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Katy ISD Regular Board Meeting, February 25, 2019

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  1. 0:00 to 1:33 Item 3.1 Reconvene from Closed Meeting - The Board will reconvene from Closed Meeting. The presiding officer will verify that the meeting has been duly called and notice of the meeting has been posted for the time and manner required by law. Consider Board approval of the personnel report.
  2. 1:33 to 2:21 Item 3.2 Consider Board approval for employees who are being recommended to receive administrative one-year probationary, administrative one-year term, administrative two-year term, staff member one-year probationary, staff member one-year term and staff member two-year term contracts.
  3. 2:21 to 9:35 Item 3.3 (Part 1 of 2) Discuss and Consider Report on Police Department.
  4. 9:35 to 15:34 Item 4.1 Pledges of Allegiance Bear Creek Elementary Student to Lead Pledges of Allegiance.
  5. 15:34 to 19:11 Item 5.1 Recognitions 100-Year Anniversary of Katy Independent School District.
  6. 19:11 to 20:00 Item 5.2 Katy Independent School District Booster Club Presidents Recognition.
  7. 20:00 to 23:15 Item 5.3 Scholastic Writing Regional Gold Key Award.
  8. 23:15 to 24:54 Item 5.4 Area III Future Farmers of America Tractor Technician Contest Award.
  9. 24:54 to 27:47 Item 5.5 Texas Dance Educators Association All-State Recognition.
  10. 27:47 to 31:03 Item 5.6 Texas Music Educators Association All-State Choir.
  11. 31:03 to 32:42 Item 5.7 Texas Music Educators Association All-State Band.
  12. 32:42 to 35:25 Item 5.8 Texas Music Educators Association All-State Orchestra.
  13. 35:25 to 1:17:12 Item 3.3 (Part 2 of 2) Discuss and Consider Report on Police Department.
  14. 1:17:12 to 1:17:44 Consent Agenda 6.1 Consider Board approval of the minutes of the January 2019 Board meetings. 6.2 Consider Board approval of the December 2018 Financial Reports. 6.3 Consider Board approval of an Order Authorizing the Issuance of Katy Independent School District Unlimited Tax School Building and/or Refunding Bonds in one or more series; setting certain parameters for the Bonds; authorizing a pricing officer to approve the amount, the interest rate, price including the terms thereof and certain other procedures and provisions related thereto. 6.4 Consider Board approval of an Order Authorizing the Conversion of the Katy Independent School District Variable Rate Unlimited Tax Refunding Bonds, Series 2015C to a new rate period; authorizing a pricing officer to take certain actions related to such conversion; authorizing the preparation of a Remarketing Memorandum and the appointment of a remarketing agent; and enacting other provisions relating thereto. 6.5 Consider Board approval of a Resolution Expressing Intent to Defease/Redeem Certain of the District’s Outstanding Bonds. 6.6 Consider Board approval of the Resolution Declaring Intention to Reimburse Project Expenditures. 6.7 Consider Board approval of the February 2019 budget amendments. 6.8 Consider Board approval of the 2019-2020 property insurance program. 6.9 Consider Board approval of closed campuses for intra-district and interdistrict transfers for the 2019-2020 school year. 6.10 Consider Board approval of the proposed summer work schedule. 6.11 Consider Board approval of a contract for the purchase of a global positioning system (GPS) package for the bus fleet. 6.12 Consider Board approval of design services associated with the construction of Junior High School #17. 6.13 Consider Board approval to award the contract for the replacement of the synthetic field turf at Taylor High School and Morton Ranch High School. 6.14 Consider Board approval of the use of 2014 Bond Savings funds for five projects at various district facilities. 6.15 Consider Board approval of the award for the contracts for replacement of the building management control systems at identified locations. 6.16 Consider Board approval of the award for the contracts to replace flooring at Rylander Elementary, Morton Ranch Junior High and Seven Lakes High School. 6.17 Consider Board approval of the Interlocal Agreement with Cinco Southwest Municipal Utility District No. 4 and Katy Independent School District for recreational facilities.
  15. 1:17:44 to 1:20:32 Item 7.1 Action Items Consider Board approval of naming Elementary School #42 as recommended by the Naming Advisory Committee.
  16. 1:20:32 to 1:22:24 Item 8.1 Board Member Report - Board Member George Scott will give a report on his upcoming presentation at the Mexican American School Board Association (MASBA) 2019 National Convention.
  17. 1:22:24 to 1:22:32 Item 8.2 Donated Items to Katy Independent School District
  18. 1:22:32 to 1:22:41 Item 9 Future Meetings 9.1 Board Work Study Meeting - Monday, March 18, 2019 9.2 Regular Board Meeting - Monday, March 25, 2019
  19. 1:22:41 to 1:24:01 Items 10 - 12 10. Closed Meeting - Closed Meeting will be held for the purposes authorized by the Texas Open Meetings Act, Texas Government Code Section 551.001 et seq. concerning any and all purposes permitted by the Act, including but not limited to the sections and purposes listed below. 10.1 Consultation with Board's attorney. (Texas Government Code 551.071: For the purpose of a private consultation with the Board's attorney on any or all subjects or matters authorized by law; and Texas Government Code 551.129: For the purpose of a private consultation with the Board's attorney by telephone conference call.) 10.2 Conduct and consider a Level Three FNG grievance (FNG-18-018) pursuant to Katy Independent School District policy FNG(LEGAL) and FNG(LOCAL) regarding student and parent complaints/grievances. (Texas Government Code 551.0821: For the purpose of deliberating a matter regarding a public school student if personally identifiable information about the student will necessarily be revealed by the deliberation; and Texas Government Code 551.074: For the purpose of considering the appointment, employment, evaluation, reassignment, duties, discipline or dismissal of a public officer or employee or to hear complaints or charges against a public officer or employee.) 11. Reconvene from Closed Meeting - The Board will reconvene from Closed Meeting. 11.1 Consider Board action regarding a Level Three FNG grievance (FNG-18- 018) pursuant to Katy Independent School District policy FNG(LEGAL) and FNG(LOCAL) regarding student and parent complaints/grievances. 12. Adjournment

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Item 3.1

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The Board will now reconvene in open meeting. Today is Monday, February 25th, 2019 and the time is 6.31 p.m.

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Mr. Gorgorski, will you verify that we are in compliance with the provisions of the Texas Open Meetings Act with regard to notice for this meeting?

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Madam President, I do confirm we are in compliance with the provisions of the Texas Open Meeting Act for this meeting tonight. Thank you.

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On behalf of my colleagues, I welcome everyone to this evening's regular board meeting.

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Each board member received the agenda and documentation for this meeting Friday, February 22, 2019,

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and have had three days to study its contents and to receive clarification from Mr. Gorgorski.

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Additionally, the board met last week in a work-study meeting to receive information and recommendations from staff,

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administration, and the superintendent on these agenda items.

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Board members were able to ask questions and receive answers and should be prepared with responses and action tonight.

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The board has just reconvened from closed meeting in accordance with chapter 551 of the Texas government code any action arising from discussions

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In the closed meeting must be taken in an open meeting. We will now move to agenda item 3.1

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Mr. Lacey move that the Board of Trustees approves the personnel report is recommended by the superintendent close

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I

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Have a motion by mr. Lacey a second by miss Fox that the Board of Trustees approves the personnel report as recommended by the

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superintendent in closed meeting is there any discussion we proceed to vote

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all those in favor please raise your right hand and say aye all those

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opposed motion passes agenda item 3.2

Item 3.2

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president mr. Lacey I move that the Board of Trustees approves the

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administrative one-year probationary administrative one-year term

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administrative two-year term staff member one-year probationary staff

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member one-year term and staff member two-year term contracts as recommended

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by the superintendent in closed meeting. I have a motion by Mr. Lacey, a second by

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Ms. Vann that the Board of Trustees approves the administrative one-year

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probationary, administrative one-year term, administrative two-year term, staff

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member one-year probationary, staff member one-year term, and staff member

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two-year term contracts as recommended by the superintendent in closed meeting.

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Is there any discussion? Hearing none, we'll proceed to vote. All those in favor

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please raise your right hand. All those opposed? Motion passes. Agenda item

Item 3.3 (Part 1 of 2)

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3.3. Mr. Graham. Madam President. Mr. Lacey. I move to approve the release of the report on investigation of allegations of corruptions and official oppression by the KDISD Police Department. Second. I have a motion by Mr. Lacey, a second by Ms. Vann to approve the release of the report on investigation of allegations of corruption and official oppression in the KDISD Police Department. Is there any discussion? Yes. Mr. Scott.

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I think that to release this report, Virgin, is the wrong way to go.

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We have just been in an executive session where we have heard an extended report.

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And so first, I want to inquire of the chair, are we going to have the opportunity to put the attorneys that conducted the investigation out there so that we can ask them questions?

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Mr.

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Mr. Grant is responding.

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Mr. Scott.

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So the information which has been shared with you has been done so under the guise of the attorney-client privilege,

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which can only be waived by a majority of this board.

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So if you take action on the motion and approve the motion, then we can have a discussion from the podium with questions.

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I understand that.

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I was in the executive session.

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I understand that.

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My question is, if we approve this motion, are we going to the next item on the agenda,

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or are we going to bring the attorneys out here and expose the nonsense that we just listened to?

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Yes, sir.

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Mr. Graham, do you want to?

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Mr. Scott, it's my understanding, and again, this is the presiding officer's meeting,

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but it's my understanding that we will have a presentation from outside counsel if this motion does pass.

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Yes, Mr. Scott.

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Madam President, my suggestion was that we not do this tonight.

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We have an extensive agenda on a regular thing.

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We have observations.

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We're putting this at the front of the agenda.

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I think it takes 30 to 45 minutes to adequately get through this.

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I was there.

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I heard the nonsense.

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We had detailed reports.

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Are we really going to keep all these people 45 minutes waiting to see the nonsense?

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that we've listened to where we can answer questions.

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My suggestion is that we set this for a special meeting.

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If necessary, if we can invoke the provisions of emergency meetings,

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because I think now that this has been brought to the public,

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that there is more of a sense of urgency,

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and I believe that this should be a stand-alone item.

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them. I have 30 minutes of questions myself and I will not be denied on the

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nonsense that we have listened to. So what are the rules of the game here? What

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are the rules of the game? We approve this motion, are we going to get three

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minutes, are we going to get five minutes, are we going to get two minutes each, are

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we going to get ten minutes, are we going to keep the entire room including the

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scouts and everyone from hearing a full and frank and candid discussion of the issues that we have

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heard in executive session what are the rules uh mr scott i can speak to the rules that we have in

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place as you know we're governed with this board has adopted the robert rules of orders and there

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has been no motion on the table to limit debate or um extend the limits of the pending question

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in front of us. As such, the debate is not limited in time or scope from the

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questions that you may have from an individual basis. So let me make a

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inquiry to a lawyer because we're doing a dance here. I can't call a point of

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order until there's a motion. So I am asking for a good faith representation

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when this topic is introduced. It's going to take the attorneys 15 minutes or so

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to get through.

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We had about a 30-minute discussion

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after the presentation by the attorneys.

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We're talking 45 minutes.

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It's 638.

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We could easily go to 730 or 715,

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unveiling the atrocity

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of what we have heard against this district.

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Or we could set a special meeting.

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I want to know the rules of the game

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because I will vote against approving it tonight if it means that we're going to

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wait till April or March to have a full discussion I want to know what the rules

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of the game are okay so again I'm going to answer your question in a legal term

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and then I'm going to go with there is no motion to limit debate on the

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question the motions been put in front of this board that we do have a second

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We're in the discussion period.

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So I think we've got a couple of options here.

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If you guys want to go ahead and vote on the motion,

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and then we'll have the presentation from council,

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and then you can ask all of the questions that you need to ask,

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which will not be limited unless two-thirds, majority of this board goes ahead to limit such.

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So I want to use that.

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One second.

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Madam President, let's stop equivocating here.

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Mr. Scott, I'm speaking.

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Mr. Graham, can we move this discussion to after recognitions so that we don't have our children waiting for a late meeting?

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And then we don't feel pressured to limit our discussion.

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Absolutely.

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So right now we have a motion that's pending.

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Right.

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If somebody else would like to make a motion to postpone until after we've done the recognition portion, then we can reconsider the motion at that time.

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I move we postpone this discussion until at least after the public recognitions.

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Do I have a second?

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Second.

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I have a motion by Mr. Scott, a second by Ms. Vann,

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to postpone this discussion of Agenda Item 3.3 until after the recognition portion of the meeting.

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All those in favor?

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Aye.

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All those opposed?

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Motion passes.

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We will move this item on the agenda.

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Madam President, you still have a motion and a second?

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Okay.

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On the floor?

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Correct. So I do have a live motion. I have a motion by Mr.

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Go ahead, Mr. Graham. So what we've done here is we've placed that motion on the table

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and so when we, after we do the recognitions

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we can, we'll restate the motion and the second as is and we can

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have discussion at that time. There's no need for any other discussion on this motion.

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Okay. Okay, great. Thank you, Mr. Graham. Thank you, Board. Next

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I have Agenda Item 4.1. Mr. Grigorski. Madam President,

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I just want to make sure that I'm clear on this.

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So shouldn't we vote on this and then move it to 5.8?

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We're moving the whole motion.

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Got it.

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Everything.

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Thank you.

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All right.

Item 4.1

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Mr. Grigorski.

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Thank you, Madam President.

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So we've got a special guest with us tonight, and I'm going to go ahead and invite Audrey Aguirre from Bear Creek Elementary.

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She's a fifth grader.

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I'm going to invite her up to the podium, and she can come on up.

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She's sitting over there in the front row next to her principal, Dr. Lorena Zertucci,

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and her parents, Crystal and Abel Aguirre.

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And she has some siblings here, it looks like, Evelyn, who's in eighth grade,

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and Annabella and Abel that are in third grade.

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And a few things about Audrey that I'd like to share.

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She's got some special interests such as swimming, chess, painting, crafts, cooking, baking, and dogs.

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Favorite subjects are science and social studies and a quote from her teachers Emily Smith fifth

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grade teacher says Audrey is a joy to have in the classroom she is hard-working dependable

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helpful in kind Audrey sets a great example of these character traits for her classmates

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and from her principal Dr. Zertucci Audrey has been an excellent student council president she

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represents our Bear Creek Elementary student body well leading monthly meetings and spoke

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spoke beautifully at our 40th anniversary celebration.

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She is a hard worker whose leadership will take her far in life, not to mention that

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she is part of a lovely family with three more Cougar siblings.

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So welcome, Audrey.

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We'll turn it over to you for the pledge.

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I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for

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for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible,

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with liberty and justice for all.

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Honor the Texas flag.

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I pledge allegiance to thee, Texas,

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one state under God, one and indivisible.

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Good evening, President Doyle, board members,

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and Superintendent Gergorski.

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kindergarten and I'm now in the fifth grade. Bear Creek is a great school. We

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just celebrated our 40th birthday as the heart of the community. I love meeting

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new students as I change grade levels and I look forward to the first day of

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school. Each grade level is a new chapter of my life story and I know I'm going to

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learn new things. There are a lot of activities in each grade level. In

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In kindergarten, my favorite activity was our field trip to Dewberry Farms.

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In first grade, we got to see the baby chicks hatch in our open area.

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A funny memory from second grade was trying to get two slimy mealworms back into the box with my friends.

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In third grade, you can become a library helper and help our librarian, Ms. Baker.

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And in fourth grade, you can join Cougar Choir.

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Since it is my last year, I joined student council and I was elected president.

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I am in STEM as a science club for girls and still in Cougar Choir.

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I am also a fifth grade VIP, which stands for Very Important Privileges, to help us prepare for junior high.

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One of my favorite things we have is our monthly Cougar Pride celebration.

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A student from each grade level is chosen and recognized because they were a role model to others.

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The students go up on stage and have their poster read.

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And then we hang it up in the halls.

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Everyone gets to see and congratulate the students.

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I know I will enjoy the rest of my year at Bear Creek.

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Thank you and have a nice evening.

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Go ahead and come back up.

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I'm on the board.

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Here's a special paper for you.

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Here's a certificate.

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And I like both of them.

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Is she allowed to have a certificate?

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Okay.

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Thank you so much.

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Thank you.

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Next, do we have any scouts in the audience?

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If so, please stand up.

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We've got a full crowd.

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No scouts? Oh yeah! Come on up to the podium.

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You can come on up to the podium. Okay. If you wouldn't mind sharing us with your

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name, the badge that you're working on, and what school do you currently attend?

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My name is Samuel Polk. I'm from Troop 209. I'm first class and I'm trying to get my citizenship in the community merit badge.

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Great. What school are you at?

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I go to McMeans Junior High.

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Very good. Welcome to our board meeting. Thank you for being here.

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Thank you.

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Great job.

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Are there any others?

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Okay, great.

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Thanks so much.

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Mr. Grigorski.

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Thank you, Madam President.

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Next on our agenda, I'd like to introduce Mrs. Maria DiPetta,

Item 5.1

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Manager of Media Relations and Multimedia for the recognition portion of our meeting.

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on this very day 100 years ago on february the 25th 1919 the katie independent school district

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was ratified by the legislature of the state of texas the state has recognized the efforts brought

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brought forth by the founding families of this community to establish a public education

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system that would provide basic reading, writing, and math skills to their children, helping

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those families further the Katy economy and their dreams.

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From those humble beginnings, Katy ISD has grown to become what is most certainly the

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best school district in Texas and also, some think of us as the best school district in

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the country.

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For over 100 years, the Katy ISD school community has experienced a number of successes as well as challenges, but this district has persevered time and time again.

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It has overcome both mother nature and human nature during these past 100 years.

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THROUGHOUT EVERY DECADE, THIS COMMUNITY, ALONG WITH EVERY TEACHER, PRINCIPAL, SUPPORT STAFF,

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AND TRUSTEE, HAVE WORKED TO MAKE DECISIONS THAT FURTHER THE EDUCATIONAL EXPERIENCE AND

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POSITIVELY IMPACT THE WELL-BEING OF WHAT IS NOW 80,500 STUDENTS.

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WHILE THERE IS NO WAY TO COVER A CENTURY OF KDISD'S HISTORY IN JUST A FEW MINUTES, WE'RE

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GOING TO TAKE A MOMENT TO REFLECT ON THIS BRIEF SLIDE SHOW CREATED BY OUR OVER 100-YEAR

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ANNIVERSARY COMMITTEE.

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THROUGH THESE PHOTOS WE HOPE TO GIVE YOU A SMALL GLIMPSE OF THE KDISD HISTORY.

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I'm with that FAA showroom.

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Thank you.

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And as you saw, KDISD's accomplishments have come from a century's worth of determination, commitment, initiative, and innovative thinking.

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Again, happy birthday to KDISD.

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Next, Katy ISD is thankful to have the learning experience of students enriched by the involvement

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of their parents and community members who share their time, talent, and resources in

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support of the extracurricular activities at our high schools.

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Earlier this evening, a reception was hosted in honor and to dedicate the hard work of

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of the Booster Club members who directly impact

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the educational opportunities offered to the students

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in Katy ISD.

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Will all of the Booster Club presidents

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who are with us tonight please stand and be recognized.

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We extend our greatest appreciation to all of you.

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Next, students across the country and around the globe spend hours producing their creations

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for the Scholastic Gold Key Writing Awards.

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Every year, more and more students in Katy ISD are being awarded the Gold Key recognition.

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This includes campuses who saw winners for the first time, such as Katy, Maid Creek,

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and Pato High School.

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Also the number of Gold Key recipients, the highest honor, increased from 10 to 17 this

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year.

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The following students have received a regional gold key award and their work is now being recognized for national recognition.

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Students, please come forward when I call your name.

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From Seven Lakes Junior High, Atatutu Adenusi, Poetry, entitled African Motherland.

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From Cinco Ranch High School, Ethan Wang, Poetry, entitled A Tower by the Sea.

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From Katy High School, Shayla Russell, Poetry, entitled The Six Stages of Losing the First Man She Ever Loved.

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And Allison Swain received two gold keys for Poetry, entitled Glorious and Immense, as well as Cross.

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From May Creek High School, Mohamed Zadi, Short Story, entitled A World of Gray.

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From Maid Creek High School, rather from Miller Career and Technology Center, Catherine Lindsley,

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Poetry entitled, Cold-Blooded.

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From Pato High School, Jana Torres, Personal Essay and Memoir, What I Wanna Be.

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From Seven Lakes High School, Abhinav Vasavaju, Poetry entitled, Thank You, George Gershwin.

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Hannah Bean short story test of spirit Sylvie Kristen short story entitled come

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and find me Eamon Khan short story the midnight stranger Ezra Larson also

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received two gold keys for science fiction and fantasy entitled crash

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course heading and poetry entitled a million pawns old hickory immortality

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and C4. Chloe Naylor, Science Fiction and Fantasy, entitled Spiral. Daniel Wei, Critical Essay,

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entitled Recalling the Week that Changed the World. Let's give them a round of applause.

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Congratulations and good luck in nationals.

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Next, the Pato High School Tractor Tech Team recently won first place at the Future Farmers

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of America Area 3 Tractor Technician Contest.

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During this three-part competition, team members appraised components and parts of tractors and agricultural instruments.

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They also made recommendations for services needed or not needed, and they completed a written exam.

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The team has advanced to state contests in March.

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Students, please come forward when I call your name, and will their ACT-E chair, Mr. Kevin Packman, please join your students as well.

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They are Christopher Darden, Drake Ladig, and Joshua Peavler.

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Congratulations and good luck next month.

Item 5.5

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The Texas Dance Educators Association, also known as TDEEA, is dedicated to the advancement

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of dance education throughout the state of Texas and committed to providing a professional

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learning community where innovative ideas in the fields of dance are celebrated.

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TDEEA hosts a four-day convention that includes professional workshops, an exciting exhibit

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hall and highlights sensational all-state and collegiate performances.

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The following students have been chosen as members of the all-state dance team

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and will perform with other dancers from across the state of Texas at the conference.

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Students, please come forward when I call your name, and if the dance instructors are here,

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please join your students. Sydney Matthews from Cinco Ranch High School.

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instructor Samantha cocking Alex scan holds from Katy high school instructor

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Patricia Henson Bailey do for from a creek high school instructor Heather

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Levin Brianna Wolford from Morton Ranch high school instructor April hunt

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Emily Croy from Seven Lakes High School instructor Whitney Baker

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Jennifer Gannon from Taylor High School instructor Barbie Parker

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and Shelby Dupont from Tompkins High School instructor Rosemary Fortenberry

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Thank you very much.

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as well.

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Next, the Texas Music Educators Association All-State Performers is the

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highest honor

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a Texas music student can receive. This process begins with over 68,000

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students from around the state

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buying for this recognition to perform in one of 15 ensembles,

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which is either band, orchestra, or choir. All state students participate in three

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days of rehearsals directed by nationally recognized conductors during

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the annual state TM EA clinic and convention. Their performances before

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thousands of attendees bring this extraordinary event to a close. Students

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please come forward when I call your name and will the directors who are here

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tonight please join your students performing in the all-state choir are

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from Cinco Ranch High School under the direction of Dorothy Wilson Shaylee

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Betsy and Christopher McCloskey

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from Katy High School under the direction of Brian Miller Emily Adams

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Conley Grimmett, Blake Harlson and Rachel Santos.

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From May Creek High School under the direction of Miss Jessica Shine, Zach

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Durgin and Gage Evans. From Morton Ranch High School under the direction of David

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David Benwick, Rachel Glasser.

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From Seven Lakes High School,

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under the direction of Emily Chandler, Anaru Ajay,

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Isabella Schmid, Alyssa Senu, and Erica Yannick.

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From Taylor High School,

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under the direction of Kevin Rila Chiyong Young and under Tompkins High School

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under the direction of Kristen Renartz Tasnim Islam

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Thank you.

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Congratulations to all of you.

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Next, performing an All-State Band from May Creek High School under the direction of James

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Dolnik, we have Dane Madruger from Seven Lakes High School under the direction of John Mays,

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we have Raymond Chung, Jameson Telton, Tingyu Zheng, and Yitian Zhu.

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From Taylor High School, under the direction of Michael Arring, we have Shelby Burton, Sunny Tang, and Yipu Wang.

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And from Tompkins High School, under the direction of Stephen Bond, Shamiria Mutandiro.

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Congratulations.

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Congratulations for receiving this honor.

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Performing in the Allstate Orchestra from Single Ranch High School under the direction of Brett Nilsen,

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we have Elias Getemi and Dixing Liu.

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From Morton Ranch High School under the direction of Gabriel Katz, we have Renee Juarez.

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From Seven Lakes High School under the direction of Desiree Overy, Colin Campbell, Leah Sheng,

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Shane Aubrey Colleen April thing a leaf Caracas Rachel Kim Jonathan Liu Lauren

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Matthews Danielle Oka see and and Cheryl Zing

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actually we have a couple more from Taylor High School under the direction of Clinton

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Capshaw Allison the cat Kristen yo end and from Tompkins High School under the direction

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of Matthew Porter we have Michelle Lee William Sue and Jenny son

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Thank you.

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Let's give them one more round of applause.

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This concludes the recognitions portion of our meeting this evening.

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Thank you.

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Thank you so much.

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Board, I will direct you back to agenda item 3.3.

Item 3.3 (Part 2 of 2)

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We have a motion on the table by Mr. Lacey, a second by Ms. Vann,

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that the Board of Trustees approve the release of the report on investigation of allegations of corruption

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and official oppression in the KDIC Police Department.

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Is there any discussion?

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without any hearing any let's go ahead and vote all those in favor raise your right hand and say

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aye aye all those opposed motion passes mr. Graham madam president mr. Gorski members of this board

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we did have a brief presentation this evening in closed session and to the extent that you have

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have moved to approve the release of the report.

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I have our outside counsel, Mr. Harry Jones here to present to this board of trustees.

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For just a little bit of background context with that, which I think is important.

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Probably for those in the room that are wondering what it is that we're discussing.

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In late January, there was some allegations made against our police department which,

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which if true equated to crimes against children, corruption and official oppression.

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What was specifically alleged was that police reports were being altered by our police department.

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And it was done so that our children, real children, would be sent to real jail time.

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When we get that sort of allegation with that sort of specificity, we take action.

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And so, in less than 24 hours, had a discussion with our chief executive of this district, decided to bring in outside counsel, Mr. Jones, and he's going to give you his report today.

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And I think what you'll hear from him was that his mandate was to go find it.

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If it exists, go find it so that we can report it appropriately.

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And with that said, I'm going to turn it over to Mr. Jones so that he can give you a brief summary.

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I'd encourage us to let him finish his summary, and then we will turn it to you for as many questions as you all need tonight.

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Madam President, while he's approaching the podium, I have a legal inquiry.

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Mr. Scott?

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We've heard the presentation and I would like to ask a procedural question before he begins.

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And it was a question that I asked in executive session relative to his independence.

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May I do that?

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Yes, sir. You may.

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I asked you in executive session two or three very basic questions.

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Could the district write you a million dollar check for you to tell us what we wanted to hear?

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No.

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Have you investigated other public institutions and told them what they did not want to hear?

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Yes, and almost 100 investigations, I'm sure about half of those turn out exactly opposite to what the people wanted that asked me to come in.

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So in terms of what the media is about to hear, what the people in this room are about to hear,

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and what the people on video and subsequent are about to hear is,

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if you found wrongdoing you would look us in the face tonight and you would

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tell us wrongdoing without hesitation or equivocation yes in fact if I found

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wrongdoing I would have gone to the law to the authorities immediately and not

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waited for this night thank you go ahead mr. Jones good evening this this is a

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report on our investigation of allegations of corruption and official

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oppression in the KDISD Police Department. My name is Harry Jones. I'm

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here with Danielle Herring and we led the team in this investigation. First of

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all to describe what we were investigating, what I will call the

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Dolan claims. In the late evening of January 28th at almost midnight of this

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year, Sean Dolan posted claims which we'll call the Dolan claims that he had

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informed the KDISD Superintendent of Corruption occurring in the KDISD Police

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Department. The implication was that the district did not pay attention to those

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allegations but in actuality we have found that the district's chief executive

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did speak directly with Mr. Dolan and in fact did so at the January board meeting

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and while the superintendent declined to use Mr. Dolan as some sort of go-between

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he did offer to speak with whoever was complaining of corruption. Mr. Dolan

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refused that information. Nevertheless, the superintendent was always willing to

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to meet with Sean Dolan about these claims.

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Thereafter, Mr. Dolan posted publicly

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that an allegation was reported to him

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by a former police administrator, and that's verbatim.

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The only particulars Mr. Dolan gave

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were police statements from students are being changed,

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are being changed, present tense, by KDISD police

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to protect the district.

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These statements are later used in real courts

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to sentence real students to real jails. Mr. Dolan claimed many officers have

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left the force due to lack of integrity and he wrote that these officers are

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willing to go on the record but he advised them not to. Parallel to this

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there was a request which we'll call the PIR request for five case files from

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Katy ISD Police Department including case number, crime date, under the

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the Request for Public Information Act. As required by law, those have been referred

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to the Texas Attorney General for determination. Within 48 hours of those Dolan claims being

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made in the post on January 28, KDISD acting through General Counsel and Superintendent

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asked me to conduct an investigation into those Dolan claims. And let me be clear, the

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direction I was given was that if a crime as alleged in the Dolan claims appeared to

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have been committed we were to report it without even waiting for the district's

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approval. That was also my command and directive to my team. Potential crimes

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because if the Dolan claims proved true those were crimes included suborning

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perjury, official oppression, witness tampering, and possible federal civil

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rights violations and fraud. So we knew we were dealing with very serious claims

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claims of great gravity. The reason for the administration's approach was if those crimes were being committed by KDIC police officers against children, the need to determine who was doing that, how they were doing that, who was aiding or abetting them, and which children had been wrongfully convicted or affected was absolutely critical, and I agreed with that formulation.

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Since it was not clear to us that Mr. Dolan was going to provide any more assistance based on the refusal to give the superintendent information,

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the district told me to take a broad approach, to go wide and deep, because the philosophy was we really do need to know.

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Why bring in someone like me from outside the district?

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Well, besides the difficulty of a school district investigating a police department, which is almost so obvious that it's hard to say,

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the competing narratives of always of witch hunt versus whitewash are as old

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as every investigation that was ever conducted. Since I've done almost a

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hundred of these usually under the white hot glare of media coverage someone's

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gonna say whitewash and someone's gonna say witch hunt. It's not novel and it's

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not even that interesting. The key is to avoid that excuse. Too many people know

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each other inside a school district and a police force. Conclusions are

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distrusted. A fresh set of eyes is always better. I had no dog in the hunt. I was

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prepared for any set of facts to appear and choosing an outside

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investigation group was needed because it's very difficult to investigate

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yourself. Also the scale of what we were looking at necessitated a firm like mine

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which has appropriate resources. Our firm is the largest employment law firm in

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the world. We lead the nation in the workplace investigations. There are very

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few attorneys in Texas or the whole country who have led more public

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institution investigations I have covering everything cash management

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human trafficking vendor fraud athlete safety online building whatever you want

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to talk about we've done it we did not know going in how complex it would be or

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if it would garner significant media or involve a referral to the FBI to Texas

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Rangers or any federal authorities and that is my specialty is having handling

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investigations where you really don't know where it will go. So independence

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which Mr. Scott alluded to our recommendations are not uniform in my

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investigations my findings stay independent I will not work for any

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institution who tells me who I can talk to and who I cannot talk to I just will

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not do it. We will not allow an institution to steer our investigations

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investigations. Nobody in the administration, nobody told us who we could talk to or not

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talk to. No one told us that there were subjects forbidden or problems that were excluded from

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our review. Our findings and conclusions are only as valuable as our autonomy. Thus, if

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you look at the investigations that we have led and I've led personally, you'll see a

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full range of outcomes, full clearances, full exonerations, all the way down to actual terminations

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and self-reporting to criminal authorities.

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We conduct our investigation with an open mind.

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So back to the Dolan claims.

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What were we trying to find?

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We sought to find the truth about the Dolan claims through a prompt and thorough investigation.

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That's what's required.

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required. The Dolan claims did give us some clues and so we were grateful for that. A former police administrator, so who is he or she, five files were requested in the PRR request, so which file was dirty, who was alleged to be corrupt, and one way of corrupting the file, it was alleged, was to alter a student statement, which then finally had the effect of sending someone to jail to protect the district.

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So what we tried to do when we looked at those clues was not just to find those exact problems, but we said let's make sure we find any irregularity and dig deep for any inconsistency, no matter how minor, because we had to confront witnesses with facts and then maybe that would lead back to the corruption.

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That's the likeliest way to find corruption always.

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We surprised people.

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We didn't keep people warning.

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We were not shielded, we were not directed, and so we were likely to find someone who would know something, even if Mr. Dolan wouldn't give us more specificity.

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Also, we followed inferences from the Dolan claims and tried to make sense of those.

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But we were directed to find any wrongdoing.

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I will say the summary after all this and I'll go through the methodology in a

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minute but the summary of the conclusions that we have after our

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prompt and thorough and good faith investigation after interviewing and

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talking to over 50 people and reviewing thousands of documents and inspecting

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dozens of sites and reinvestigating very thoroughly the five files that Mr. Dolan

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identified in the Dolan claims and then going far beyond the Dolan claims

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because we talked to people who had left the department, even people who might be

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disgruntled for some reason or another, to try to find any abuse of power, any

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abuse of process, or even simple violations of department rules. We can

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certify, and I do certify tonight, the Dolan claims are not supported by the

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facts, they are not corroborated by any witness, they are not suggested at all by

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by the circumstances and they are devoid of proof.

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If someone brings forward some sort of proof

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or document or person that we haven't talked to,

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I'm open to that still, but I'm telling you

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that right now there is no incriminating statement

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that was found to be altered for the purpose

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of convicting a student falsely

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and all five files identified in the PR request

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are actually solid examples of good policing.

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policing. Any department scrutinized by a team such as mine will have areas for improvement

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and any such findings were minor and involved mundane processes, none of which involved

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fraud or corruption or witness tampering or perjury or dishonesty. We also found, and

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this is crucial for everyone to know, that this very department has a strong record for

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for self-policing. For example, an episode in 2003 wherein an officer altered dates on

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documents to hide a mistake she had made. The District Attorney's Office was informed

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of this investigation and findings and the department went to the Harris County DA's

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Public Integrity Division, presented it, turned it over. That officer was indicted by a grand

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jury for tampering with evidence and terminated from KDISD. This shows a strong commitment

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lawfulness a trait that has remained. That is not to say that it could have

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changed, that it might not have changed, but during the course of our

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investigation we found that all the current officers actually know of that

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2003 case and it enforces a zero tolerance attitude towards altering

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documents. There is no incentive that we could find to alter documents or

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statements or files. There is no financial incentive to close cases.

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There's no financial incentive to close more cases. There is much more incentive

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not to because as they've learned in 2003 someone could actually be indicted

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by a grand jury. In fact I will go a little further than that. This police

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department has a tendency towards great adherence to detail. Even the

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even the statements we did look at had great grammar, they were corrected, they

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were observed, they were double-checked, and there was a lot of different

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backstops that would catch anything that would be wrong in those statements. I

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will say that I could honestly profess the KDIC could be proud of its

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police department, its leaders, and its rank and file. The district is less

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well served by having someone like me who's quite expensive investigate claims

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like the Dolan claims which wasted the taxpayer monies which Mr. Dolan could

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have saved but chose not to and I'm going to ask you a question and I would

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invite anyone to answer it in their head why would a sincerely concerned citizen

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withhold crucial information about crimes against children that if shared

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would abbreviate the investigation that was launched into the TIP and why would

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a truly well-meaning complainant prevent an investigator from knowing which

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students to protect? The answer is he wouldn't. Not if he was sincere and not

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if he was operating in good faith. Since it was unclear from the Dolan claims who

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corrupted which files for what motive affecting which students and where the

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report originated from we wanted to hear more from Mr. Dolan. So on February the

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1st right after I took this investigation on and wanting to avoid

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any kind of gamesmanship about what I did and what I didn't know I went

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straight to meet the Dolan's at a local eatery called Snappies. We shook hands I

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introduced myself and handed Mr. Dolan my business card. I asked politely if I

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could sit down with him. Mr. Dolan urged me to sit. I told him what I've been

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asked to do, exactly what I've been asked to do. I ordered a coffee, the restaurant

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was packed, even though Mr. Boland was made aware of the cost and scale triggered by these

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claims and even though it was clear that it was, if the motivation was to protect kids

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from being falsely convicted, he refused to give me more information. Mr. Boland, Mr.

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Mr. Dolan admitted to me that there were not five corrupt files, that the PIR request for

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five files was specifically designed so that four of them were false, they were clean files

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that he knew they were, but to confuse KDISD and not let the district know which one was

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real, who was dirty, and what dirty cop was operating inside the district.

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I urged him to identify which file was the corrupt one because my hourly rate is quite

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high.

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In fact, I told him exactly what it might cost if he didn't give me a target.

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We were always going to do it anyway, but it would save the district a lot of money.

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It also would help us get the right answer.

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So for two reasons, someone motivated in good faith would have told me.

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I told him don't withhold information because if you want someone not to be convicted falsely

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tomorrow by a dirty cop, the best way for you to help me stop that happen was to

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tell me. If you don't, it'll be hard for me to stop. Mr. Dolan promised to call me

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back in an hour and try to give me helpful information from a witness that

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he claimed was reluctant. He never called me back and even though I emailed him

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several times, probably more than five times, seeking clarification, I never got

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that help. Instead, Mr. Dolan went to the district to verify that I was in fact

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authorized. When he was told that he was that he I was authorized then I

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continued to ask him for help. We were gonna go ahead anyway. The superintendent

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was adamant that he wanted to find any corruption that existed in the police

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department and so we went after it. I was to interview as many officers and ex

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officers as possible to satisfy due diligence. But my emails did get very

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very specific from February 1 until we started interviews. Sean, I was setting up next week's

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schedule of interrogations. You can help me streamline my process by calling me with any

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helpful information. And I gave him every single way to contact me, including my mobile phone.

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Again, to give you my timeline, Sean, my team will start the interviews this coming Wednesday

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and Thursday. To handle the scope, we may have to use up to four lawyers. This will help you see

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the upside to targeting our anti-corruption efforts. There's no way around it. It's time

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consuming and costly. Thanks for any help you can give. Mr. Dolan then told me that

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he's been busy and forgotten what I wanted. And so could I say it again? So I did. And

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I told him, once I start on something like this, it's better not to let a district or

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department have any ability to steer or shift my path and find the truth. I run my own investigations.

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I won't accept any job if I don't have operational autonomy.

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My understanding from our chat at Snappies today is, and then I gave him a list of six.

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You know of a person who knows of a practice or an incidence of student statements being altered to make convictions easier.

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Mr. Dolan hatched a new excuse not to give me information.

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He said, my concern is if I identify the dirty file, the district would then be able to clean it up and cover their tracks.

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I solved that issue immediately.

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Sean, I'll maintain any static copies.

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Nobody can destroy mine nor can they direct me to do so.

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That's part of my investigation.

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All I can ask you to do is identify the dirty cops, the dirty files, and I will do my job.

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My job is made harder by someone who withholds information in this case.

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This went on and on.

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I actually wrote a long email which detailed almost everything that I was doing in the

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investigation gave him a framework of it and asked one more time for some kind of

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hint and thanked him for any assistance at that point Mr. Dolan stopped

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communicating with me and tried to contact the police chief before I'd even

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started doing my interviews I wasn't sure of the reason for that but let me

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be clear about something this investigation was never of Mr. Dolan

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It's not ever going to be of Mr. Dolan. The investigation was of the Dolan claims.

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But by necessity, I started with the person who made the claims because that makes sense.

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The only person in this entire saga who tried to stop or harm the very investigation,

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which necessarily harms the potential of kids being hurt, was Mr. Dolan.

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Everyone else, even people who have left here, third parties,

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have cooperated fully without any need to repeat the invitation. We didn't have

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the power of subpoena. We didn't have any kind of power of oath so we had to ask

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but everyone else cooperated. We interviewed over 50 people. We reviewed

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personnel files and ran searches and background. We reviewed social media. We

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scoured the records of all current officers. We built a framework that works

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which is to actually build a circle around it and then walk it slowly in

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with interviews that look for internal and external inconsistencies. We heard

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typical complaints about politics and work and so forth but no one was

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corroborating any kind of corruption. Furthermore we were actually seeing a

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pretty tightly run department that had lots of double checks. We pushed hard to

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see if this is a scrupulous force that actually is dedicated to integrity which

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is on their logos and maybe find anyone struggling with needs for money or

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or someone struggling with addiction.

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We spoke to departed officers,

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some of whom were not exactly happy

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with their former employer, as is the case sometimes

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when you find ex-employees.

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Those people were not shy about telling us things

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they didn't like about a person, personality-wise,

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but when we pushed, and we pushed hard to say,

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was there someone, not only who did something wrong,

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but would they do something wrong,

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No one would say that someone would alter a statement. No corruption was

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identified by any of them. In fact, some of the criticisms were actually, you

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would call them compliments, that it was tough. The department's tough on people.

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They want to make people do the right thing. We could look at computer

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programs. We could look at documents. I wanted to have someone show me exactly

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where evidence starts and where it goes, spot checks, show me a

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document and how you alter it? How do you modify a document? How can I see every

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single time a document was changed if it's in a police case file and tell me

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how I could find who did it? Who has authority? These witnesses I was talking

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to were not prepped at all. They didn't even know in some cases who I was before

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I walked in just like Mr. Dolan and sometimes they were perplexed or even

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alarmed. So we had good valid feedback to gauge whether this department could hold

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up under interrogation. We never got any of us any inkling that the investigation

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was being undermined or diverted by anyone except Mr. Dolan. Our team reviewed

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all relevant statutes, regs, laws, cases as well as significant policies, memos

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and discipline documents. What are people punished for doing? What are people

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rewarded for doing? None of those things lined up with the desire or incentive to

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alter statements. The police officers are not paid anymore,

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reward anymore or in any way elevated because of closing cases faster or

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convicting students quicker. That just doesn't exist. We also looked at these

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five case files so beyond looking at all the people and making that be bigger

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than the Dolan claims actually, we actually assessed the five case files

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that he had requested. The first file had to do with a custodian losing her master

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keys. We investigated that. We reinvestigated these cases but that just

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doesn't even fit anything remotely close to the Dolan claims. Nevertheless we

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reviewed it. We interviewed the reviewing officer because he wanted to know what

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kind of things could be found in an inoculated

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case that would help us in the other more suspicious ones. The second case we

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excluded from a complete reinvestigation was a case of burgled cars in a parking

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lot. It closed because it was not sufficient evidence to pursue this

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matter and no students were even involved in that matter at all. The third

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case was someone who was actually making some paraphernalia for drugs. This did

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not feature any statements at all. The evidence was found on the student's

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person and the only penalty was suspension. However, we did interview the officer in this case

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and then we were left with two cases that might could possibly fit the Dolan claims if we were

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liberal. So we interviewed, so we did the methodology of walking through each one of

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these cases from the beginning and then from the end and then back to find any flaw or problem.

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Then we tried to find any illogic for those errors, any kind of corruption

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conditions and space and time for people to do things that were wrong. The first

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one had to do with a drug bust and it's a righteous bust. It was actually caught

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by another student. That student owns up to every single part of her statement. I

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walked her through every single line, every single word. It was her own

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handwriting. That was the incriminating statement. The administrative search was

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done properly. The evidence has been properly handled. If you track that

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that from school all the way to Fort Bend Juvenile Detention Center to DA to

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the family of the boy that was actually arrested. You don't find anything that

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leaps out at you. What you do find actually is some very good police work.

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People doing the right thing and trying to do the right thing. You have a great

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quartermaster who is praised by all officers and departed officers for

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honesty and skill. She's the person who actually maintains evidence. She's

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trusted and she could explain exactly what she does with all the evidence. She even does

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extra things above and beyond. She has her own special spreadsheet that is not even called

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for under the policies. She does it because it triples my workload but it's better to

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have it a lot of ways. I think that's great. So the evidence found its way to the proper

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person, it's weighed correctly and the arrest was done properly. There was also a case about

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a fight and we thought well maybe this checks some box. Now to be fair the fight

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case doesn't even result in anyone going to jail so it's difficult to to imagine

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that fitting the real jail part but we did look at that as much as we could

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every different way at every different angle and what we found there was just a

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very difficult dilemma. Yes sometimes parents don't agree with how charges

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come down or who gets faulted for a fight and it was a tough call but we

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We looked at every single bit of video evidence and so forth and couldn't find any incompetence,

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let alone corruption.

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So while reasonable minds could differ about the eventual punishment, the choices were

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made well within standards.

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I will reiterate, in the given time that we had, which was extremely prompt and urgent

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and thorough, I found nothing to corroborate the Dolan claims.

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claims. We went as far as we could have gone actually just given the Dolan claims. We took

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the opportunity and were asked by Superintendent and General Counsel to find anything that

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would have violated district standards, not just criminal legal standards. At this point

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I'll open it up for questions.

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Thank you Mr. Jones. Mr. Dolan, you stood and handed a paper out to people. It looks

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like you have some information. Would you mind giving a copy of that to our investigator

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Mr. Jones as well please. Okay thank you. Yes, legal inquiry. Of course go ahead Mr. Scott. At this point I'm not going to be explicit about what I want to ask. But what I want to ask indirectly is I would like for this board to reconvene back in executive session for about four minutes where I could ask our

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attorneys a question that I do not want to expose at this point in time. If I ask

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the question in public session it will be counterproductive to the interest of

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the district and I would ask that we reconvene go back there for four or five

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minutes let me ask the question and let the attorneys answer it. You need to

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trust me on this one. Madam President that is at the discretion of this Board

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of trustees this is an item which was posted on the agenda for closed session so it's would be up

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to the presiding officer if that's a decision you all want to do or if you all want to take questions

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uh some questions now and then go back it's it's it's at the discretion of the presiding officer

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it's not a frivolous question that i want to ask

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all right board we'll reconvene and close meeting for five minutes and then we'll come back out

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The board will now reconvene in open meeting. Today is February 25th 2019 and

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the time is 7 48 p.m. Mr. Jones you're welcome to come back up and we'll

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proceed board if you have any questions after Mr. Jones report. Madam President.

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Mr. Lacey. Mr. Jones thank you so much for doing what you've done. It's

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refreshing to hear that our police force is as stellar as what you have reported.

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I do have a couple of questions just to reiterate that you did cover.

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So I just want to make sure I understood you to say that you were not investigating Mr. Dolan.

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You were investigating Mr. Dolan's claims.

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Is that correct?

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Correct.

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We've never investigated Mr. Dolan.

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And once we knew he would not participate, further cooperate, we just moved on.

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Okay.

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Approximately how many total, and I'm talking big ballpark.

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I don't want to hold you to this.

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Big ballpark.

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how many billable hours do you do you feel like you may have accrued on this?

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Probably over a hundred, eighty to a hundred. And can you divulge how much you charge

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per hour? $575 for this case. Wow. Okay. It's actually that number is $475.

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I should have asked for more.

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There you go.

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I have two other quick questions.

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How many times did you ask Mr. Dolan for the information and he refused to give it to you?

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At least seven times.

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Okay.

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And lastly, by withholding this information, how much do you feel if he would have given

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this information to you up front that would have allowed you more expeditiously done this

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investigation?

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investigation, but how much would you would we have saved the district?

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So it's a little complicated, but I'll say it this way.

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80% probably would have been chopped off on the front end, but depending on what information

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Mr. Dolan gave me, then I might have had to follow those down certain threads that I don't

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know.

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But that doesn't make sense.

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Yes, sir.

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It does.

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Perfect.

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You've answered my question.

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Thank you.

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Any other board members have any questions for Mr. Jones?

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Susan, did you?

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you? Okay, go ahead Mr. Scott. He gave you five allegations that potentially involved criminal

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conduct. True or false? True. I'm sorry? True. Then at some point he subsequently told you

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that four of the allegations of criminal conduct were bogus. Yes. True or false? True. So 80 percent

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percent of his original complaint was a deliberate, willful misrepresentation of reality.

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True or false?

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If it was quantified by number of files, true.

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But I think he was probably trying to make a larger corruption claim.

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I'm not asking you to psychoanalyze him.

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Five cases of criminal allegation.

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Four, he acknowledged, according to you, he gave as a loss leader, knowing there were

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not real cases.

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Four of five.

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Yes, the way he said it is.

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So four of five is 80%.

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That's true.

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80% of the five did not include actual allegations of criminal conduct as came to you, according

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to you.

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Yes, the problem was we didn't know which for. So, there were red herrings on purpose.

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All right, secondly, or yeah, that's one topic. Secondly, he made specific

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allegations of criminal conduct, true or false.

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Yes. The conduct that he alleged, if true, would be criminal. It's a crime to change

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statements to convict people falsely. The allegations that he made, if true, could

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could violate federal statute as well.

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Absolutely.

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No question.

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No question.

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Did you record your meetings or any aspects of your meetings

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with Mr. Dolan?

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I did record my meeting with Mr. Dolan.

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So you're not talking, in honor of my English teacher, Mrs.

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Vick, you're not talking in the subjunctive tense

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when you make specific references to what he said.

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I recorded the whole conversation.

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Recorded the whole conversation.

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You have concluded, I believe, in private and now in public, that you found that there

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was no supporting evidence to support any of the underlying claims of criminal state

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or federal conduct.

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True or false?

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That is correct.

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True.

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Would the district in normal tort recovery have a claim for recovery of legal expenses

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in this situation?

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Not that you would get it, but would there be a legitimate claim?

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I feel like that's outside my scope.

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Mr. Graham.

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Thank you.

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I love restating questions.

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questions. If there was no evidence to justify, wholly no evidence to justify

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the expenditure of this investigation, would it be something that in a normal

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court of law, a court of law, that civil action for

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recovery would be considered? It is something we can definitely consider, yes

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Yes, sir.

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So the answer is yes.

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Yes, sir.

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I'm liking yes, no.

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You're crazy.

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Either of those answers is great.

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All right, the next one is this.

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Has his allegations risen above any exposure to civil litigation?

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He's made allegations of specific explicit criminal conduct.

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Do those allegations, if not substantiated and proved, rise to something more than civil conduct?

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I do not know the answer to that question.

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Mr. Graham?

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Again, I think this is something that we can consider.

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I don't think that we that the purpose of this report was not to determine that if that's something that we need to consider

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I agree that it's not but the board has a right to understand the scope of what we have been told tonight

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Understand that okay, and that's all I'm asking in the context of this public report or rather extravagant language has been used

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Rather bold determinations have been asserted

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does it rise to the point where this board has a reasonable consideration of action?

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Well, that would be contemplative litigation moving forward,

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and I am not comfortable answering that question in closed session.

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I'm going to get an answer to my question, not the question you think I'm asking.

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I'm asking, do the circumstances lend itself to a discussion of these issues,

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not a determination. Is it frivolous to even have a discussion?

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The discussion is warranted. That's it.

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Any other questions? Ms. Gassoff.

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I'd just like to talk a little bit about the scope of your investigation. So

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I ask the question, I'm going to repeat it here, but I ask a question when we discussed it in closed session

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about did you investigate every case in KDISD when a student has ended up being

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incarcerated? No we did not. That would that scale would be far too massive. Time

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wise, money wise? We'd still be investigating kind of forever. Right so

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you investigated what you felt was a reasonable sample. Did you investigate

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more than the five cases? It wasn't really a sample it was this it was the

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the actual specific list of case file numbers that Sean Dolan requested in the

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Dolan claims in the PIR request I'm sorry but we made reasonable inferences

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to go beyond that and how we did that and it was something we debated

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internally was we try to find the allegedly dirty cop the old-fashioned

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way let's assume we didn't even have those face five case files so we went

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that way just gumshoe but then we also looked at the five files to say surely

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this has some one of these has some relation to the claims otherwise Mr.

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Dolan is just making the whole thing up completely and we just gave him the

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benefit of the doubt and said maybe there's one case file that he has

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sincere questions about he wouldn't tell us which one it was but we did that and

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then the final one was we kind of roamed freely in the department and elsewhere

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even in schools and talked to campus assigned officers as well as people in

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the department and then we had the final failsafe of getting even disgruntled you know people that

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have been fired ex-officers to try and find even one little tiny rumor and do you feel like this

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created stress for our police force they took it very seriously but I will say I think they took

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it in the right attitude which was it's going to make us better okay okay Madam President could I

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Can I just make a quick statement?

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I would just like to say to the officers in this room

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and the officers that serve Katy ISD,

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thank you for showing up every day.

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Thank you for protecting our children and our community.

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Thank you for working nights and weekends.

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Thank you for being the ones who run in

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when the rest of us wanna run out.

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Thank you for your service.

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Thank you for loving our kids.

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Madam President, may I?

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Ms. Champagne, of course.

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That was very nice.

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Of course, everybody in here would like to ditto what Ms. Kessoff just said.

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But my question is, as a layperson, I don't know anything about case files

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and even how to find those.

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How would he have the case file numbers?

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How does a person get access to the case file numbers?

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I don't know and he wouldn't tell me, but the fact that he would know specific numbers of case files, there's only a couple of avenues in there, right?

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There would be the families involved, the actual students, or there would be an officer who would leak that or an ex-officer who would tell him that.

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Or he could have personally been involved but he wasn't in those cases.

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Is that all Ms. Champagne?

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Ms. Phan.

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I don't have a question so much as just to make a comment just to reiterate some things that you said that resounded with me back in closing now.

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now. Your findings found that KDIC police force has a strong commitment to lawfulness

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and a dedicated to integrity and definitely has an adherence to detail sometimes, you

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said to a point of over managing and that nothing was found to collaborate the claims

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that were made. If the claims that were made were made by someone with good faith and someone

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who was sincere, they would have ultimately worked with you from the very beginning.

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beginning. For sure, yes. Any other statements or questions from the Board?

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Okay. Thank you, Mr. Jones. Thank you. Appreciate your report. Board, I will direct you to agenda

Consent Agenda

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item six, consent agenda. Madam President. Mr. Lacey. I move that the Board of Trustees

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approve the consent agenda as recommended in items 6.1 through 6.17.

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I have a motion by Mr. Lacey, a second by Ms. Vann that the Board of Trustees

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approves the consent agenda as recommended in items 6.1 through 6.17.

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We will now proceed to vote. All those in favor please raise your right hand and

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say aye. Aye. All those opposed? Motion passes. Next we're going to move to

Item 7.1

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agenda item 7.1 consider board approval of the naming elementary school number 42 as recommended

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by the naming advisory committee madam president miss fox i move that the board of trustees

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names elementary school number 42 located at 2602 winchester ranch trail olga leonard elementary

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as recommended by the naming advisory committee i have a motion by miss fox a second by miss van

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that the Board of Trustees names Elementary School number 42 located at 2602 Winchester

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Ranch Trail, Olga Leonard Elementary School as recommended by the Naming Advisory Committee.

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Do we have any discussion? Hearing none, we'll proceed to vote. All those in favor,

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please raise your right hand and say aye. Aye. All those opposed, motion passes.

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ask us.

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Can you take a picture?

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Please go ahead and stand.

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Go ahead and stand up.

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Ms. Leonard?

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Yeah.

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Ms. Leonard, if you'd please come forward.

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We'd like to take a picture with you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Next on our agenda is agenda item 8.1.

Item 8.1

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Mr. Scott is going to give a report on his upcoming presentation at the Mexican American

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School Board Association, MASBA 2019 National Convention.

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Mr. Scott.

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I appreciate the opportunity to have served on the Texas Association of School Boards

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on behalf of the district for the last couple of years.

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I think I'm going to miss that as much as I miss being here.

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As an adjunct to that and as part of that service on TASB,

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I've made a very special effort to reach out to minority members of the board of TASB

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and to minority members of course of the Mexican American School Board Association.

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The state of Texas has spent 30 years lying about academic equity gaps, not

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telling the truth about our responsibility to at-risk minority kids.

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I have visited with dozens and dozens of members of TASB and MOSBA and it's a

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It's a great honor that they've asked me to present a major presentation at their national

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convention later this week, and I look forward to doing that.

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The topic will be on equity, touching on school finance, and I just want to say to KTISD,

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I very much appreciate the opportunity to have been in this role.

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I've tried to serve you with respect and dignity up there.

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there are a tremendous number of people who understand the challenges that are confronting public education

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beyond the public relations, beyond the glitz, and this opportunity to speak at their national convention

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is a great honor, and I'll try not to waste it. Thank you.

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Thank you very much, Mr. Scott.

Item 8.2

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Agenda item 8.2, donated items to Katy Independent School District.

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The board has been provided a copy of that.

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future meetings board work-study meeting is Monday March 18th 2019 regular board

Item 9

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meeting March 25th 2019 the board will now convene and close meeting is

Items 10 - 12

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authorized intersection five five one point zero zero one of the Texas

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government code for the following purposes Texas government code five five

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one point zero seven one five five one point one two nine five five one point

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zero eight two one and five five one point zero seven four please clear the

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boardroom thank you 25th 2019 and the time is 8 44 p.m the board heard a level 3 fng grievance

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in closed meeting regarding case number fng 18-018 in accordance with chapter 551 of the

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texas government code any action regarding this matter must be taken in an open meeting

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madam president mr scott i move that the board of trustees deny the level 3 fng grievance in fng 18

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018-018, thereby upholding the decision of the level 1 and level 2 hearing officers.

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I have a motion by Mr. Scott, a second by Mr. Lacey, that the Board of Trustees denies

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the level 3 FNG grievance in FNG 18-018, thereby upholding the decision of the level 1 and

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level 2 hearing officers.

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All those in favor, please raise your right hand and say aye.

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Aye.

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All those opposed?

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Motion passes.

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There being no further business before the board this meeting is adjourned. The time is 845

Official documents

Agenda

The district's own agenda file, as published on its video page. 4 pages.

Official agenda, Regular Board Meeting, 25 February 2019 →

Board packet · 44 documents

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Motions and votes

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MOTION 001 · AGENDA 3.1

Passed

It is recommended that the Board of Trustees approves the personnel report as recommended by the superintendent in Closed Meeting.

Moved by
bill-lacy
Seconded by
rebecca-fox

7 Yes · 0 No

TrusteeVote
ashley-vann Yes
bill-lacy Yes
courtney-doyle Yes
dawn-champagne Yes
george-scott Yes
rebecca-fox Yes
susan-gesoff Yes

MOTION 002 · AGENDA 3.2

Passed

It is recommended that the Board of Trustees approves the administrative contracts as recommended by the superintendent in Closed Meeting.

Moved by
bill-lacy
Seconded by
ashley-vann

7 Yes · 0 No

TrusteeVote
ashley-vann Yes
bill-lacy Yes
courtney-doyle Yes
dawn-champagne Yes
george-scott Yes
rebecca-fox Yes
susan-gesoff Yes

MOTION 003 · AGENDA 3.3

Passed

It is recommended that the Board of Trustees approves the release of the report on the Katy ISD Police Department.

Moved by
bill-lacy
Seconded by
ashley-vann

7 Yes · 0 No

TrusteeVote
ashley-vann Yes
bill-lacy Yes
courtney-doyle Yes
dawn-champagne Yes
george-scott Yes
rebecca-fox Yes
susan-gesoff Yes

MOTION 004 · AGENDA 6.1

Passed

It is recommended that the Board of Trustees approves the Consent Agenda Items 6.1 - 6.17.

Moved by
bill-lacy
Seconded by
ashley-vann

7 Yes · 0 No

TrusteeVote
ashley-vann Yes
bill-lacy Yes
courtney-doyle Yes
dawn-champagne Yes
george-scott Yes
rebecca-fox Yes
susan-gesoff Yes

MOTION 005 · AGENDA 6.2

Passed

It is recommended that the Board of Trustees approves the Consent Agenda Items 6.1 - 6.17.

Moved by
bill-lacy
Seconded by
ashley-vann

7 Yes · 0 No

TrusteeVote
ashley-vann Yes
bill-lacy Yes
courtney-doyle Yes
dawn-champagne Yes
george-scott Yes
rebecca-fox Yes
susan-gesoff Yes

MOTION 006 · AGENDA 6.3

Passed

It is recommended that the Board of Trustees approves the Consent Agenda Items 6.1 - 6.17.

Moved by
bill-lacy
Seconded by
ashley-vann

7 Yes · 0 No

TrusteeVote
ashley-vann Yes
bill-lacy Yes
courtney-doyle Yes
dawn-champagne Yes
george-scott Yes
rebecca-fox Yes
susan-gesoff Yes

MOTION 007 · AGENDA 6.4

Passed

It is recommended that the Board of Trustees approves the Consent Agenda Items 6.1 - 6.17.

Moved by
bill-lacy
Seconded by
ashley-vann

7 Yes · 0 No

TrusteeVote
ashley-vann Yes
bill-lacy Yes
courtney-doyle Yes
dawn-champagne Yes
george-scott Yes
rebecca-fox Yes
susan-gesoff Yes

MOTION 008 · AGENDA 6.5

Passed

It is recommended that the Board of Trustees approves the Consent Agenda Items 6.1 - 6.17.

Moved by
bill-lacy
Seconded by
ashley-vann

7 Yes · 0 No

TrusteeVote
ashley-vann Yes
bill-lacy Yes
courtney-doyle Yes
dawn-champagne Yes
george-scott Yes
rebecca-fox Yes
susan-gesoff Yes

MOTION 009 · AGENDA 6.6

Passed

It is recommended that the Board of Trustees approves the Consent Agenda Items 6.1 - 6.17.

Moved by
bill-lacy
Seconded by
ashley-vann

7 Yes · 0 No

TrusteeVote
ashley-vann Yes
bill-lacy Yes
courtney-doyle Yes
dawn-champagne Yes
george-scott Yes
rebecca-fox Yes
susan-gesoff Yes

MOTION 010 · AGENDA 6.7

Passed

It is recommended that the Board of Trustees approves the Consent Agenda Items 6.1 - 6.17.

Moved by
bill-lacy
Seconded by
ashley-vann

7 Yes · 0 No

TrusteeVote
ashley-vann Yes
bill-lacy Yes
courtney-doyle Yes
dawn-champagne Yes
george-scott Yes
rebecca-fox Yes
susan-gesoff Yes

MOTION 011 · AGENDA 6.8

Passed

It is recommended that the Board of Trustees approves the Consent Agenda Items 6.1 - 6.17.

Moved by
bill-lacy
Seconded by
ashley-vann

7 Yes · 0 No

TrusteeVote
ashley-vann Yes
bill-lacy Yes
courtney-doyle Yes
dawn-champagne Yes
george-scott Yes
rebecca-fox Yes
susan-gesoff Yes

MOTION 012 · AGENDA 6.9

Passed

It is recommended that the Board of Trustees approves the Consent Agenda Items 6.1 - 6.17.

Moved by
bill-lacy
Seconded by
ashley-vann

7 Yes · 0 No

TrusteeVote
ashley-vann Yes
bill-lacy Yes
courtney-doyle Yes
dawn-champagne Yes
george-scott Yes
rebecca-fox Yes
susan-gesoff Yes

MOTION 013 · AGENDA 6.10

Passed

It is recommended that the Board of Trustees approves the Consent Agenda Items 6.1 - 6.17.

Moved by
bill-lacy
Seconded by
ashley-vann

7 Yes · 0 No

TrusteeVote
ashley-vann Yes
bill-lacy Yes
courtney-doyle Yes
dawn-champagne Yes
george-scott Yes
rebecca-fox Yes
susan-gesoff Yes

MOTION 014 · AGENDA 6.11

Passed

It is recommended that the Board of Trustees approves the Consent Agenda Items 6.1 - 6.17.

Moved by
bill-lacy
Seconded by
ashley-vann

7 Yes · 0 No

TrusteeVote
ashley-vann Yes
bill-lacy Yes
courtney-doyle Yes
dawn-champagne Yes
george-scott Yes
rebecca-fox Yes
susan-gesoff Yes

MOTION 015 · AGENDA 6.12

Passed

It is recommended that the Board of Trustees approves the Consent Agenda Items 6.1 - 6.17.

Moved by
bill-lacy
Seconded by
ashley-vann

7 Yes · 0 No

TrusteeVote
ashley-vann Yes
bill-lacy Yes
courtney-doyle Yes
dawn-champagne Yes
george-scott Yes
rebecca-fox Yes
susan-gesoff Yes

MOTION 016 · AGENDA 6.13

Passed

It is recommended that the Board of Trustees approves the Consent Agenda Items 6.1 - 6.17.

Moved by
bill-lacy
Seconded by
ashley-vann

7 Yes · 0 No

TrusteeVote
ashley-vann Yes
bill-lacy Yes
courtney-doyle Yes
dawn-champagne Yes
george-scott Yes
rebecca-fox Yes
susan-gesoff Yes

MOTION 017 · AGENDA 6.14

Passed

It is recommended that the Board of Trustees approves the Consent Agenda Items 6.1 - 6.17.

Moved by
bill-lacy
Seconded by
ashley-vann

7 Yes · 0 No

TrusteeVote
ashley-vann Yes
bill-lacy Yes
courtney-doyle Yes
dawn-champagne Yes
george-scott Yes
rebecca-fox Yes
susan-gesoff Yes

MOTION 018 · AGENDA 6.15

Passed

It is recommended that the Board of Trustees approves the Consent Agenda Items 6.1 - 6.17.

Moved by
bill-lacy
Seconded by
ashley-vann

7 Yes · 0 No

TrusteeVote
ashley-vann Yes
bill-lacy Yes
courtney-doyle Yes
dawn-champagne Yes
george-scott Yes
rebecca-fox Yes
susan-gesoff Yes

MOTION 019 · AGENDA 6.16

Passed

It is recommended that the Board of Trustees approves the Consent Agenda Items 6.1 - 6.17.

Moved by
bill-lacy
Seconded by
ashley-vann

7 Yes · 0 No

TrusteeVote
ashley-vann Yes
bill-lacy Yes
courtney-doyle Yes
dawn-champagne Yes
george-scott Yes
rebecca-fox Yes
susan-gesoff Yes

MOTION 020 · AGENDA 6.17

Passed

It is recommended that the Board of Trustees approves the Consent Agenda Items 6.1 - 6.17.

Moved by
bill-lacy
Seconded by
ashley-vann

7 Yes · 0 No

TrusteeVote
ashley-vann Yes
bill-lacy Yes
courtney-doyle Yes
dawn-champagne Yes
george-scott Yes
rebecca-fox Yes
susan-gesoff Yes

MOTION 021 · AGENDA 7.1

Passed

It is recommended that the Board of Trustees names Elementary School #42 located at 2602 Winchester Ranch Trail Olga Leonard Elementary School as recommended by the Naming Advisory Committee.

Moved by
rebecca-fox
Seconded by
ashley-vann

7 Yes · 0 No

TrusteeVote
ashley-vann Yes
bill-lacy Yes
courtney-doyle Yes
dawn-champagne Yes
george-scott Yes
rebecca-fox Yes
susan-gesoff Yes

MOTION 022 · AGENDA 11.1

Passed

It is recommended that the Board of Trustees denies the Level Three FNG grievance in FNG 18-018, thereby upholding the decision of the Level One and Level Two hearing officers.

Moved by
george-scott
Seconded by
bill-lacy

7 Yes · 0 No

TrusteeVote
ashley-vann Yes
bill-lacy Yes
courtney-doyle Yes
dawn-champagne Yes
george-scott Yes
rebecca-fox Yes
susan-gesoff Yes