some of us who are in frequent contact with our

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legislators I would appreciate some just a few bullet points that I can we can

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call them and speak with them about and then if you'll keep us updated I'll send

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out to my group of people who will make the phone calls if if it'll help it will

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help thanks thank you anyone else I have a question mr. Smith I'm sorry I'm

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hoping that this one will be easy I know that our audience is just captivated by

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this but when I take the five thousand one hundred and forty dollars and

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multiply it by seventy nine thousand four hundred eighty one children this

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year it comes out to four hundred and eight million five hundred thirty two

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thousand three hundred forty dollars and when I look at the total estimated

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revenue of seven hundred fifteen million dollars where so you know and I can see

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the how it's all divided up and everything but but where exactly does

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that allotment come from? Okay and I didn't hear your finality on your math, but again the basic

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allotment $5,140 is adjusted by the cost of education index and it moves it upwards by 0.16

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through a formula. So when you run that through all the other weights based on our student

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demographics and I don't ever get into this detail because it will make everybody's eyes

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roll back in their head, but the CEI serves a basic, a fundamental like the

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chair on that desk over the last 29 years of boosting the basic allotment

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and I think in our case it moves $5,140 to $5,726.

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So then you do your math on our number of students and you're

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going to be higher and then the other part is there's about $40 million, I'm

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I'm sorry, about 20, right at $30 million in Tier 2 monies that get added on top of that based on our,

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and then you've got to remember the local taxes that are the lion's share of the equation.

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And when you add those in along with those two numbers, the number that you came up with, you're right at our budget number.

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All right.

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Thank you.

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Everybody's good.

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Good. I just want to reiterate a couple of things to make sure I heard you correctly.

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Under House Bill 3, GT funding will be non-existent. Is that correct?

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The state will, under House Bill 3 as it's drafted now, the state will no longer deliver revenue to the two districts that serve a GT population.

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And you don't have to give me an exact number. What is our, what are we spending for our GT programs?

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Just spending.

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Oh, what are we?

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We are receiving currently about three million dollars or just under three million dollars for that. We're spending far more than that.

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Okay, and then and maybe this is this is more of a statement than it is a question for you.

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I find it interesting that the

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the districts that have a larger free and reduced lunch

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population are going to be receiving more funding, but what about you know, we've noticed a rise in our special education

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education. Programs and students here in the district.

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There's is there never any talk about how the state will

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compensate districts like ours who have an increase in our SPED

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program are spent population. You know why are those children

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and their education not being

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considered? I'm sorry and I it wasn't meant to be a question.

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It was yeah, it was just a statement that I will point out

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Ms. Doyle that House Bill 3 is a draft. It does provide monies for dyslexia and

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I'm not sure what that generates. I've calculated I'm going to say it's right

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around three million dollars too. We're not getting funding for that now but we

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are serving dyslexia students just like we would serve GT students without the

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funding. We are serving dyslexia students now but in effort to acknowledge that

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they are out there, they are, I think House Bill 3 does have some money set

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set aside for dyslexia. Which I think are currently and Mr. Dr. Malachuk can

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correct me if I'm wrong they're not considered now dyslexic children are not

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considered now special needs just based on to let dyslexia known alone and that

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could change under all of this where we're now they would be qualified for

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special ed funding as well. Could could call for. All right thank you Mr. Smith

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I appreciate it.

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We will move on to our consent agenda.

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Agenda item 5.1, consider future board approval of the March 2019 budget amendments.

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Mrs. Butterfield.

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Good evening, President Doyle, trustees, and Superintendent Grogorski.

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Can you hear me?

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Tonight we have three general fund budget amendments that are both increasing revenue

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and recognizing an expenditure budget.

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They are $114,000 for center point repates, $5,000 for improvements at Davidson Elementary,

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entry and $59,210 for HCC dual credit classes. Additionally, expenditures increased $26,708

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for the replacement of a vehicle and $747,000 to fund the move of portable buildings this

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this summer. Approval of these general operating fund amendments will decrease the general operating fund balance by $773,708. The food service fund has a budget amendment tonight for $155,715 for the purchase of a new cafeteria point of sale system. An approval of this amendment will result in $155,715.

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$15 decrease to the food service fund balance construction expenditures are

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recognized of two million six hundred eighty one thousand four five projects

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including gliding at roads paving at the support services complex stage curtain

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replacement Holland Elementary's gym floor and a security fencing all of

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these will be funded from 2014 bond project savings are there any questions

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you have 5.2 as well go ahead yes thank you we continue to experience a very

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successful business relationship with Prosperity Bank and as our current bank

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depository who was selected during the 2017 bid process it is therefore

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recommended that the Board of Trustees adopt the resolution authorizing the

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extension of the bank depository contract with Prosperity Bank for the

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two-year term beginning September 1st 2019 are there any questions okay Thank

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You mrs. better field agenda item 5.3 consider future board approval of the

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renewal of the Texas Association school board risk management fund casualty

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insurance program mr. Nauman good evening superintendent Gorg or ski

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president Doyle Board of Trustees in March of 2018

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the KDISD Board of Trustees approved the renewal premium quote from the TASB

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Risk Management Fund for a 12-month period providing auto, general liability,

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police liability, and school board liability coverage for the district at a

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cost of $254,477. The Risk Management Department seeks to

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renew this program which provides casualty coverage for the district.

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Although the district continues to grow, adding more employees and assets yearly,

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the renewal premium is offered at a 4.5% higher than expiring at an annual cost of $266,665.

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This is the result of organic growth rather than loss experience. The program provides

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commercial auto liability coverage for vehicles owned, operated, and or leased by the district.

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Additionally, the program provides general liability coverage to ensure against actions resulting from the day-to-day operations of the district.

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Next, police operations are also contemplated as part of this offering.

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Lastly, the program extends school board legal liability coverage for those claims related to administrative issues.

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After the evaluation of losses over the past three years, the Risk Management Department believes it is not cost effective to purchase comprehensive coverage on the district's fleet, as the premium expense is far greater than the loss experience.

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This program only provides liability coverage. The program has been reviewed regarding adequacy of cover, assessment of risk, availability of services, and cost.

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Authority is granted to purchase this coverage through CRB Legal and CRB Local.

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It is recommended that the Board of Trustees approves the renewal of the Texas Association

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of School Board TASB Risk Management Fund Casualty Insurance Program.

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Are there any questions? Mr. Scott?

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I understand you to say that this is a difference that we're not going to have comprehensive.

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That is correct.

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So there's increasing premiums and a reduction.

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Let me clarify.

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The comprehensive coverage, we provide catastrophic losses through our property insurance program for our fleet,

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where we have our three transportation centers.

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And the premium savings for not carrying comprehensive is very substantial.

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So our losses indicate that we have hardly any losses over the last three and over the last eight or nine years to justify carrying true comprehensive as you might.

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This is on vehicles fleet.

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Vehicles are yellow and are white fleet.

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Okay.

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An example.

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If something catastrophic were to happen, a tornado would hit a bus barn or something like that,

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then that would be covered completely.

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Under our property policy.

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Under property.

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But if one of our cars hits another car and it's our fault, the liability would cover.

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Correct.

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But it would not cover the damage to our vehicle.

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That is correct.

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Do we have numbers that kind of support that decision?

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Roughly, it runs about anywhere from $900 to $1,100 a year,

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and we run about 850 vehicles in our fleet,

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and that would equate to anywhere from $800,000 to $900,000 in premium savings by garnishing that.

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That's pretty good.

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Thank you.

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Yes, sir.

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Any other questions?

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Okay.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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5.4, discuss and consider future board approval of the campus staffing plan for 2019-2020

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school year.

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Mr. Shush.

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Good evening, President DeWolf, members of the board, Superintendent Gagorski.

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Did you pull the microphone closer to you, please?

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Yes.

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Is that better?

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Yeah.

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Thank you.

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Okay.

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Okay, President DeWolf, members of the board, Superintendent Gregorski, good evening.

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Happy to present the 19-20 campus staffing plan to you this evening.

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First, though, I do want to say how much I appreciate everyone that's been a part of this process.

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You know, it involves input from a lot of folks, a lot of different departments,

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from campus principals, our school leadership team, department heads, HR staff.

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It's an extremely important process to ensure the success of our district and staffing appropriately,

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and I just wanted to publicly state my appreciation.

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So now talking about the 19-20 campus staffing recommendations.

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These recommendations are based on enrollment growth of about 2,800 students.

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It's a little higher than the enrollment growth projection last year.

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It was about 2,600.

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We're requesting a total of 382.26 campus staffing units,

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and we're also requesting an additional 153 units for our campus support and auxiliary personnel.

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These positions provide direct support to the campuses.

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If you look at that and comparing to last year, it's a significant increase in staffing over last year, about 228 additional units over the previous year.

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Reasons for that, opening two new campuses this year as opposed to one last year.

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Following my report, you're going to receive a report on special education.

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There are significant increases there, and that is a big part of this number.

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additional grade at Pato High School and again the enrollment growth projection

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that is a little bit higher this year than last year and when you put that

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all together you know it can be a considerable amount of staff but it's

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very appropriate that we that we staff appropriately and and I think we have a

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good plan I was really happy to be a part of the process and in closing we're

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recommending that the Board of Trustees approve the 1920 on the campus staffing

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plan are there any questions board members miss Fox riding as fast as I can

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welcome to Katie I stay I know you just got here now here you are doing this

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thank you and I'm not sure if this question will need to get back to me how

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How is our staffing ratios with the recommendation that you're giving us compared to previous

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years?

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We, teacher-student ratio on some and then our administrative ratio.

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I know that KDISD prides itself that we are below the state and regional averages for

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around our area.

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So do you have those numbers with you?

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Yes.

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So let me speak to that.

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you know at the elementary level we staff at 22 to 1 and we do constantly

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watch that and at the junior high and high school level they're at either 23

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or 24 to 1 specific administrative ratios I can't speak to right now but

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what I can tell you that 382.26 campus staffing units about 350 of the 382 are

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teachers and campus paraprofessional staff so if you look at that as a

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percentage that's what 10% or so administratively so I believe that is

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below the typical averages that are I think run around 11 and a half 12%

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around 11 or 12 percent is our average well yeah that's just an example I was

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just giving you example based on this staffing that it's not administratively

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heavy but as far as districts wide I don't have it but I can get that to you

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Mr. Gretgorski has it on top of his head.

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Yeah, I'll jump right in there on a few figures on there.

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So when you talk about campus staffing, some of the other positions, as you know,

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the teacher positions are allocated off a standard of 22 to 1 at elementary K through 4.

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And then for the secondary, we have not changed those ratios.

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We have held a standard on those, and I can't remember.

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I know I've been here two years, and we've had the same ratios,

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and for a few years before that we did that we've always had the same student-teacher ratios.

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When it comes to campus administrators, counselors, instructional staff, instructional coordinators,

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those type of positions that aren't based on student to teacher ratio, we have staffing

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standards in place and the staffing standards that we use this year to staff those positions

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are the same standards we've been using the last two years that I've been here as well

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working with HR.

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The part you did mention about administrative costs, that's more of a question over there

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for Mr. Smith and he has shown some different figures in the past and I know it was in the

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the budget we just saw. Administratively as a whole, as a district, not

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specifically campus related administrative costs, but our

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administrative costs for the district are, I believe, some of the lowest in the

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area. We're neck and neck with the neighboring district every year to see who's the lowest in the area and I think we're probably the lowest in the state and we're under 2% and we've

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always run under 2%. That may go from 1.8 to 1.9 to 1.8 to 1.7 to 1.8. It kind of teeters,

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but we do maintain and have been since I've been here a very low administrative cost ratio.

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And we will continue that same model. It's a priority. I think we run pretty lean or

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as lean as we can run administratively without sacrificing any support that we provide those

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those campuses, but you'll see year over year with this budget is most of our ads that we

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do put into personnel are going to be those campus-based positions and specifically teachers

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and paraeducators who get into those classrooms to support those kids.

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One of the explanations that I give when people ask me about that, you know, you're so top-heavy,

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there are so many administrators, and I talk about when you get more than 22 children in

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elementary get another class when you get another class you get another when

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you get 750 students if I'm correct about this you get a helper when you get

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over a thousand you get something else those things happen at the campus level

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where we are talking about classrooms at the district level when we get two more

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campuses and we get four more campuses and we're at 70 is it are we right at

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70 campuses soon to be 70 campuses we still have one superintendent we still

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have one CAO we still have one CFO like the 80,000 students and growing we still

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have one person managing all of that so when we talk administrative ratios

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that's why I asked the question we still have one HR director we're not adding

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more but at the campus level when we're talking classrooms that's where we put

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our money it's where we put our dollars in instruction 65 i believe mr smith talked about

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we are focused on the classroom and i am asking you one more question and i don't know who the

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answer is but we talk 22 to 1 at elementary 23 24 to 1 at secondary but our numbers are actually

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district-wide much lower than that around 14 to 1 when we add in our special ed numbers and

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13 or 14 to 1 is that still where we are we have been in the past yeah I'd have

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to pull that again from a peems document to see exactly but you're right once we

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add in specialized programs and then you add in what we call line item type

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staffing things that are not in those ratios like the number of band directors

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you might receive and then PE teachers obviously teach more than the 22 to 1 or

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even more than 28 to 1 at the high school level so by the time you put

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put everything into the mix of everyone who's called a teacher and you divide that out per

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pupil, it significantly drops that number down.

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I think when you look at those on the TEA numbers or something and you look at teacher

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student ratio, you'll see 13 or 14 to 1.

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People are, wait a minute, I have 30 kids in my biology class sometimes as we're growing

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and changing around.

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But that's because we have a lot of programs, YCAP, ECAP, PPCD, special ed, when we are helping babies be successful from the time they come to us until they graduate, sometimes those ratios are much smaller, sometimes 2 to 1, 1 to 1, sometimes 6 to 1.

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And those are where those numbers come from that we'll see probably on our dashboard.

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Certainly.

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You're spot on in your assessment on that, Ms. Fox.

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those numbers do get kind of skewed when you add in specialized programs because a lot of our special needs types programs are very labor intensive to where you might have one student or two students, one teacher, three students, one teacher, you know, and those kind of ratios so they impact the overall program.

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And it's kind of like what Mr. Smith was talking about in there.

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You do get a little bit of a cost of there's a multiplier in there with the state formulas for special education students,

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and they are weighted a little bit more heavy.

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But I'll tell you this, the weights don't even come close to the cost of educating some of our most highly need specialized students.

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And last thing I promise, Madam President, I appreciate you talked about band directors

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and choir directors and orchestra directors, 150 kids, and they have two people helping out.

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And we have that in place, too.

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When you get this many number, you get a helper, those things.

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But those numbers are crazy, right, crazy big, and coaches and all those educators who take on 100 kids.

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And so when you think about all those people doing all those great things and the success we get,

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it's complicated to just have a one number.

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Thank you.

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Anyone else?

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Sure, Mr. Scott.

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A couple of points.

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One, Mr. Smith, you know that when we worked on the presentation that Fort Bend ISD and I put on at TASB,

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we did a historical look, and it went back about 10 to 12 years.

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And the truth of the matter is, if you look at it in a big-picture way,

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the percentage whether you use per student or percent of percent of total

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budget was remarkably stable in all the functions and the functions is how the

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TEA breaks down where you know you're doing it on students you're doing it on

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pure administration it allows you to really classify it but I don't leave

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this issue without making another comment relative to state finance we

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We heard in an earlier presentation, you know we got three more meetings of this,

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you heard in an earlier presentation the concern about education funding for gifted and talented,

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or the education funding for special education, or weighted programs, what they're called.

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waiting programs. It's good to be able to say that our pupil-teacher ratio is 14

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or 15 because of these other things, but here's what it simultaneously says. In

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some of our core instruction classes, the pupil-teacher ratio is up. Don't think

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for a nanosecond that the issue of public school finance and the

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the deficiencies, the malfeasance deficiencies of the state of Texas that mandates programs

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or federal regulations that mandate programs.

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And I'm not saying the program shouldn't be offered, shouldn't be requested,

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but it's a shell game in terms of funding.

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So when we have to have one teacher to four kids or one teacher to five kids or 10 or 12,

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and we magnify that across the school district,

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the end result of that is some core instruction classes go up,

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and that has an impact on curriculum.

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So once again, if you want to stay out of the weeds of what the legislature is doing in public school finance,

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you're not going to have the ability to make a full understanding of the impact

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that all of these people that line the walls, all of our principals, some of whom

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are here tonight, all of our teachers deal with. The legislature sits up high,

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they pontificate, they legislate. In many cases they don't give a rat's tail about

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the consequences of their actions. They want to come to Austin, they want to go

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home and the end result is that these people that line the corridors of this

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building and the people in the classrooms end up paying the price and

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you can mark my words right now I don't know exactly what the legislature is

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going to end up doing in this session but the end result it's not going to be

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good for Katie period unless something happens thank you mr. Scott madam

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President Champagne I have a few questions Mr. Shush and I'm going to just ask you the questions

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and then you can I'll ask all the questions if you want to try to remember them or not

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I'm hoping you can remember them first of all I'm going to give a shout out to Mr. Stocks again just

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because he was the principal a couple years ago at Taylor High School and I was on his CAT team

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and I remember him talking about a lot of the classes that are offered in the course catalog

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that if if they weren't running the interest in the class and then we

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couldn't have the class I'm trying to remember what he told me the answer to

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this I can't remember but you know what the number of students is required so

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that one of those classes can be offered so that it would be cost-effective in

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other words you're not going to have a class of only one kid wants to be in

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that class that's one question also if dyslexia is not part of spend I'm glad

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that mrs doyle asked that question um who which teachers are teaching it are they just part of

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the regular curriculum teachers that are having to try to fit that in and then the last question is

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has to do with instructional coaches are instructional coaches considered teachers

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and as far as i know um they don't have classrooms so if they're if they are considered as a teacher

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then that would actually you know help the ratio go down because they don't

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have any students in in their classrooms they're just there to I guess support

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the rest of the staff in that department and part of that question is also I

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would like to know how many instructional coaches if you don't know

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this answer that's okay I can find out per you know like junior high high

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high school and also and do they get paid more so on the on the instructional

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coaches they are on the teacher step I don't have the total number of

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instructional coaches you know that we have in the district right now I do have

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that you know we're adding about seven you know for 19-20 or that that's in the

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request as far as dyslexia we we do have department meetings and we do talk about

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dyslexia teachers specifically and that is part of the staffing plan okay

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Okay, and the number of students required to take a specific course,

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that's probably some information we'd have to get back with you.

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I think it's probably going to depend, to make it cost effective would depend on the course,

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whether it was a CTE course or what it might be.

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So I can't give you that number right now directly.

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Since Mr. Schuss has only been here for about 60 days, I'm going to bail him out on these.

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But next year in the springtime, they're all his.

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No, a couple things. They're good questions, Mr. Champagne.

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Required to offer, we don't have a minimum as in required to offer.

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Those are going to be campus-based and campus-set, like you talked with Mr. Stocks.

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Fifteen is a pretty good round number we try to use, but once again, it's going to be dependent on your master schedule.

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It's also going to be dependent on what type of course it is, an elective versus something that might be more required.

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And I'll give you a good example of that.

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let's say it's a CTE type course in a sequence that they that the student

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needs for their foundational diploma and if they need that we're going to offer

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it and that might be meaning to drop down the number a little bit to make

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sure those kids get that as part of their diploma process of a course that

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they might have chosen but if it's just a random elective that we might not

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offer that year but what most principals do is they put those on a two-year cycle

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So over the course of your time in high school between grades 9 and 12, something would be offered every other year to ensure it quote unquote makes as a class.

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And so kids would get an opportunity to have that class sometime during their high school career when you have to do that.

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The other one you brought up was about the instructional coaches.

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I'm going to put Dr. Kasky on the spot, and I bet she knows that number off the top of her head.

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Total number, it's around 198, but you asked per campus.

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So at the elementary level, can you hear me?

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Okay, at the elementary level, each elementary campus has two instructional coaches, one that supports math and science and the other supports ELA and social studies.

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At the high school campus, each campus has four for each of the four content areas.

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And at the junior high level, most have four, some have three because they split a social studies.

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Per content.

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No, only four.

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Yeah, some have three and some have four at the junior high level because some split.

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Four.

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Per content.

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So there's one math, one science, one social studies, and then one ELA.

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Yes, ma'am.

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Did we hit them all on there, Ms. Champagne?

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Did we miss any?

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Well, I'm just wondering, are the instructional coaches,

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so they are considered as a teacher, so they would be in the same unit as the teachers,

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but they don't have any actual students.

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So I'm just making the point that they're going to help bring down the ratio of that, too.

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and also do they get paid a little bit more you're correct that they are coded

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as a teacher and they don't have students assigned to them per class role

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and they are funded on the teacher salary scale anyone else okay thank you

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so much thank you agenda item 5.5 consider future board approval of the

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instructional materials allotment I am a update sorry let me go ahead and jump in

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there there was a two part to the staffing and mr. Schuss had the first

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part and special ed was going to give you a short presentation on special

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special education and then.

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Okay, I'm sorry it went on my.

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That's okay.

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I don't.

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It was only mine.

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I'm not sure why it was.

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Oh, I see it's behind.

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Okay, I realize.

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Okay.

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Thank you.

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Thank you President Doyle, Board members, and Superintendent Grogarski.

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The Special Education Department presented to the Board on October 15, 2018 to discuss

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the growth of special education students, and the Board of Trustees granted the Department

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additional special ed units to provide for campus needs at that time.

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We want to thank the Board for that support.

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We are here this evening to discuss the continued growth of special education numbers in the

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district and to articulate the reasons why this extraordinary growth is occurring.

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In order to better understand the context regarding the growth of special education

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in KDISD, it is important to speak about the current reality of special education in the

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state of Texas and nationally.

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As you can see, the orange line representing national trends in special education, and

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please note that the national data is two years behind lagging what Texas has in their

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data.

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and then you have the Texas data that is in the blue line. We were basically kind

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of tracking along together but in 2004 you'll see a dip in Texas going down

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with the numbers in Texas for special ed going down at that point having a drop

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off. So TEA has identified the likely reason for the drop off as

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coinciding with the Congress's reauthorization of the Individuals with

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Disabilities Education Act of 2004. At that time a provision of the IDEA Act

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was clarified to explain the use of response to intervention or RTI as part

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part of the ongoing effort to ensure interventions were being provided in general education instead

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of automatically referring kids to special education first.

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The Texas Education Agency put forth a very robust response to intervention model containing

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guidance relative to how to intervene with struggling learners and when to consider a

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special ed. referral under child fine.

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In the last year, the federal government, through the Office of Special Education Programs,

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has partnered with the Texas Education Agency to rework the guidance regarding when to implement

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child find procedures so the Texas Education Agency has developed a

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strategic action plan the purpose of which is to reimagine the way districts

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implement child find regulations and how the state supports that implementation

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there are five specific components to the strategic plan however we would like

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to discuss the child find component which is the requirement under idea and

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which is to identify evaluate and locate students requiring special education

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SERVICES. SO THERE WAS SIGNIFICANT EVIDENCE HAS BEEN PLACED ON THE

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CHILDFINE PIECE OF THE TEXAS EDUCATION PLAN AS GUIDANCE AND OVERSIGHT THAT HAS

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CHANGED. THE TEXAS EDUCATION AGENCY PREVIOUSLY PLACED AN 8.5% CAP ON

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SPECIAL EDUCATION STUDENTS IN SCHOOL DISTRICTS. THIS WAS DESIGNED TO PROVIDE

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AN ESTIMATION TO HELP ENSURE STUDENTS WERE NOT BEING OVER IDENTIFIED FOR

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SPECIAL EDUCATION PROGRAMS. INTERVENTIONS UNDER RTI LABEL WERE

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ENCOURAGED TO ENSURE STUDENTS WERE RECEIVING SOLID INSTRUCTIONAL

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components in general education. TA has since abolished the idea of 8.5% cap and has replaced

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the cap with the firm expectation that all students will be assessed if there's a suspicion

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of a disability exists and that specially designed instruction is needed.

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The Office of Special Education Services also noted that some students receiving

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Section 504 and or dyslexia services which are provided through general education may in fact

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requires special education services. Texas is one of the few states that

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serves students with dyslexia under 504 instead of through special education. So

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now that we reviewed the state data and discussed the TEA Strategic Action Plan

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as the primary driver of special education growth in the state of Texas,

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let's discuss how these pieces are impacting KDISD. Gwen Coffey will take

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you through the next slides in the presentation. Good evening. So what we

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we wanted to present for you tonight was a picture of what KD special education

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enrollment looks like in comparison to national trends to state trends and from

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several different angles. This first slide is similar to the slide Dr.

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Malachek referenced at the beginning of the presentation. The national trend is

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what is in blue and as he indicated lags behind. Texas is orange and KD ISD is in

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the gray and so as you see if you go back to 2004 which is when this begins

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you see that all of them kind of take that dip and then KDISD starts to come back up and

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actually surpasses the Texas overall Texas line.

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This slide

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depicts historical KDISD special education enrollment numbers and it details two important points in time.

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The one in blue

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reflects the overall enrollment and special education at the October PEMS

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snapshot which is usually the last Friday in October it's when the district

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reports demographic and other information to the state for a snapshot

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picture so for example if you look at the 2017-2018 the blue number is 7803 so

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on the snapshot day in October that is how many students during the 2017-2018

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school year we had enrolled in special education. The orange line depicts the

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end of the year numbers. So how many did we have on the last day when we stopped

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serving students for that year during the regular school year? And that number

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was 8,400. So between the end of October and the end of the school year in 2017-

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2018 we added, what is that approximately 603 students. For 2018 we have projected

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those numbers the blue line is a solid number we reported to PEMS 8,647

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students on the snapshot day in October of this year of course we've not reached

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the end of the year yet but when we look at the number of students that we do

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currently have and serve in special education the number of active referrals

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we have in our overall eligibility rate we project that by the end of the year

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we will be around 10,500 students applying those same kind of predictions

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We have guesstimated as best we can with predictions what that snapshot number will look like in October of 2019.

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And we are projecting 10,984 students.

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I do want to note that Child Find is, there's a large degree of emphasis being placed on Child Find by the Texas Education Agency in partnership with the Office of Special Education Programs.

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programs. KDIC has always implemented Child Plan fully. We have tested students who have

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needed it and that is why in the previous slide you saw that trend line be above the

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state. We did not embrace that 8.5 percent indicator. We tested students as needed. So

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I do want to note that. This next slide is a different way to depict our students. What

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you see in blue is the percentage of special education students and what you see in orange

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is KDIC overall enrollment for that year. So in the 2017-2018 school year we were

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at 10.8 percent, special education represented 10.8 percent of overall KD

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enrollment. We have again projected for the 18-19 as we don't know the end of

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the year we projected both numbers based on our predictions we believe will be at

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about 12.8 percent and by the end of next year and this is going out of ways

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we think we could be up to 15%. I do want to note if you look historically we're

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at about 1, we have a 0.5, then we have a 0.8, so it is has been kind of

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going up slightly each year and we think there's a variety of reasons for that

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but as you can see in the 2018-2019 school year we have experienced

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significantly more growth than in other school years. Why is that happening? Well

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Dr. Malachek referenced most of the reasons primarily I think that it has to

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to do with the new guidance that's been released by the Texas Education Agency, again in partnership

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with the Office of Special Education Programs, regarding the implementation of Child Find.

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As a result of that, and I know that Ms. Champagne asked this earlier, we do have, we can serve

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students in dyslexia both in general education and in special education, but we have received

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some updated guidance in regards to when that decision should be made. That has made some

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changes. In addition, moving other students who may have been previously served through 504 or

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response to intervention which Katie had a very robust program in both of those

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areas and continues to do so into special education because child find has

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become a predominant area of emphasis parents are more aware which is a very

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positive piece we're getting lots more early childhood referrals and getting

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students into that pipeline for early intervention services but those students

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are being tested and being qualified and served and then addition to just new

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referrals and move-ins to the district.

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So what do we do now that we've had all this growth?

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So we've been talking about staffing, and this slide depicts the requested campus staffing

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for teachers and paraprofessionals at both the elementary and the secondary levels.

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And we, you know, increased staffing is required at this point and needed to ensure that students

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are provided with the quality instructional opportunities, and it's to help relieve our

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current teachers who are experiencing higher than normal caseloads.

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and we want to ensure that we are providing students with those quality

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interventions and strategies so we're asking for a net total for teachers of

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64 that does include 10 reserve units that in case we add students over the

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summer and some of those predictions and a net increase in paraprofessionals of

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83 campus that's a campus assessment staffing I do want to note that these

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These are individuals that directly serve students on the campus.

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And the request for those specific positions is noted on these, or are noted on this slide.

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Assessment staff are responsible for assessing all students.

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They don't only serve our special education students, depending upon the area of suspected disability.

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Students are, all students are assessed.

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And so, and they also provide critical ongoing services, such as speech therapy, counseling as a related service, and the IEP development and provision.

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They are also carrying extremely heavy caseloads right now and increasing staff in these areas will ensure that staff are able to provide needed supports to students.

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We did want to include this slide in order to offer a historical perspective about what the board has granted in the past in regards to special education staffing.

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So what you see here is on the left we have the school years, of course, and then these are in units.

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So I know we don't have, you know, 404.86 teachers, but when you look at the units and the next column shows you the increase from the prior year.

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So as you can see just in teachers over the last several years, we've been in 2016-17, it was 29.56, and then 17-18 was a higher number, 42.32 and so on.

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And these show you for teachers, for paraprofessionals, for campus speech pathologists, LSSPs, diagnostic specialists, diagnostic clerks, and ARD facilitators.

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And our facilitators are a relatively new position that we piloted, well it's very new, we piloted it this year and found that it was very successful in a way to efficiently organize and operate from the special education perspective.

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So we're looking to increase that next year to gain even further efficiency in that area.

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Okay, so that concludes our formal presentation, but we are happy to answer any questions that you may have.

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Thank you. Are there any questions?

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Mr. Scott.

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Are these full-time staff positions?

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Yes, sir.

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employees of KTISD. All right, so if the board wanted to say that's just too much

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and we want you to come back with 50% fewer employees, would you describe the

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state and federal regulations that may come in to apply if we were to do that?

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Yes, sir. So the IDEA is federal legislation that indicates that when a

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student has a disability, a suspected disability, and requires specially

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designed instruction and our committee that is made up of specific members

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meets to determine the interventions and programming that are needed in order to

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successfully educate the student we are required to do that it's not optional

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and the committee looks at the individualized needs of the student

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which can be why special ed is so very difficult sometimes to understand

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because literally every child's IEP looks different once the art committee

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agrees to that we are required to provide those services and can be held

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liable if we do not. All right, second, there are contracted services I think

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the Harris County Department of Education we use the district a lot of

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districts use consultants that are employees of the Harris County Education

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Department whatever they're called now. Is there any option to not add to the

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employee staff and to use that service? We currently contract our occupational

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physical and music therapists through the Harris County Department of

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Education. That is the program that we have elected to use rather than offering

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full-time positions because we find that it is more economically feasible and

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more appropriate for our students that require those services. We do also, when

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we are unable to fill specific positions, offer contracted services in certain

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areas. We find overwhelmingly that it is more expensive in the majority of these

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positions that we have looked at tonight. It is overwhelmingly more expensive to

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do that through contracted services than to hire them. Plus it would be truthful

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to say that the Department of Ed is not really an elastic operation is it so the

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bottom line to these questions is basically this this is something that we

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pretty much have to do to come into compliance with all state federal

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regulations statutes and administrative fair yes sir I agree with that statement

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Are there any other questions?

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Ms. Champagne?

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Yes, Madam President.

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Thank you very much.

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I have a couple of questions.

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First of all, the ARD facilitator, I can see how that would be a benefit to the program.

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And I'd also like to state that I'm really proud of Katy ISD for the wonderful special education that you all help facilitate.

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I have many friends whose children are in the program.

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But I wanted to see, first of all, are those people, are they, so they're traveling between campuses?

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Yes, currently we have two positions and they are piloted positions. We wanted to try it out, make sure that it was effective.

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And they do, they travel within tracks. So they end up supporting the same families.

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And we do try to keep it that way. It can't always work perfectly, but yes, ma'am, they do travel.

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And so this year we're going to add 14 or 14 more or 12 more?

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I think it's 12.

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12 more.

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Okay, 12 more.

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So we're going to have a total of 14.

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Yes, ma'am.

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And so, okay, so you see that that is a benefit to help the other people that are in,

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the other adults that are leading the special ed programs

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and helping them facilitate those meetings and such.

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Yes, ma'am.

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Okay, and then the other question I have is are you all aware of this?

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this may be off topic a little bit, but there is a pilot program going on in HISD with dyslexia

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that they have hired teachers to travel between schools.

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Do you know about this?

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I actually have a friend that's in this.

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It's a two-year pilot program, and the teacher is traveling between different schools.

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They're assigned schools, probably like this R person kind of,

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but they tutor children for an hour at a time with dyslexia.

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And I was just wondering if either of you would be interested in following up, you know,

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looking at what they're doing just to see if that's a possible thing that we could do maybe one day.

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Yes, I think one of the things about KDISD that is exceptional is that we're always interested in seeing

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what other people are doing and ensuring that we are providing cutting-edge instruction.

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Okay, because I know HISD has just started that this year.

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And I think that the dyslexia department and I know special education would both be interested in hearing more.

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Ms. Fox.

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Ms. How many dyslexia teachers do we have?

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Don't we have one just about everywhere?

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Ms. We, most campuses have at least one and I'm not, they're not necessarily mine

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but I'm going to answer that question, do my best and somebody will correct me.

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Most campuses will have at least one at the elementary level.

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Some elementaries have a greater number because they're allocated based on the number of

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students in dyslexia.

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At the secondary level, there's more variance in that because the type of service that's provided is not necessarily the same because of where they are in their education.

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I appreciate always good ideas and best practices in between.

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Yes, ma'am.

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But when she said a dyslexia teacher that travels, I thought, well, they're full-time and full and they're busy, busy people certainly at our elementary campuses.

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Yes, ma'am.

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I have a question. At what grade level do we begin testing for special ed?

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Is it my understanding that, like, kinder and first, we don't really identify at that level?

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We begin prior to that.

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So three years old, getting at three.

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So we have a three-year-old coming to the program that needs early childhood services.

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We have to provide from three to 21.

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So there could be children that are coming.

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Once we have a rule, three is three, that we have to test them by the time they turn three years old.

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So we have kids coming into our programs at 3 and on going up so all the way to 21.

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And how have they identified the ones that will be tested? Is it a teacher that identifies?

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Can a parent request? All of the above. A teacher can request.

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Possibly a physician may say that, you know, some things are deficits maybe need to consider going and calling

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Katie and asking for support. And I would guess that those

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the process would be rigorous enough that it's not that we don't identify a

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child too soon and label too soon but it but it they teachers would be able to

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corroborate with the parent that yes we're seeing deficiencies and be able to

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get help as early as possible but not get them into a track that maybe has a

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something that might just be maybe age appropriate or developmental or right so you have all of that

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covered yes ma'am we do it really well but I wanted to bring that up and so they they fill

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out a form yes please test and they get in line and then we hire people that test all the time

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right those are some of the people that you had on that list I see that need what does an art

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facilitator do? I've never heard about that and that's very interesting.

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Yeah, that's a great question. So ARD facilitators facilitate ARDs where no

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assessment is being discussed. So for example, if a student has an updated

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assessment that a diagnostician performed, let's say, the diagnostician

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would facilitate that ARD because they would need to be knowledgeable and be

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able to discuss and talk about the new and updated assessment information,

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how that might impact the student's individualized education program. But

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But many times, because the ARD, ARD stands for admission, review, and dismissal.

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So in that review piece right there where we're not necessarily putting them in

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and maybe we don't have new assessment or new eligibilities to consider,

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we're only required to assess every three years in an area.

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And so if that's not happening, then an ARD facilitator is able to facilitate

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the development of the plan with the consensus ARD members.

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So it frees our DAGs up to do more testing.

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Right?

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Yes.

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I love that.

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So what kind of qualifications do ARD facilitators have? Do you have something specific?

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Well, as we do for all positions in special education, we provide very specialized training for them, and they're overseen and work with our diagnosticians very closely.

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We do request that they, or we prefer that they have a special education certification.

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And many times our ARD facilitators are special ed teachers who are also in a diagnostic cohort.

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So they're learning to become diagnosticians and so they have the benefit of that instruction alongside the benefit of the special education knowledge.

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That's excellent. So does it do teachers participate in the art or is it so if a if a child is receiving more than one service,

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would with the dyslexia teacher come and the special ed teacher?

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and are they all a part of the ARD or is that up to a campus principal or does everyone

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come and participate?

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It is required that we have general education representation as well as special education

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representation and KDISD does work very diligently to ensure that if there are any related services

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if a student is in for example academic support or dyslexia or potentially going maybe to

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a social skills group that people who can speak to their progress and success in those

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areas are also present so that the ARD committee has a 360 degree picture of

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the student parents are present and provide meaningful input and we talk

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about all of the different sides and facets of a student in that ARD meeting

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when determining their program. That's great. I hear over and over like Mrs.

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Champaign and everyone the gratitude from so many of our families who receive

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special ed services and they're just so grateful you know of the progress that

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that boys and girls are making because of the work that your teachers do.

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So I appreciate that.

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I have an add-on question, Madam President, that is maybe for Mr. Schuss or maybe probably

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Mr. Gorgorski.

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We didn't talk about growth units when we had the presentation and I just wanted to

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– is this the time when we're going to see how many growth units you're going to

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ask us for?

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I know sometimes we run out of them and sometimes we don't use them all.

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Did you have a –

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We didn't specifically build the growth units for general education into this budget staffing

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request for tonight.

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This is just the campus part, but when we get to the final budget and we have yet to

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put into our budget departmental staffing, I want to see what that looks like and then

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we'll know a better number of what we can come up with.

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But there will be some general ed units built into there just like there is some special

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education ones.

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And all of the numbers they've talked about tonight are built into what Mr. Schuss had shared with us.

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All that's part of one big package.

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I bet 10 is not going to be enough there.

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Okay, Mr. Schuss, I'm coming for you when you bring the big numbers.

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Okay, thank you.

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Thank you so much for your presentation.

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I just have one more.

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I'm sorry.

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Real quick, I just have one more.

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Can children go, so they've gotten on to special ed, but can they come off of special ed?

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Yes, ma'am.

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That is one of our major goals.

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I just feel like I need to make the point that in my numbers that I showed earlier,

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it did reflect an increase in revenue based on the enrollment growth that you're seeing in special ed.

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So there is a revenue associated with the request of the units,

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and I wanted to make sure that that was clear.

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Thank you.

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Thank you so much.

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Agenda item 5.5.

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Consider future board approval of the Instructional Materials Allotment IMA update and Texas Essential

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Knowledge and Skills Take Certification.

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Dr. Kasky.

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Great.

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Good evening, President Doyle, board members, and Mr. Gorkorsky.

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I'm pleased to be here this evening to provide our annual update on our Instructional Materials

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Allotment this evening.

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As you may recall, in 2011, the Texas legislature passed Senate Bill 6, and they did that to

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to create the instructional materials allotment fund

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from the existing state textbook fund

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and also the technology allotment fund.

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And this was done to provide school districts

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increased flexibility in what we can purchase

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to support our instructional programs,

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including beyond the textbook, supplemental materials,

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technology equipment, and computer software, for example.

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It's important to note that this fund,

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we receive these funds on a biannual basis,

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and it's also based on our per pupil on a per pupil amount and I'll get back to

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that in just a second just to reiterate that our KDIAC curriculum is not does

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not rely solely on a textbook but as you enter into our classrooms you will see

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teachers and students using a variety of instructional materials including online

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resources literature libraries technology printed materials and other

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hands-on learning tools within our classrooms. This slide depicts our

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timeline for selection of our instructional materials in this most

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recent proclamation. In September we formulated our instructional materials

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review committees. In November and December those committees met to narrow

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down their choices to the top three or four selections. In January we solicited

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feedback from our teachers and also from our community. Those committees then

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reconvened in February to make final recommendations which I'm bringing

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forward for your approval this evening. Our largest adoption was at probably at

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the elementary level looking at K through 5 our ELA adoption and you'll

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see here a number of resources listed not one single textbook but a number of

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resources to support our elementary teachers as they teach our ELA TEKS.

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Again, in support of our elementary ELA program for our bilingual campuses, we also have a

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companion to that.

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That would be our Spanish adoption.

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At the secondary level, we also are bringing forward recommendations for our ELA courses

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in grades six through eight and our personal financial literacy course, which is a high

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school elective.

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So looking at our expenditures and our instructional materials allotment, we are expected to expend

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about $9.5 million over the 2019-2020 school year.

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Our current balance on our IMA account is a little over $7 million, which puts us in

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the red at $2.4 million.

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But as you recall, this is a biennial budget.

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So in September of 2019, we're anticipating that we're going to receive an additional

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$12 million.

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dollars so Chris Smith we work closely with him and his team and they float us

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a little loan for that and then come September we'll replenish that so we're

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looking at a positive of about 10 million also as part of this

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presentation we are required annually to certify to the State Board and also the

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Commissioner that each of our courses and our instructional materials are

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aligned to the teaks so that paperwork is in your board packet as well and then

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looking at our upcoming proclamations as you know this is a budget that we have to watch carefully

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but looking at our upcoming proclamations we feel confident that we'll have the budget available to

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support our instructional needs so this was a heavy year this year we also have a heavy year

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next year so next year we're looking at our high school english courses and also we're looking at

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grade 7 through 12 our ela courses for english language learners in 2020-21 it's a lighter year

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with health and physical education and pre-kindergarten.

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Then we'll have another heavy year looking at K-12 science

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and then the health and science and STEM component of our career and technical education courses.

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And then you'll see we have another light year with technology applications

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and then two more strands in our CTE program.

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And that concludes my formal presentation.

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If you have any questions, I'm here.

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Some of our committee chairs are here as well this evening.

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Thank you, Dr. Kasky.

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Board members, do we have any questions?

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Madam President, I do of course.

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Would you go back to the slide that has all the cost on it please?

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First question is how many courses are we able to get away from like a really hard copy,

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the kind of textbook that we grew up with?

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I would say the majority of those.

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However, there's a caveat there.

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So what most of this all what most of the textbook companies will do is they'll give us a class set of textbooks and then

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They'll give us a subscription online

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So it's really the textbook companies have really started to marry that hard copy with an online subscription

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All right, am I right guys? Yes, do yes, they're saying sort of right we use those hard copies very often

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More so classroom sets high school level probably more so than at the elementary

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entry they're shaking their heads yes they that children go and actually pick up one of those

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antique books they'll find with the cover on it and the pages that turn so my question is the

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software license renewal and growth i mean that's a huge number i'm wondering if that is um just

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just are we are we paying let me see if i can formulate this question are we are we careful

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that once when when we get something new we delete the old and we're not paying

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for subscriptions we no longer use you know sometimes it just goes and you know

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I've got my Spotify and I'm not really using it but it's charging my credit

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card every month right we do so we work closely with instructional technology I

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know darling is sitting here going yes yes we do review the usage of our

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software on an annual basis and we make really critical you know considerations

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when we look at this budget we work hand in hand with Darlene and her budget

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because a lot of the software sits in that budget as well.

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Okay.

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If it's tied to an adoption,

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then we have to sometimes renew that subscription for the life of that adoption

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until we come up on a new proclamation.

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So that's what some of these are, is it was part of proclamation.

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So, therefore, we're kind of tied into that software for a number of years.

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But we do review those.

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Schools are going to have some high usages.

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Some have low usages.

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We do eliminate programs where we see across the board low usages.

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just I like the paying attention to that so I see k5 3.5 million and then I see

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the software license 3.3 are those those are not duplicates in any way or they're

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charging us for the book and then they charge us a license fee to know those

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are all right you need me sitting over here huh is that correct or do you need

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separate allocation right so if we have a software allocation that's based on a

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per pupil amount based on growth that we have to add that we have to add those

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licenses same things with textbooks opening new campuses we have to allot

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for growth so they don't give us a class set of software and then we repeat it

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seven times through the day no they charge us per pupil that's the big

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expense. So if you add students, they add a cost even though you're really just using this. I see what they did there. That's why the numbers are so big. That makes more sense. Thank you. Thank you, Dr. Caskey. Agenda item 5.6, consider future board approval of the legal policies and adoption of the local policies included in board policy update 112. Ms. Holland, welcome.

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Good evening Madam President, members of the board, Superintendent Gorgorski.

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In accordance with board policies BF Legal and Local, the policies in update 112 are

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being presented for the board's approval and or adoption at the regular board meeting next

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Monday night.

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This particular update includes 43 legal policies that have been impacted by either administrative

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administrative rules are decisions by the Commissioner of Education.

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There are also 15 local policies that are included in the update that are being aligned to the legal policies that are under consideration.

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Several of the local policies involve reorganization to create a better flow of information within the policy,

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and then there are some of those policies that have been reorganized for greater accessibility by individuals with disabilities.

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In several of the cases, you've noted in your review that policy language has been coded, recoded from one code to another,

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but the policy language has remained the same.

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The administrators in each of the major divisions of the administration have reviewed the policies in update 112 to ensure that we are implementing the requirements and taking appropriate actions.

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In addition to update 112, the administration is asking that the board consider a recommendation

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to revise the language in the board policy at FDB local on intra-district transfers.

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The only change that is being requested in that particular policy is to change the timeline

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timeline for considering intra-district applications and making decisions about those requests.

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Currently the policy says that we have five business days in which to make those decisions.

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But with the volume of applications that are being received, we are requesting that that

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language be changed to read ten business days in order to make a decision.

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And we think that is a much more realistic timeline than the one that we currently have.

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If there are any questions, I'll be happy to try to entertain those at this time.

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Do we have any questions?

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Madam President.

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Mr. Lacey.

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Ms. Holland, about how many, you mentioned the number of inter-district transfers.

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About how many do we have?

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How many inter-district transfers do you think you've processed, Dr. Creech?

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This year.

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I couldn't hear you. I'm sorry.

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She said 3,400.

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hundred yes that's far a little over and you're increasing yes thank you miss

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Holland anyone else okay thank you 5.7 consider future board approval of the

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contract for replacement of the roof skylights at Cinco Ranch High School

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mr. T and you're with us for the next five agenda items so I'm gonna let you

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you just roll through those.

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Good evening, President Doyle, Superintendent Gworski, and board members.

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It's recommended that the Board of Trustees awards the contract for the replacement of the roof skylights

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at Cinco Ranch High to Atlas Universal, Inc. in the amount of $495,605.

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I'm sorry, $495,605.

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utilizing the Choice Partners Contract 18-060-JN-01

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and approves the total project cost not to exceed $538,446.78.

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The replacement of the skylight systems at Cinco Ranch High School

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is part of the 2017 Bond Component Replacements Program.

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District staff worked with BEAM professionals

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to develop the project scope and contract documents.

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Atlas Universal has successfully completed previous projects in the district and similar sized projects for neighboring school districts.

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Work will commence on June 1, 2019 and is scheduled for completion by September 15, 2019.

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Work will be scheduled around campus activities.

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The total not to exceed project cost includes the engineering cost and a small owner's contingency for any of the unforeseen issues.

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A copy of the proposal from Beam Professionals for Services and the proposal from Atlas Universal, Inc. are attached for your review.

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Project funding source, again, is the 2017 bond component replacements.

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Skylight replacement cost, $495,605.

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Beam engineering cost, $17,841.78.

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Owner's contingency, $25,000.

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for a total not-to-exceed project cost of $538,446.78.

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The contract has been reviewed by District Legal Counsel and approved as to form.

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Are there any questions?

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Madam President.

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Mr. Lacey.

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I know that this is the first of the design that we had, Cinco Ranch was, of that building design,

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and there were several other schools that were built after using that similar design.

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sign. Is this something that we should put in our budgets or just kind of plan on? Yes, sir. In the future? Yes, sir. Okay. Go ahead with 5.8. It's recommended that the Board of Trustees awards a contract for the 2019 lighting upgrade project at various campuses to E3 Integral Solutions, Inc. in the amount of $873,431, utilizing RFP number 1827.

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and approves the total project cost not to exceed $1,144,431.

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The upgrade of the interior and exterior campus lighting at these identified campuses

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is part of the 2017 bond component program.

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District staff worked with CMTA Engineering to develop the project scope and contract documents.

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A total of two contractors responded to the request for proposal,

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and after evaluation, the decision was made to award to E3 Integral Solutions, Inc.

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as scoring the highest in providing the best value to the district.

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The existing lighting will be replaced with LED retrofits of the interior lighting fixtures

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and replacement of the exterior fixtures.

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Work will commence with the award of the project and is scheduled for completion by August 1, 2019.

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The work will be coordinated with the various campuses to limit any interference with campus

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activities.

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The total project cost includes the engineering cost and an owner's contingency for any unforeseen

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issues.

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A copy of the CMTA proposal for services, recommendation letter, evaluation tabulation,

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and contract AIA documents are attached for your review.

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The project funding source again was the 2017 bond component replacements.

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campus lighting upgrade cost $873,431, CMTA engineering cost $96,000, owner contingency $175,000.

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For a total not to exceed project cost of $1,144,431.

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This contract also has been reviewed by district council and approved as to form.

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Are there any questions?

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5.9.

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It's recommended that the Board of Trustees awards the contract for the replacement of the field lighting at Rhodes Stadium to LECS in the amount of $665,012.69,

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utilizing the Choice Partners Contract 18-036MC-05

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and approves the total project cost not to exceed $679,012.69.

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The replacement of the field lighting at Rhodes Stadium is necessary

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due to the inability to obtain replacement parts and bulbs for the current system.

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District staff work with PBK Sports to develop the project scope

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code and contract documents.

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The lighting will be replaced with LED lighting

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adherent to our current district lighting

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standards for athletic fields.

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Work will commence with the award of the project

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and is scheduled for completion by August the 15th, 2019.

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The work will be coordinated with the athletics department

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to limit any conflicts with field use

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during the construction.

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The total not to exceed project cost

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includes engineering cost and a small owner's contingency for any unforeseen

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issues a copy of the PBK sports proposal for services and the proposal from LECS

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are attached for your review the project funding source again 2014 bond savings

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field lighting replacement costs six hundred sixty five thousand twelve

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dollars and sixty nine cents PBK sports engineering cost seven thousand dollars

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owner contingency $7,000. Not to exceed project cost $679,012.69.

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This contract has also been reviewed by District Legal Counsel and approved as to form.

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Are there any questions?

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Madam President.

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Mr. Lacey.

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I understand that we are able to use the standards that we currently have there, correct?

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Yes, sir.

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Just for fun, if we would have had to have replaced those, do you have a ballpark estimate of how much just those standards would have been?

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It would have doubled the cost.

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Wow.

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That's amazing.

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One other question on this.

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I know that the lighting is not really good in the parking lot at Rhodes, especially when you look at the parking lot that we have at Legacy.

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Is this design going to have something showing out for safety and for safety reasons to have some illumination in the parking lot there?

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Yes, sir.

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On the existing standards, we are going to put what they call a security light that will backlight towards the parking lot for safety and security for egress.

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Good.

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Thank you.

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Madam President.

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Mr. Scott.

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During my math, it looks like PBK is going to take about 1% of the cost for the contract.

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Yes, sir.

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Wow.

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I served three years.

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I'm about to go out the door and I get to say something nice about PBK.

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Who would have thought?

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Agenda item 5.10.

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It's recommended that the Board of Trustees awards the contract for the 2019

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life safety and special systems upgrades at multiple campuses to Ansel O'Brien

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construction LTD in the amount of $1,756,000 utilizing the competitive

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steel proposal method and improves the total project costs not to exceed

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$1,847,200. The upgrade of the life safety systems at these

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identified campuses is part of the 2017 bond component replacements and safety

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and security improvements programs. District staff work with Salus O'Brien

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engineering to develop the project scope and contract documents. A total of five

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contractors responded to the request for proposal and after evaluation the

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decision was made to award to the highest scoring contractor Ansel O'Brien

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Construction LTD. Work will commence with the award of the project and is

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scheduled for completion by July 26, 2019. The work will be coordinated with the

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various campuses to limit any interference with campus activities. The

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The total project cost includes the engineering cost, very small owner's contingency for any unforeseen issues,

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a copy of the Salas O'Brien proposal for services, the recommendation letter, evaluation tabulation,

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and AIA contracts are attached for your review.

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The project funding source, the 2017 bond component replacements, package A, Jim Sound reinforcement,

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reinforcement, Beckendorf Junior High project cost is $111,000.

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Cinco Ranch Junior High project cost $114,000.

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Salis O'Brien engineering cost $7,700 with an owner's

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contingency of $1,000.

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Second project funding source is the 2017 Bond Safety and

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Security Improvements, package B, elevator code updates, Cinco

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Mexico Ranch High Project Cost $221,000.

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May Creek High Project Cost $141,000.

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Package C, Generator Replacements,

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Alexander Elementary Project Cost $77,000.

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Williams Elementary Project Cost $76,000.

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McMeans Junior High Project Cost $143,000.

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In Package D, fire alarm and PA replacements.

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Alexander Elementary project cost $282,000.

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Williams Elementary project cost $261,000.

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McMeans Junior High project cost $80,000.

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Alternate number one, the emergency power expansion.

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Alexander Elementary project cost $126,000.

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Williams Elementary $124,000.

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The Salis O'Brien engineering cost was $76,000.

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Owner's contingency was $6,500.

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And again, the total not to exceed project cost, $1,847,200.

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This contract has also been reviewed by District Legal Counsel and approved as to form.

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Are there any questions?

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Ms. Chazan.

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Thank you.

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I would like to know what is a Jim Sound reinforcement?

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It's the PA system in the gymnasium competition gym.

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So that's $111,000 at a junior high. Okay. Just was asking. Thank you.

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Any other questions?

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Okay. One more.

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It's recommended that the Board of Trustees awards a contract for replacement of portions of concrete pavement at the support services complex

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complex to Brunner Route in the amount of $1,080,026, utilizing the national IPA contract

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number R160402, and approves the total project cost not to exceed $1,170,026.

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The replacement of portions of the concrete pavement at Support Services Complex is necessary

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due to the failing base creating unsafe driving conditions and damage to our vehicle fleet.

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District staff work with PBK Architects to develop the project scope and contract documents.

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Work will commence with the award of the project and is scheduled for completion by August 15, 2019.

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Work will be coordinated with transportation and other departments working at the site

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to limit any conflicts with traffic flow during the construction.

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The total not to exceed project cost includes the engineering cost, materials testing, and

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an owner's contingency for any unforeseen issues.

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A copy of the proposal from PBK Architects for Services.

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The proposal from Brown and Root are attached for review.

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Again, the project funding source is 2014 bond savings.

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Pavement replacement cost is $1,080,026.

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$126.00. PBK engineering costs $64,802.00. Owners contingency $25,198.00. For a total not to exceed project costs $1,170,026.00. And this project has also been reviewed by District Legal Counsel and approved as to form.

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Are there any questions?

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Okay. Thank you so much.

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Thank you.

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Agenda item 5.12, consider future board approval of a proposal for the construction of elementary school number 43.

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Ms. Kastman.

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Good evening, President Doyle, Board of Trustees, and Mr. Grigorski.

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Tonight I'm bringing three items for your consideration.

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The first two are construction contracts for Elementary 43 and the kitchen work at Cinco Ranch High School, Cinco Ranch Junior High, including floral coolers at multiple campuses.

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Both these contracts use the competitive seal proposal delivery method as approved by the Board in December 2017.

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The CSP method is one of the delivery methods outlined in the Texas Government Code 2269, which awards a project based on best value for the district.

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This method includes evaluation of designated criteria, which includes price, experience and reputation of the contractor, the quality of the services, the safety record, proposed personnel, financial capability, and then the past relationship with the district.

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The first item is the recommendation that the Board of Trustees awards a contract to

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Dramala Construction Company for the construction of Elementary 43 in the amount of $24,796,000

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and approves the total project costs not to exceed $31,682,772.

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Construction of this school is required to accommodate elementary school enrollment growth

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in the rapidly growing northwest quadrant of the district and will open in August 2020.

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Seal proposals were received on February 21st for the school, which will be located in the Ellison subdivision.

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Six seal proposals were received, with Jemala ranking first overall.

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Jemala has successfully completed projects within KDISD, including elementaries and junior highs.

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The project team includes KDISD project manager Megan Connell, VOK Architects, as well as Jemala.

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Are there any questions?

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Okay, go ahead to the next item.

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The second item is the recommendation that the Board of Trustees

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awards a contract to Madison Construction LP for the renovation of the serving lines

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at Cinco Ranch High School, Total Kitchen, and serving line renovation at Cinco Ranch Junior High

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and the installation of floral coolers at Cinco Ranch, Morton Ranch, Seven Lakes,

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and Tompkins High Schools in the amount of $3,036,000 and the total

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project cost not to exceed $3,758,882.

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Seal proposals were received on February 14th and Madison Construction

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ranked overall of the four that we received. Project team includes KDISD

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project manager Art Campbell, Stantec Architects, as well as Madison

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in construction. Are there any questions? Agenda item 5.14. The final item is the

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recommendation that the Board of Trustees enters into a joint

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participation into local agreement with Harris County for sidewalk construction.

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Subsequent to the completion of Pato High School and Stockdick Junior High, it

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was determined by Harris County that the sidewalks along Peak Road from Grand

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Vantana to Stockdick School Road need to be reconstructed to accommodate roadwork

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in this area. KDISD will contribute $75,000 to this project as outlined in the agreement.

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Ms. Are there any questions? All right. Thank you.

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Ms. Thank you.

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Ms. Next, we'll move to agenda item 5.15, consider future board approval of a

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proclamation for National Library Week. I will go ahead and read the proclamation.

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National Library Week. Whereas libraries have long served as trusted and

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treasured institutions and library workers and media specialists fuel

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efforts to better their communities, campuses, and schools through the power

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of reading. And whereas library media specialists are organizers and

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information experts who for centuries have guided people to the best

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information resources. Librarians provide more than facts. They provide the

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expertise and services that add meaning to those facts. And whereas library media

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media specialists.

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continue to fulfill their role in leveling the playing field for all who seek information

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and access to technologies, especially regarding the changing information landscape and the

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skills needed to thrive in our digital world.

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And whereas library media specialists work collaboratively with classroom teachers to

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support the curriculum and teach skills which are vital for student achievement and success,

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and whereas libraries open a world of possibilities through innovative STEAM programming, maker

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maker spaces, job seeking resources, and whereas libraries continuously grow and evolve in

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how they enrich the educational experience in the district, and whereas libraries, library

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media specialists, library workers, and supporters across America are celebrating National Library

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Week, and therefore be it known that the Katy Independent School District Board of Trustees

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does hereby proclaim National Library Week April 7th through the 13th, 2019.

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2019. We encourage visits to the library this week to explore what's new at your library and to engage with your library media specialist

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because of you and our experts in the library.

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Libraries transform.

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Agenda item 5.16 consider future board approval of a proclamation for public school volunteer week.

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Whereas public school volunteer week offers the opportunity to honor the contributions of Katy Independent School District parents and community

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volunteers who through the gift of time and resources contribute to the success

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of KTISD students, teachers, and staff that advance the goals of public

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education and whereas parental and community involvement is a significant

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factor in the quality of our schools and the success of our students and whereas

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we appreciate the dedicated volunteers who give their time and talent to assist

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professional educators and support staff and whereas volunteers reflects the

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highest values of our society and become role models for students by demonstrating an interest

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in education.

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And whereas volunteers are called upon to assist teachers and staff with the day-to-day

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activities involved in providing a balanced education for our students and are an important

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part of a team that strives to ensure each and every one of our students succeeds.

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And whereas it is fitting to recognize and thank the volunteers who invest in public

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education and play a key role in building the legacy.

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and whereas the parents when parents schools and communities work together

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they provide a strong foundation in preparing the students of today for the

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world tomorrow therefore be it known that the Katy Independent School

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District Board of Trustees does hereby proclaim public school volunteer week

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April 15th through the 19th 2019 next we'll move to our open forum portion at

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this time the Board of Trustees will give members of the public an

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opportunity to speak. A meeting that is open to the public under the Texas Open Meetings Act is one that the public is permitted to attend. The Act does not entitle the public to choose the items to be discussed or to speak about items on the agenda. A governmental body may, however, give members of the public an opportunity to speak at a public meeting which KDISD Board Policy BED Local does allow. As defined by this Board Policy, the first 20 speakers who signed up at least 15 minutes before this meeting began and have provided

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provided their first and last name will be allowed to speak.

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A maximum of 30 minutes has been allocated and the time divided equally among those who

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have signed up.

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However, the maximum amount of time for any one speaker is three minutes.

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If you are not finished speaking at the end of your three minutes, your microphone will

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turn off.

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If speakers wish to share written material with the Board, 10 copies must be provided

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for the Secretary for Board Services, for Board members, the Superintendent, the Chief

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Communications Officer, and permanent record.

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Due to posting requirements of the Open Meetings Act, the Board is able to respond only to

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a statement related to a posted agenda item with a statement of specific factual information

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given or a recitation of an existing policy in response to the inquiry.

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If a speaker has not attempted to solve a matter administratively through proper channels

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as stated in Board policy, the Presiding Officer shall advise the speaker to seek resolution

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through the appropriate policy.

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Board policy BED Legal states that it is a criminal offense for a person with the

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intent to prevent or disrupt a lawful meeting to substantially obstruct or

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interfere with the ordinary conduct of a meeting by physical action or verbal

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utterance and thereby curtail the exercise of others First Amendment

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rights. Board policy BED Local provides for removal of any member of the

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audience after at least one warning who disrupts the meeting by his or her words

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or actions. Finally, pursuant to Texas Government Code sections 551.074

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and 551.0821, the Board will not permit the presentation of personally identifiable information

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regarding a student and will not discuss the appointment, employment, evaluation reassignment,

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duties, discipline, or dismissal of a public officer or employee, or to hear a complaint

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or charge against an officer or an employee. Should a speaker wish to address one of these

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issues, they must do so through the appropriate local grievance policies, FNG local, DGBA local,

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or GF local. As I announce your name, please come forward and state your first and last name for the record. Our first speaker this evening is Mr. Nick Funditas.

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Thank you, Nick Funditas. I would like to once again talk about the district and fiscal responsibility.

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At the board meeting last month, a contractor of the district presented a slanderous report that cost this district a minimum of $38,000.

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This theatrical display was performed by someone with no legal investigative authority, no

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subpoena authority and no arrest authority.

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The Sheriff's Office has all of the aforementioned authority and could have investigated at no

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incremental cost to Katy ISD.

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If we look closely at the report produced, there are many points that should alarm members

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of this community.

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Unfortunately, I only have time to highlight a few.

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First, noticeably absent from the opening statement of the written report is any mention

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of the fact that the Littler-Middleson law firm are the former employer of the KDISD General Counsel.

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The absence of this information raises serious questions regarding the objectivity of this investigation.

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The contractor claims to have interviewed over 50 people and reviewed thousands of documents

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going far beyond the claims, trying to, quote, find any corruption or abuse of process

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or a simple violation of department rules, end quote, but came up empty except for an incident in 2003.

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This for me is the most obvious example of how superficial this investigation was.

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A simple Google search will yield unedited body camera footage from November 30, 2016

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of a Katy ISD Police Department employee using a taser on a 17-year-old special ed student

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that was just trying to exit the building to get fresh air as per his plan.

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Other staff can be heard in the video pleading with the officer to quote,

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cut it out, let him go, end quote, but the officer continues to use the less lethal force of a taser

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to achieve compliance. Once the student is on the ground in his own urine, feces, and in handcuffs,

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the officer engages in a verbal assault of expletives against the special education child.

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I guess the contractor determined this incident did not violate any department rules and thus

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did not deserve mention in the report. According to the report, less than 50% of the KDISD police

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Police Department were interviewed and according to the report they were unaware they would be

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interviewed. I would like to invite members of this community to walk into the Katy ISD Police

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Department and conduct interviews of the police force. Your success rate will confirm the

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probability that the officers were unaware that this was going on. Ultimately at the conclusion

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of the performance last meeting Mr. Scott asked a very important question to paraphrase

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can the district sue a taxpayer to recover the cost of hiring a contractor with no investigative

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authority to generate a report based on the results of that report. This question

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of course was not directly answered. To answer this does not require a JD. The

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answer is no. No more than I could sue the district to recover the cost of

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hiring my friend to write a slanderous report about the district based on the

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results of that report. Mr. Graham if you would like to confirm conclusively that

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the district can pursue a lawsuit to recover such costs I would invite you to

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please clarify. I think this is very much in line with the presentation today on

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on the budget and how we're consistently trying to scrape together funds and look at the discrepancies

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introduced by the state.

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And if perhaps this Board would be a little more fiscally conservative on how we spend

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money.

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CHAIRPERSON WONG.

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Mr. Funditas, our next speaker is Susan Wallace.

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I'm sorry, Mr. Funditas, I didn't realize you corrected me.

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MS.

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There seems to be a system of corruption in the community, in this community, in KDISD,

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where people get promoted after having performed duties that would not be in the best interest

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of the students or the teachers.

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Recently we had a principal nominated and awarded Principal of the Year, I think.

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And I have a list of about 40 different things that that person did.

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Blocking unemployment benefits for a staff member who was forced out by untrained riders.

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Please turn her microphone off.

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Okay.

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All right.

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Everybody stop.

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Yeah.

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Ms. Wallace, let Mr. Scott speak.

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Everybody stop.

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I think that what I have heard here is that somebody recently was appointed district principal of the year.

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Say what?

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District principal of the year.

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So at this point in time, I'm going to have to shut this line of conversation down.

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If you have a complaint to file against that individual, and you obviously know who it is, the 40 different complaints,

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I will encourage you to go through the district's robust grievance process, as outlined by the board president earlier this evening.

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There's someone in here that allowed an art teacher to groom and have sex with a student

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and he's now up here.

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The one that allowed that person to move from one school to another school had a school

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named after him.

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So this list of 40 things is a few years old.

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the fact that this person was after having done this at this school for all

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these years and now she's being awarded something is is just ridiculous you want

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to hear something else that there's a person everybody okay not the time go

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ahead under libel and slander law one does not have to use a name to

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to establish identification.

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I'm not aware of who she's referring to individually.

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I am.

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OK.

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Is that sufficient for identification?

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At least I'm reasonably positive that I am.

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I could not gather that from her commentary,

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so I'm going to let her continue down that questioning.

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So let me just ask a follow-up question.

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We're not using a name here, so this is a broad-based clash

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against anybody.

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This is a broad-based, we're making specific allegations against an individual.

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We can't allow them to name an individual, but we're going to let them to do a broad

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brush?

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That's correct.

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Okay.

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Continue, Ms. Wallace.

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Just so we know what's going on.

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Go ahead, Ms. Wallace.

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You good now?

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Thank you for listening and paying attention.

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This list, this is common knowledge.

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This has been out here for years.

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This is a letter that was written to the board before you guys, maybe not you, were here.

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Okay, so this is not something new. But some of these things,

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you try to block unemployed benefits for a staff member and a former teacher has to testify on the behalf of this staff member

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to the state unemployment office to help them overcome the punitive action by this person.

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That's just one of numerous things. And I got it. I was going to read a whole bunch.

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Thing is, that's just one elementary school. I had a conversation with a woman

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hours from Katy, just ran into someone, an acquaintance. We got to talking about

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this, that it's not a junior high bullying incident, this mess that we are

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in here now trying to do something about. Yes, I have other things to do too and

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I'm tired, but I'm here because I care and because it's the right thing to do.

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So this conversation with this woman, she lists at least half of these same things

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for a whole different elementary school.

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And you guys are okay with that.

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You promote these people.

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You are promoting this culture of intimidation towards our teachers.

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That's just a shame.

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You really need to do a better job.

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We need a better legacy.

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Thank you, Ms. Wallace.

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Next, 7.1.

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Madam President.

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Yes.

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Madam President, at this point in time, I think it is appropriate for me to go ahead

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and recite some policy and give a little bit of factual information for those of

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you who may be paying attention to tonight's meeting in accordance as

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dictated by our board president at the outset of every one of these public

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forums if you have specific complaints against specific employees if you have

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specific factual information which you believe needs to be brought to this

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district's attention anybody may do so in accordance with our robust grievance

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process. To date, I can confirm that we have no specific factual allegations that have been raised

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through the robust grievance process that you have in front of me. That would lead me to believe

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that there has been no violation of policy. Again, I'm going to reiterate what the Board

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President said. At KDISD, we have a robust grievance policy. So if you actually have

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information that somebody has violated law let's please bring that to our

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attention through that process and we will move forward appropriately thank

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you mr. Graham our regular board meeting is Monday March 25th 2019 there being no

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further business before the board this meeting is adjourned the time is 9 17

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p.m.

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