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Katy ISD Board Work Study Meeting, December 4, 2017

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The Board will now reconvene in open meeting. Today is Monday, December 4th, 2017 and the time is 6.41 p.m.

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The Board met earlier this evening in closed meeting. Any action arising from discussions in a closed meeting must be taken in a subsequent open meeting.

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Dr. Hinn, will you verify that we are in compliance with the provisions of the Texas Open Meetings Act in regard to the notice for this meeting?

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Madam President, we are in compliance with the notice for this meeting tonight.

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We'll move to item number 3.1, consider board approval of the purchase of the property for the district functions.

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Resolution of the Board of Trustees of Katy Independent School District concerning the purchase of real property.

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The Board of Trustees of Katy Independent School District, the district, makes the following findings in connection with the proposed purchase of a 10-acre tract of real property located at the intersection of Universal Park Drive and Mason Road, and more fully depicted in the attached Exhibit A and the improvements located thereon.

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Collectively, the property. The University of Houston is current owner of the property and desires to sell the property. The district has been occupying the property under a temporary lease and now desires to purchase the property.

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and the District and the University of Houston have negotiated a purchase price equal to $6,700,000.

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Therefore, it be resolved that the Katy Independent School District Board of Trustees hereby approves a purchase of the property for purchase price plus attendant closing and due diligence costs

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to authorize the District Superintendent to negotiate and execute the sale and purchase agreement substantially similar to that attached hereto as Exhibit B.

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And three, authorizes the district superintendent to execute all other documents necessary to consummate the purchase and closing of the property.

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Passed the fourth day of December, well, not passed yet.

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Okay.

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Madam President.

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Mr. Griffin.

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I move that the Board of Trustees enters into an agreement to purchase from the University of Houston an approximate 10-acre parcel of property for a total acquisition cost estimated not to exceed $7,236,000.

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Second.

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We have a motion by Mr. Griffin and a second by Ms. Doyle.

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The Board of Trustees enters into an agreement to purchase from the University of Houston

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an approximate 10-acre parcel of property for a total acquisition cost not to exceed $7,236,000.

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Do we have any questions or discussion?

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Madam President, I think this might possibly be one of the best real estate purchases in the history of KDISD.

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Thank you. Anyone else?

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Madam President.

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Mr. Griffin.

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Dr. Hemp, what do you plan on doing with this property?

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Not 100% sure. Of course, we'd bring that back to the board.

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We've got several options out there.

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We've got some programs that we can look at,

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whether they are programs that are currently housed in our schools

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or housed in some of our administration buildings.

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Not ready to commit on that right now,

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but I will bring it back to the board before we make any final decision

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for the board to be fully aware. Thank you. Madam President. Ms. Fox. So Dr. Hintz I think it was

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brilliant that while you were managing all the flood stuff happening and

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opening shelters for our community and and taking care of flooded schools that

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my understanding is you drove past the property and thought hmm wonder if that

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would work for Creech Elementary and long hours and late in the night was

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was able to make an agreement with the University of Houston

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so that our boys and girls would have somewhere to go.

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And it has served us very, very well.

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We are not, you do not intend to keep Creech Elementary there.

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We'll return to Creech Elementary next school year, correct?

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That is correct.

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And then the potential for all the numerous things that happen in KDICD

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that could be used at this new KDICD property I think are endless,

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and I'm excited to see what we do with it.

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I'm grateful that you found it. I'm grateful to the U of H for working with us on this and I too agree with Mr. Scott. I think it's a great purchase. Thank you for bringing it to us.

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I appreciate that. It wasn't you though or me. It was we. There was a lot of people that played a part in it.

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Madam President.

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Mr. Lacey.

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Just in the difference, it's my understanding the difference in the sales price and the difference of the $7.236 million will be in closing costs and that we were represented by internal counsel.

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That is correct.

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We didn't have any external fees on this, typically a 3% fee, finder's fee more or less.

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That's a not to exceed price.

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We do anticipate coming in less than the approval price.

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anyone else okay there being no further discussion we will take a vote all in

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favor please raise your right hand and say aye motion passes six to the motion

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passes six to zero this fourth day of December 2017 mr. Halsky was unable to

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join us this evening we'll move on to item 3.2 consider board approval

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about personnel report. Madam President. Ms. Griffin. I'm Ms. Doyle. I did. I did. Hey, at least I didn't call you Ashley. That would have been really scary since you are here. I move that the Board of Trustees approves the personnel report as recommended by the Superintendent in closed meeting. Second. Who was that? It was Mr. Griffin. Yeah. A motion has been made by Ms. Doyle and a second by Mr. Griffin of the Board of Trustees.

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approves the personnel report as recommended by the superintendent in

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closed meeting discussion all in favor please raise your right hand and say aye

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motion passes six to zero are there any scouts in the audience still don't think

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they've found us yet okay we'll move on to the report section of our agenda out

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of 4.1 junior reserve officers training core the JROTC program requirements and

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future JROTC program expansion. Mr. Gregorski. Before he gets that mic I want to just say that as the board is fully aware being that we had two members of the board that put a plate apart in the strategic plan that the board approved or as we call it the strategic design. There are multiple actions in that plan that we bring back to the board to report to you on and to more or less seek your input and possible recommendation. This is the

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the first that we're reporting in public to the board and I'm excited about

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hearing Mr. Grzegorski's report to us. Thank you Dr. Hint. Good evening President

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Vann, Board of Trustees and Dr. Hint. As part of our strategic design process as

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Dr. Hint just mentioned we created some specific actions and goals which I'm

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going to go through. One of them was specifically to examine JROTC, look at

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program availability costs and whether or not we get additional programs in our

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district so I put up there you can take a look at that that's our part of our

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strategic design it's our call to action and then under our call to action we

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have multiple goals throughout the strategic design process the one we're

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talking about today has to do with personalized learning environments or

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personalized learning experiences and specifically it is specific result 1.6

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that would explore program requirements within the JROTC programs into all of our

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high schools if that's a possibility. I put up here, you know, Maid Creek, we have one program.

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It's a Navy. JROTC has been at Maid Creek for quite a while. It's the only one in the district,

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and I put up there, I put their program goals up there, and I put in there the mission,

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which is the second part, and I want to touch on that mission a little bit because I'm going to go

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back to that a little bit later in the presentation, but program mission is talking about working with

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with kids, citizenship, leadership, hard work, determination, those types of things.

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And I think those will come out a little bit later when we talk about whether or not we

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should expand a program or not.

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Once again, May Creek, I'm going to talk about their goals and objectives.

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There are similar goals and objectives in all four of the branches, which we'll talk

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a little bit about.

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But I'm going to focus most of what we're doing and talking about is the Navy, and I'll

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explain why I want to talk about the Navy program specifically tonight as we go through

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some of these slides.

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Some of those slides are a little bit busy with a lot of information on them.

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I'm not going to read all those slides and you guys have those presentations

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with you so you can see them but I didn't want to leave out any information

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from the Navy and kind of cut just small snippets of it because they do a pretty

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thorough job on their website with a lot of information. So this is your minimum

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requirements. If we wanted to start up a program at a school we need to come up

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with a minimum of 100 students in the program. We have to come up with two

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instructors one must be an officer listed in there what's the recommended

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physical space for a program that has a hundred to 150 cadets okay so that's

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what we need at each school we're gonna break this down a little bit as we go

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through so you'll see a little bit more about that so a new program availability

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there's your four branches that offer a JROTC program as you'll see the Army and

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Marines they're not accepting applications at this time Navy and Air

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Air Force. There's possibilities with those two programs, but after exploring

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the Air Force, Texas is considered an over-prescribed state, so there's a

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there's not really a strong chance of getting anything with the Air Force

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either. The Navy is taking some applications, but the current status is

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waitlist, and I'm going to talk a little bit about what waitlist means as we

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go through the presentation in a couple of slides. So what would we do if

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if everything is a wait list like it is on there.

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Our alternative is this.

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It's National Defense Corps Cadets,

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and I don't know if you guys are very familiar with that program,

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but I'll lead you a little bit through what that is

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and what that would mean for us as a district moving forward.

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But what I call it is it's a gateway into an approved, established,

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shared teaching program that would be partly funded by the federal government.

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So there's your National Defense Corps Cadets.

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It's just like or very close, very similar to an NJROTC,

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very similar experiences, the same curriculum, the same guidelines. What

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you'll see is a couple of slight differences in there. We can start up the

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defense corps cadets with only 50 kids instead of 100 as you're growing the

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program, which is a positive, but as you'll also see on there we're going to

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pick up the entire cost for that program and I'm going to get into costs a little

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bit later on the last slide to show you a breakdown of what happens if you're

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JROTC versus defense corps cadets and what those costs look like for a

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district but you also see that I call it a gateway into a program because there's

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a 200 school plus waiting list right now if we submitted application when it's

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application time it's going to sit behind 200 plus schools with really no

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movement of changing and I'll show you what that really looks like as we go

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through these slides so there's a whole bunch of busy information on this one

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what I want to point to is the citizenship development the leadership

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development and it's taught by our retired service members. Okay, those are

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the key points of this. They're exactly the same. They're both the same, has to be

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taught by retired service members. The only difference between the two is the

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NJRTC requires two instructors, NDCC requires one instructor, but they focus

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them on the same things on citizenship and leadership development. Here's a list

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of all the integrated co-curricular activities that could be part of a

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program so that's when we get to looking at our information is it a good thing to

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move forward if you think these are good things for our kids to compete be part

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of you would probably answer yes to that question that should we expand or at

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least look at an expansion these are great things for our kids to go through

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and be part of as they experience that leadership and citizenship here's a

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Here's a slide that shows you currently, and when I talk about the history of the Navy,

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I think this is the important part.

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This is where everything kind of comes down to with the Navy.

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You'll see what they started with back in 1966.

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You'll see how many units they have today.

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You see their cadets on there.

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You see the expansion.

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What I can tell you about the Navy is it's just like the other three branches that we

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talked about.

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The Navy's not expanding.

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That 616 is where it's at.

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Now that doesn't mean they would never expand, but there's a good chance they

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are not going to expand anytime soon. So I don't have a whole lot of faith in

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them expanding. So you say well if they're not expanding how are we going

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to get an opportunity? Okay and that's through repurposed units. Okay so part of

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this is with those 616 each year that units that are not in good standing okay

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and the Navy tells me that's anywhere from zero some years up to about three

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per year. If you're not in good standing means you drop below your 100 threshold

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for a period of time, you can't find certified Navy retired officers to come

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in and do it. Those would be a couple of reasons you might lose your unit and

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then a unit becomes a repurposed unit. Okay so when I talk about the Navy a

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couple of good reasons why I'm focused on the Navy with this one we already

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have a Navy unit in good standing and a good relationship with the Navy. If we

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choose to look at an NNDC, which now would become a Navy NNDCC, okay, Defense Corps Cadets,

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we would be in good alignment that I've talked to the Navy personally, I've talked to the

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commander down in Florida and talked to him about possibilities of expanding because I

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realize we're behind a wait list, but he tells me that if we established our NNDCC units

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units and we could fund them ourselves for a period of time, show sustainability, which he talked to at least two years, get 100 cadets in there, that they would move us up on the wait list within the top 10 of units. So that's much better than being on 200 plus. That's why I go back to saying if we just put an application in with any of the services, it's just going to sit there and probably not be approved. If we go this alternative route that I'm talking about, there's a good chance in a couple of years we might have an opportunity for them to roll over.

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from an NDCC to an actual NJR2 TC and then go ahead and fund most of those costs.

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So when we talk about the costs, that's what a breakdown is.

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When I throw that instructor pay out there for $75,000, that's a ballpark estimate

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because it goes off of minimum instructor pay.

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There's a formula for that.

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So depending on what level you hire your officer at, that's how much pay he or she would receive.

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So that's a ballpark in there.

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You see the cost of what it would start as kind of a startup cost.

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If you break it down, you'll see for the NJRTC, we pick up the cost of basically one instructor.

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It's really they pay half for each instructor, but that's a whole other thing.

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We don't really want to get into the formulas on it, but it comes out to about half.

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So we pay one, they pay one.

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They pick up the cost of everything else, including uniforms and everything else.

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But if we go the other route of trying to establish the NJRTC, fund it for a couple of years,

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and then apply for NJRTC, we've got to come up with about $100,000 of our money to pay the instructor,

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pay the uniforms costs, et cetera.

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They supply the curriculum for free while we're in NDCC.

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The other thing I want to point you on there is be careful when you see the cost of uniform.

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That's at the 50 cadet minimum to start.

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But if we started one with 100 cadets, you can just obviously see that would double in cost as a startup on that.

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Now, moving forward, I put a couple of recommendations or next steps in there.

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we could survey interest and I say six through ten because it's going to cost

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it take us some time to establish the program so if kids are interested and

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they would want to do that we could apply for an application as early as

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next fall they apply only one time per year as I put it on there and in the

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fall you apply the spring they tell you if you get in so if we wanted to do

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something the earliest because we've already missed this fall it was due

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November I can't remember the date but it was November so if we apply next year

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or 2018 we would know by 2019 we could create a unit by 2019 or 20. A couple of

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things to think about what that is can we get 50 kids at each school can we get

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a hundred kids at each school do we examine a program similar like

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May Creek has we've got one program we've got total open enrollment right

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now in the district which means any kid who wants to go to May Creek for that

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program can go it's a transfer process got approximately I think 127 kids in

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the program are 121 right now. 94 are Maid Creek students so the rest are

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transfers in to go there full day or part day for the program. So we've got to

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be cognizant that if we create a program are we going to take some of those kids

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out that are transferred over there. So we need to think about that because we

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don't want that program to drop under the 100 threshold or then they're in a

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subject where they could be repurposed one day. So we got to think about that. I

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did put on there that possibly if there's only enough interest in the

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the district to create one unit south of the freeway then we could look at that

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option at one of the schools have one north and anyone north of the freeway

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that transfers could go to make Creek we could look at an option south of the

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freeway to start a unit with 50 or 100 kids and transfer people that way but we

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also got to look in at enrollments of schools and functional capacities and

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all sorts of things like that to to examine that but I think the key part of

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this is our kids interested in this program do they want this program and

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And that's one of the questions in the specific result.

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Explore the feasibility of it, and is it good for our kids?

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Well, if we think citizenship and development are good for kids, leadership opportunities,

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if we think patriotism, hard work, determination, grit, all those things that the Navy stands for,

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well, then we can move forward with doing that.

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But do the kids want to take it?

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Will they sign up for it and be a part of that program?

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With that said, I will go ahead and entertain any questions you might have,

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or if there's any further research you need me to do or collect any information

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for you happy to do that too.

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Mr. President.

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Thank you for the outstanding brief.

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The information is awesome and I'm glad you kind of said the pros and cons and then

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you kind of go up to the board and say hey what do you think.

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I love that we have the program at Maidy Creek.

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I love the opportunities that the kids in the entire district have but I don't see

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them knocking down the door and I don't see the community coming to us and saying

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hey we really want to expand this program.

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So I know from my perspective, I appreciate what we're doing, but I don't

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see right now either the need from the students or the community to push

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forward with the extra money. But I'm glad that you have that because man if

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all of a sudden next year you start to see 150, 200, 250 kids all wanting to go to

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Mayday Creek, you know then I think it would be time to push to the south. But

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outstanding job and thumbs up all the way around. Thank you.

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Madam President. Mr. Scott. Do you have an indication of any additional current interest from the other side or would it be with the survey that you envision, would it be starting fresh in effect for everybody that's not in ROTC now?

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It's hard to gauge if kids would be interested if we have one closer to home or on their home campus

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And I don't know that without surveying the kids and asking them that I do know we get very little interest when I said

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There's approximately 27. I've got the numbers here kids who transfer over there if you want to know that breakdown

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Four of them are from Katie four from Taylor 13 and from Morton Ranch two from Cinco four from Tompkins

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So that kind of gives you an idea of who would transfer over there at least go to the program at make Creek

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Would there be more interest if there were one closer? I'm not sure.

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I did speak with the instructors at May Creek about a lot of this.

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And one of the questions I did ask them is, you know, I mean, why don't more kids come?

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And part of it is transportation for your younger kids.

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You know what I mean?

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If you're not driving, you can't get there and back as easily.

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So that is a barrier sometimes.

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And the distance coming all the way from, say, a Tompkins over to May Creek, that's quite a drive for some of the kids.

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I don't have any problems with surveying south, everywhere of course, but it seems the focus is to try to get one on the south side.

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But I don't have any problems with an aggressive survey effort to identify potential interest.

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I guess the question I would have, would you catch me up, how long have we been doing this?

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and of the kids that have gone through the program do we have any outcome

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measurements of how productive this program has been in helping them be more

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effective post high school those are good questions and I couldn't tell you

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if we've ever done like a program evaluation of the JRTC program I did run

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some numbers for the past five years and we run anywhere for a high of 150 I

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I believe, down to a low over time of, excuse me, a 130 in 2014,

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down to a low in 2015, a 105, then it goes back up to 127, 124, and 121 this year.

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So that kind of gives you an idea of the interest in there.

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But I'm not aware of any program evaluation we've done of anything with the kids.

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I'd be interested in what Rebecca says because we were on that strategic committee,

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and I feel very personally committed to doing everything that I can do as an

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individual board member to try to see that the ideas and the concepts of that

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that strategic design are at least given a fair chance to succeed so I would be

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very supportive of is there a program review we now have extraordinary video

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video production writing capability, could we produce a video, a presentation that could

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be shown throughout the district to try to see if they know what the program is, would

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you be interested?

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Certainly.

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I feel, I don't know about you Rebecca, I'd like for you to address this as well, but

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But I feel like we have an obligation to try to do what we can to give that committee's recommendation a fair shot.

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Madam President.

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Ms. Fox.

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Go ahead, Ms. McDowell.

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Sorry.

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No, go ahead, Ms. Fox.

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Go ahead.

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Okay.

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Thank you, Mr. Krakorski, for your presentation.

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Appreciate it very much.

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We've been talking about this as a board for many years, actually, probably six or seven.

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And there has been interest throughout our district to increase it.

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I know I get calls from Cinco and Seven Lakes and Tompkins parents, not all the

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time, but but pretty, pretty, you know, certainly more than six of them that

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wonder why don't we have that? Why don't we have that at our school? We moved here

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and KDISD is amazing and there's no, and JROTC, how, why not? And so I tell them

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that getting the instructors is the, is the problem. So there is more interest.

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It's just they don't want to leave their home campus. The same reason children

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don't go to Miller's because they don't want to be away from their friends at

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lunch right they want to be with their friends between class periods so they

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want to stay at their home campus would they transfer you know within a smaller

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radius then travel all the way over to Main Creek I think they would and mr.

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Tompkins mr. Tompkins came to us and asked us if he could try a pilot program

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at Main Creek High School and start this in JROTC it's one of the things he's

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most proud of it's amazing every person who sees them perform or anytime you see

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them and they come to our board meetings and they're at football games we see

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them at halftime we see them present the color sorry before the game they're just

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an impressive group of young people and it's everyone knows I I respond more to

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them you know a lot to emotion but it's it's very impressive to see our young

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people have the kind of leadership and grit and determination that you talked

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about so I certainly am supportive of a survey to see if we have enough interest

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the thing we've talked about in the past is exactly the presentation you gave

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that the weight the reason we haven't expanded it many years ago was because

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of the waitlist but we were told the same thing if you put it in for a couple

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of years and they see that you're successful and you mean it the

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government will fund the program for us so I think it's an investment in our

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students I think it's investment in their future it certainly will teach

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them strong skills and I don't know if there's enough interest to have another

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hundred 150 but I'm interested in seeing if there is thank you I think this box

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covers pretty much everything I wanted to say my question was mr. Lavarsky

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similar to Miller do we even know that other high school students are even

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aware of this program. So I do think it's fair to do some type of survey, some type

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of video like Mr. Scott was recommending to educate all campuses and all students

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hey this is available. I don't know that our students really even are aware of it

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and so it's very hard to determine the need. So I'm in favor of taking a look at

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that as well and trying to get some numbers because we have talked about

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this program at length and I know that the kids who are participating in it

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absolutely love it and it's been a great thing for them so it'd be nice if we

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could offer it at more campuses. Okay. Madam President. Mr. Lacey. I do have a couple of

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questions for you. I'm glad to see I wrote down very early that if we even

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looked into rather than trying to leave it at Main Creek if we could perhaps

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move it to something like a Miller I don't know I'm sure we don't have the

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space and I know that we're already fairly full here but I know that we do

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have bus buses going from from Miller to other schools and so it could take care

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of the transportation issue I do one of the questions I had is this a we allowed

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if we continue with the Navy ROTC can we have like a satellite I'm using my hands

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Can we have like a satellite on the south side where they meet and then they get together at a large meeting or is that an option as well?

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That's a very good question because there were some school districts doing these satellites as you talk about and they call them satellites.

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So it is a real thing and to tell you the truth, I heard there was, that's the gentleman I talked to in Florida.

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He's over all the programs and I heard he was more favorable on the satellites.

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So I called him to try and get some permissions.

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and what he told me was the the their legal department through the Navy had

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shut that down that they wouldn't allow them to do the satellites anymore so if

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you hear about schools doing satellites those were kind of approved in the past

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or had done but they won't initiate any new satellites to kind of do that kind

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of pocket you'd mentioned Miller Career Center their spring branch does their

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JRTC through a very similar program I've talked to that gentleman over there

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kids do bus over and create that you know I mean the pros and cons like I'm

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talking about would we take that out of out of May Creek after so many years of

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success and so many wonderful things going on over there that would be a real

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challenge in there how could you expand another one over there possibly with

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that tap into that I'm not sure I think there's so many variables out there that

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are kind of unknowns about it that this time the surveying might be the best

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answer and kind of kind of go from there I agree with the survey I do have one

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other question so I know that there's also groups separate groups that are

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outside the JROTC groups there's Sea Cadets for the Air Force it's the Civil

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Air Patrol patrolling that right Mr. Griffin? What's that? The Civil Air Patrol that's the Air

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Force group but is that a that's a different program that's private right so

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that's more like a club as you have referenced in your thing there are I

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talked to one outside organization it wasn't either of the two you just

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mentioned but there are some private companies out there that are quote

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quote-unquote, for-profit, not-for-profit type.

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They'll get you started.

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They'll get you uniforms.

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They'll get you a curriculum,

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and they'll deliver everything they claim is just like an NJRTC,

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and you can start them up immediately.

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But what you can't do is compete in all of the NJRTC-type activities.

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You know what I mean?

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You can do the marching, the events, and all those kind of things.

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You just couldn't represent at a lot of the competitions and so forth.

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And are they backed by the military as well?

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Okay.

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Okay.

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The ones you mentioned might be.

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I'm not familiar with those two you mentioned.

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We can explore those, but the other private type ones are not.

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Okay. And I checked into a few of those.

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Mr. Scott?

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You know, in the few events that I've been where the ROTC kids from May Creek are there,

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and not just at the confabs and stuff like that,

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I've actually had an opportunity to speak to a couple.

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I would think, they all seem so dedicated and really bright kids, I would think if we could put together some sort of genuine outcome analysis of those kids when they left that program.

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And some of it could be empirical, some of it could be testimonial.

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But if we think that the program is a good program, and we think that we want to survey to at least give it an opportunity to expand,

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I would think that one of the things that would be helpful in giving credibility to that survey and the results would be to let other students see the end game.

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Sometimes you do it maybe because you get a good result.

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you get a uniform, but what's the end game to this? I have a gut feeling that there

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may be some real good data there. There may be some real good information that

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itself could be motivational to that cohort of kids that are interested in that.

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Chair, when I was speaking to the gentleman in Florida, he had mentioned

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that the Navy does a survey for families and students and collects all the data

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from all cadets or sampling of it. I'm not sure what he said, but if I can get

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my hands on that, I'd be happy to share it with you of what they're saying about

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the programs. The more local the better. Yeah the local I think we have to do on our own.

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Okay. Yeah. Well we could pattern. We could. We could do similar questions and

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we should create something and I talked to Dr. Vroom. She is the expert in our

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surveying and I'm sure we can come up with something together. Well that's my

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call. Yeah. I don't want to walk away from it without an effort. Without taking a

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I understand that people are talking about putting this in all the campuses.

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I just don't understand why we would want to open up, say we do non-campuses.

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You're looking at almost a million dollars.

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What we have at Miller, what we have at the Shaw Center is a great collection facility.

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We talk about buying the University of Houston.

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I don't know why we need to put all these in all the campuses.

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this great program we have at Mayday Creek, but I mean, one program, we've got one unit,

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you hire as many instructors as you need, maybe you've got one officer, which are really

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hard to find.

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I just don't see the need to push it to all the different high schools.

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We don't do that with...

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Yeah, I don't think we could sustain it either.

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Based upon the numbers we're seeing, and let me just kind of sum this up real quick, and

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I think it was great.

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This is the purpose of the strategic design, to get input from the board based upon our

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investigation of what y'all wanted us to look into. We're going to survey, we're

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going to do some program evaluation to see success of the cadets in that

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program. Are they in the Navy? What are they doing now that used to be in the

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program? Also a recruiting mechanism off of the survey that we include a video to

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give a visual to the students so that they can see the program so that we can

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can get some true input from them.

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I don't think that we're looking at, matter of fact, I can say with all certainty,

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we're not looking at putting it in all high schools.

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We're looking at the possibility of maybe one more unit.

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We don't have access to the Army.

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We don't have access to the Marines.

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We don't have access to the Air Force because they're not accepting applications.

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The Navy is accepting applications, but we go to 200, and they're not growing programs.

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that 200 only fills a spot of a program that then quits or recents.

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Repurposed units.

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Repurposed.

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But through the National Defense Corps cadets, we could possibly do a program that would put us up at the front of the Navy

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if there is 120 students that would fill that program.

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And that's going to be our goal is through the survey, the program evaluation, with the video component to the survey,

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Bay can we have a true indication of whether the program would succeed in

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another location without lowering the numbers at our current location of

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made Creek okay okay so right sounds good to me

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this recap answered my follow-up question okay great thank you all right

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thank you Mr. Ackworth we'll move to 4.2 Katy Independent School District 2017

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demographic update Dr. Guzman and Ms. Poole

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sorry I got some in there. President Dayen, Dr. Hint and board members we wanted to review a

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few moments of data with you. This has been a very challenging year and let's

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see I think we're on the wrong point. Oh okay good. And you'll want to point it

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that direction. There's no way. Okay.

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So, as you know, this district has had the highest student growth for the official data

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that we have available and that was through May of last year, the highest out of 61 school

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districts.

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And if we look for the last five years, we see that Katy and Houston ISD were virtually

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tied, but of course Houston added another school district, North Forest.

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So actually Katie was the leader for those five years. That's important to note because interestingly

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the district does not have the

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lead for new housing. So that means it's gaining students in

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existing built-out subdivisions as

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homes sell, they're being reoccupied with younger families, and of course apartments are also playing a role.

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Now this shows for the state of Texas the importance of Katy and its growth

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again for the official data available to us as of last May and I think it's

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fascinating to see that this district can can grow at this rapid a rate given

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its size relative to say Frisco for example the first ranked. Now the last

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few years the growth has been four and three percent growth and of course we

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are expecting around that same growth for the next five years. It's actually

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significant growth for a district again of the size that typically lumbers

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forward like an elephant instead of seeing this high growth continue. Now one

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One interest has been the growth in charter schools, and you can see here that Houston ISD has 14% of its students in charters as of this past year, and 12% in ALEAF.

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but here if we look at Katy ISD you can see that if you look at the last column

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94% are attending Katy who reside within Katy 2.3% in private schools and

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3.1% in charter schools and actually the district has added only a thousand to

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charter schools over the past two years so that's really important to see

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because some districts that we work with, like for example Dallas ISD, has added

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about 5,600 in a two-year period, a large number.

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And that's far more than the total number of charters that have been approved across the state of Texas in the last couple of years.

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Oh, absolutely, yes. So it makes Katy very interesting. We've looked at Katy relative to the top 10 largest districts.

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districts. And so Katie has not attracted students to charter schools in the way that the other top 10 districts did. It's interesting.

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So here, the most important data here is the maroon data on the percent unemployed. The reason that that's important to continue watching is that the parents that we're

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interested in will not relocate to this area if there's just a minor change in

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that percent unemployed. So we try to follow that carefully knowing that it's

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going to help us project for the fall what the growth in enrollment will look

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like. It's sort of a sacred umbrella that affects the student growth. Now here we

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We know that interestingly the district has suffered in two years losing between 14 and

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2016 losing around 32,000 to 34,000 in energy related jobs.

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But at the same time in that time period gained still 17,000 net new jobs.

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jobs. And then in the last year from 16 through 17 to date, the

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district has gained over 3,000 new jobs in that one year alone.

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So you can see the return to normalcy. When we look at

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housing, keep in mind that we are looking at projections for

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every subdivision that's an active subdivision. For new

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apartments, those that are continuing to add occupants, and at the same time we

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look at local regulations and ordinances and how that affects the number of homes

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that can be built. And critically we look at infrastructure characteristics

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like transportation improvements and that's so important

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in opening up specific sectors of this district for new development. So here

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this is fascinating to see what's happening in the Northwest. Katie Hockley,

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Katie Hockley Cut-Off, Sharp Road, and West Road all opening up this district

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in areas that have been basically ignored because they were, you know,

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farming areas in the very recent past. And then the Texas Heritage Parkway is

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the Fulcher Parkway and that is being considered without knowledge still of

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what date that will be complete. It could be as early as four years away and

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affects greatly the southwest. Also keep in mind that 36A will be just to the

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west of the entire district running north to south or south to north and

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again providing another arterial for the district particularly for commercial

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traffic. Now housing starts are up 6% through September including the

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challenge of the hurricane. So that's new homes were very little affected. They

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were affected for one week and for four weeks but the housing starts marched on

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with very little impact. Now it is interesting to see that Katie ranks

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behind Fort Bend, Sci Fair, and Lamar in housing starts and yet is adding the

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most students. So you know the district has also more density of students per

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home than those other districts. We we work with those other three districts

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districts and they have a lower ratio of students per occupied home.

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Now again, critical to know that Harvey in terms of the northwest will probably not affect

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the number of housing units.

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With the new reservoir, that alone will not affect the number of housing units because

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it's expected that much of the flood plain will disappear.

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So like with the Wood Creek master plan community, it initially had 80% floodplain and then once developed had 20% because of detention, outfall, and so forth that altered the amount of floodplain.

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A very costly undertaking that usually the big developers are involved with.

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Bridgeland?

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Bridgeland, of course, they had their wetlands permits approved about two and a half to three years ago.

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and again very significant changes in terms of detention and outfall and they

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had no flooding for Harvey they were marooned but no no flooding and so the

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newer housing units had almost no flooding on the hole in the district the

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older housing with lower elevations of the foundations were most affected so

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So again, we have been told that Katie and Cy Fair, at least the regional director of

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Metro Study said he thought that those two districts had the most challenges.

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But here you can see that nonetheless experts are suggesting that we're going to have about

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the same number of housing starts throughout the Houston area and we see that in Katie

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as well.

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and interestingly Kirk LaGuardia and Dwayne Ekman, two commercial brokers, who've estimated this growth phenomenon for decades in this area,

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say that there's still going to be 9,500 new acres plowed for development a year.

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And much of that is in the Katy, Cyfair, Fort Bend locations.

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Now this terrifying looking map that's difficult to understand shows in, and it is terrifying,

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shows in the red the boundary of the district so that it's so hard to see the Katy boundary

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but it's south of Sharp and then in the yellow circle is the catchment area that's most likely

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for the third reservoir and the option which six entities have been working on

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that may be announced soon or they possibly have been announced last Friday

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the turquoise shape of the reservoir takes in in Katy predominantly

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predominantly northwest Katy's master plan community. That is a term used by Troy Maxwell for his future development.

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So actually most of this plan for the third reservoir with this plan, which is considered the optimum plan,

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includes Troy Maxwell's parcels and the Katy Prairie Conservancy.

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And so the Conservancy evidently would be reimbursed.

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They would, of course, be paid up front,

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but also there would be some reimbursement as their land flooded in situations like Harvey.

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And otherwise it would be used very similarly to Barker and Addicts.

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Dr. Guzman.

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Yes, ma'am.

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Madam President, while you're here, this is the one called Cypress Creek Reservoir.

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Is that what it's called?

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Yes.

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that people are talking about.

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So do you believe that's going to happen, actually happen?

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I, of course, there's a lot of hope.

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Let's see, Ed Emmett says 100%, and the developers say 50% or a little above.

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They're hopeful because they'll have more certainty about how they can develop

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and when they can develop.

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So they're very, very interested and involved.

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Is there a projected loss of housing comparable to pre-reservoir planning in the Katy Island

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area?

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So the way that I understand it is that with the reservoir and also the complex aspect

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of this is to have enough outfall.

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That means the deepening and widening of the creeks like Bear Creek, Cypress Creek and

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so forth as it leaves that reservoir.

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So that's much more difficult to deal with and I don't know what will happen there now. It's more fraught with probabilities that are negative.

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But with the reservoir, we should end up about having about the same number of lots.

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Because again, we'll lose a lot of the floodplain. If you look at those parcels in the northwest part of the school district,

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so many of them are entirely flood plain and they need the reservoir to be able to build out effectively the remaining portions of that area.

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area. So here then in this district we use some FEMA data to suggest that based on the

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elevations of structures based on the foundations of these structures that 7,209 structures

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were flooded and the red top hat on the top right is the Bear Creek area and then in the

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far southeast is Memorial subdivisions about five and about five apartments and

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they were devastated you know having the the greatest amount of flooding so I did

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bring a couple of maps that I thought you might be interested in I think

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they're in the boardroom that show dot densities of the type of devastation but

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but the east of Highway 6 in red had the most serious,

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and we have a breakout of over 8 feet, over 5 feet, over 2 feet.

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Cy Fair had 67%, 2 feet or less, but not Katie.

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Katie had about 54% in that category,

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and they had 10% that would be over 8 feet,

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and a huge portion of that number was in that that memorial area east of six. So

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here are apartments that will be occupied in the coming year. A couple of

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them were in the process of being occupied when Harvey occurred. Others are

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being rehabbed due to Harvey and of course we have to follow this because

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students will be moving in. We also looked at how many students had changed

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and had moved into apartments in the district and it's just amazing to see

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how many students can be packed into some of these apartment complexes.

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There's really an amazing phenomenon and here then back to normalcy we're looking

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at the housing projections for the largest subdivisions and there's

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Northwest Katy evolving up in the north and then Cross Creek is rapidly building out.

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We know overall that for these largest subdivisions that there are about 11,600 units over the

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next 10 years to occur in these master plan communities, but at the same time, 28,500

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hundred overall we anticipate will be added in the district as new housing

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units. Likewise for the new multi-family developments that are the largest not

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necessarily the most near term which is also interesting but another list we're

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looking at the largest within the district that are anticipated and you

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can see that they're fairly well spread out the only near term is one that's

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already open that's Broadstone on 6 right on the edge of the reservoir on

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the east. So here are those multifamily complexes and overall we anticipate

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almost 15,000 in 10 years but know that basically these are primarily the first

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five years because we don't have knowledge that we need beyond the first

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five years. So around 43,763 housing units are projected. That would be one of the largest numbers

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in the state for new housing and you're used to seeing that. It's just that the locational

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configuration of the growth has changed away from the the southwest. And this shows the 10-year

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projections and what you see that looks like it's in the Barker reservoir is

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actually some apartments on either side of it. You see it in red but there's no

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no construction there. And here then it's important to see that we had about

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317 students withdrawn before we got the data on October 4th. So that we're

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we assume affected by Harvey. On the other hand then there were other students

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the the one that we're showing here are students that were able to remain in

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their attendance zone and yet are not living in the address that they had when

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school first started. So really this looks like a terrible situation with

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with 2342 with that code alone.

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But keep in mind that it is the 7200 housing units

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that were affected that we have to be interested in

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because some of those will be resold or leased by investors

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and they will have more students than those that left.

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So we really have to watch that and starting this spring,

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try to understand this phenomenon

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because it's not this 2300 that will be our challenge. Dr. Goodsman, excuse me Madam President, would you repeat what you just said?

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So the biggest challenge I think facing the district is what happens in the spring and summer when the 7209 damaged houses are changing their ownership

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or rentership even relative to those who lived in those houses before the

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hurricane. So 7,200 houses were... That we've identified through FEMA

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data and those are structures. Some of them are apartments. And so we need to

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understand. So they need to either repair them and move back in or they will... They may sell. So for example in

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Bear Creek is such a good example. The age composition for Bear Creek and for Memorial to the east of Highway 6 is about the same.

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But that Memorial area had ratios in the apartments and the homes of about .04 students, just roughly, per housing unit, apartments and single family.

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And I think it will stay somewhat that way.

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But in Bear Creek, where there's an embedded elementary school,

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had the same older age structure in general.

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So a lot of the students we see are from Bear Creek that were displaced.

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On the other hand, there are many more homes that did not have students in them.

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And we need to study what will happen to those over the next few months.

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From an investor standpoint, are you seeing any signs that investors will buy up homes to convert them to rental property in any big degree?

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We've talked to realtors, and they see it as a phenomenal boom to their business boom, I guess,

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because there will be changes of ownership.

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Some will be investors.

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I love it, Mrs. Goyle.

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myself looking at the real estate industry we're seeing it rapidly being

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moved that way there's a lot of houses in that southeast quadrant that are the

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people are just walking away from and I know in Bear Creek with the the older

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demographic they're exactly gonna have people that are going to move in that

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have children where previously they didn't that's where we see that

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phenomenon occurring most and I so appreciate your helpful comments because

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we've been at a loss to try to predict. Bear Creek is going to explode with

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children and I think it's wonderful. We need that youth to come back in. It was going to

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evolve one way or the other. It just got forced. Right. That's right. Absolutely. So

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students per home again Katie's always higher than others as I mentioned. It

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used to be even higher at a point eight students now it's about a point seven

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and apartments are also quite high. This is a very coveted district in which to

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live. And then projected students, we estimate 95,099 students in 10 years and

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after that and it built out a little over a hundred and six thousand students.

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So that you know the district will keep growing predominantly in the Northwest

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and of course that means schools are needed and Chris Poole is going to

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briefly cover the data that deals with student projections and schools. Okay we

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do have a low immediate moderate growth and high growth scenario here you all

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have seen that in the past and we do try to bracket in the the growth over the

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next 10 years. So I wanted to talk just briefly about the projected students. I

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know all of you are familiar with this. It's not your first rodeo, but we do

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everything that we just talked about, we do roll that into the projections of

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student enrollment. We've got employment, projected new housing, the students per

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housing unit, the geocoded students, and then we've also done a quite an

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extensive study of recent trends in the last seven or eight years to see what's

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going on in the existing subdivisions. And all of that gets rolled together in

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projections by land use zone little pieces by by grade group I'm sorry I

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should read my notes for each year of the next ten years and so when we have

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those land use zones all set up then we can join them back together and start

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helping the district to do their planning so I'll start here just with

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the attendance zones in the southwestern quadrant of the district and you guys

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know that our projections are based on the geocoded student population and that

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is where the students are residing today and where they're expected to reside in

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the future we know that the students do not always attend the school at which

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they are assigned based on where they are live living and so we count the

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students who are not attending their schools as transfers the numbers of

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transfer students that have impact the actual enrollment of each campus and so

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that's why you'll see an enrollment that is a little different than the geocoded

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students in various situations. So in this map here we have in parentheses

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we've got the enrollment I mean the capacity of each one of the facilities

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and for quite a while the district has been building facilities that were a

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thousand and thirty at the elementary school level so most of the new ones

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that you will see will be a thousand and thirty but a lot of the the older ones

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are a little bit different and Katy Elementary for example is very small

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Wolf Elementary also. We also are showing the enrollment here because for example

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at Jenks Jenks has a bilingual program that's very large so about 400 students

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right now a little bit less than a hundred students of in that bilingual

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program are actually residing in Jenks so that most of those the students are

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transferring in and so that does make a difference here but that's the primary

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difference here in the enrollment you don't have it very many of the other

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programs clustered around in the southwestern quadrant of the district

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moving on to the northwestern quadrant of the district the first thing that

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jumps out at you is the large amount of growth that we're expecting in the

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Bethke zone and in the Bryant zone of course we provide 10-year enrollment

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projections and we know that the first five years are more useful than the last

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five years but we use that last five years as benchmark data and of course if

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you look at even Bryant we can see that by the time Bryant and then the extra

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students and Katie are taking care of it that's maybe a future elementary

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schools worth and that Bethke could have several elementary schools worth by the

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end of the projection I know when you see the number you know it's out there

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you see you know it but then when you actually see the numbers and and what we

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could be expecting because that zone is the whole of the growth that's the whole

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of that area. Also to note here is there are bilingual programs in this sector of

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the district at Hutzel, at King, at Morton Ranch, and at Frans Road, Fransch Elementary.

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In the northeastern sector of the district, many of these elementary

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schools have bilingual programs, but a lot of the bilingual programs kind of in

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this area are servicing this, they're serving the students that reside in

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those zones, and so some of them don't have massive numbers of students that

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are transferring in the bilingual programs here show up at Bear Creek at

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Schmalz at Rhodes McRoberts Franz Morton Ranch Sundown and Stevens so it almost

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runs the entire gamut there if you were following along as I read that list out

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but like I say you don't see in some cases that much difference between a

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geocoded enrollment and the actual enrollment because a lot of those

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students are staying put in their home campus

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to attend a bilingual program. And then finally in the southeastern quadrant of

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the district we did have bilingual programs at Fielder and at Memorial

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Parkway and then of course you will notice a low number at Creech. Creech had

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a higher number of course last year of geocoded students and we did see

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withdrawals of quite a few withdrawals in that area so of course we'll have to

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keep watching that and see how that data does shake out here in the future. Then

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Then at the junior high level, the enrollments are a lot easier to understand and assess

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because we don't have those large-scale programs that are moving around.

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The two immediate areas of interest are in the southwest and the northwest.

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I think that makes sense to everybody, and it's really good that we can open that new junior high

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in the southwestern quadrant of the district because you can see Seven Lakes and Tays are expected to be quite large.

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As a matter of fact, with both of those facilities having an enrollment of around 1,400,

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If you just peel off the top of Taze and Seven Lakes, take them down to 1400 and take those students to the new school,

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you're already at like 80% of capacity for the new school before you've touched Wood Creek or done anything else.

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So you can see that that is a good concentration and we should be able to open that facility very well utilized.

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Then, of course, you have to move on up to Katy and to Stockdick,

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which with each one of those possibly looking at around 24 or 2500 students.

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And then finally at the high school level, these projections look very similar to the

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elementary and the junior high in that there is pressure in the southwest and pressure

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in the northwest.

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I know you all are expecting that and we've been talking about this coming for quite a

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while.

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Similarly to what I just mentioned about the junior high, if you look at Tompkins and Seven

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Lakes and just look at taking the top off of Tompkins and the top off of Seven Lakes

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there that overage on the capacity you could fill a new school at about 75 to

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80 percent of capacity and then we've still got Katie to deal with along the

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way and then of course there's pay toe that we could project as many as 5800

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students and by the way of course we're not expecting the district to be built

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out inside of 10 years so that ends the project ends the presentation do you all

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have any questions. I think this is more for Ms. Gussman. Ma'am you're talking

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about the third reservoir. Is that strictly like for flood control like

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Bear Creek or do they plan on building a reservoir that like holds water and that

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they use surface water to pass out to the community? As far as I understand it

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it's going to be virtually identical in terms of the utilization because the

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The Katy Prairie Conservancy will want to continue its use as best they can.

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They'll build it to flood, they'll drain it out slowly over time.

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I presume that's the case.

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And again, real hope is that they will have the outfall

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that they aspire to for the deeper and

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widened channels of Bear Creek and other creeks

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that will allow this drainage that's necessary as well.

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well. Hopefully the water gradually moves to the ship channel. Thank you.

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Anyone else?

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I do have one real quick question. I noticed on Payto, I'm sorry, excuse me, Madam President, I forgot to ask.

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On Payto, you're capping them, or you're estimating them in 2027 at 5819. It looks like just a rough,

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asked a number when we look at the projected housing new housing occupancies

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on that slide when you compare the two just the very tippy tippy top it you're

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looking at close to 12 to 14,000 homes even at the ratios that we have I would

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think that we're going to be grossly under projections at 5800 I know that

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we're going to some of them will be going to Katie if we left everything the

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same but I think I think that 2027 there may be a little bit light well in that

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in ten years from now we go through in and assign different ratios to each one

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we don't just assign the .72 across the board and then of course the .72

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that is the average about one quarter of that like .24 percent are high

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school students okay and so you have to keep cutting cutting down to get to the

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number it's almost 50 percent that are ee5 you know and then it counts on down like that okay

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all right and this has to be very conservative because we definitely does you know don't want

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the district to over buy land or an over build absolutely so we don't know for these new master

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plan communities what the ratios will look like and right now for the bridgeland uh type

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development and the Ellison type developments, we do not have a fixed ratio at all even

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because they're creeping up in Ellison each year but very little. It's a lower

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ratio than Seco Ranch at the beginning of its massive build out. So we have to

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be so careful about those ratios and how they differ for each subdivision in

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those master plan communities, the current ones and the ones of the future.

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cool interesting thank you yes dr. Goodman D or Chris do you know what year

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we will get to our hundred thousandth student I just need to know for a friend

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a couple years after the 2027 right five years after gonna be very thank you

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make any state 100,000 students that we made him sign it many sign it on the

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dotted line thank you very much it's always like borders yeah as we look at

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this you know we're just like oh my goodness oh my goodness and it's a lot

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it's a lot to take in but you always do a really great job and you've been doing

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this how many years have you been doing this for our district many five or six

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since the mid 90s.

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Since the mid 90s, yeah.

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We appreciate you very much.

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Thanks for your help.

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Thank you, Dr. Guzman.

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And Ms. Poole, I believe that you are presenting

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with Mr. Cruz on 4.3.

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Okay.

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Planning for growth results for the community feedback survey

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on the attendance boundary modification

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associated with elementary school 41 and recommendations.

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Good evening.

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Dr. McIntosh.

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Yes, thank you, President Mann.

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Board of Trustees and Superintendent Hint. Thank you. Oh yes. Is that any better? Yes.

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Thank you so much for having me back again. We are reviewing results of the

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survey that we administered this year which we've been doing on an annual

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basis for the last several years every time that we have an attendance boundary

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modification which is about every year here. So this year's survey as you'll

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as you'll note is for the modifications needed for elementary school 41 which

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affects the elementary school zones for Randolph Elementary and Jenks Elementary.

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So just a couple of notes about the survey and how we administered it this

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year. We received a lot of feedback from you all last year and took all that into

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consideration and made some changes so I'll note those as we go through this

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presentation. The first of those being the amount of time that people had to

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participate in the survey. The survey actually launched July 6th so in the

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summer and we left it open all the way until November 8th so obviously Harvey

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Harvey happened in the middle of that. You'll see that we had five survey reminders, several

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of those that happened before the hurricane event, and then we had a couple of reminders

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after as well. We'll go over response rates and what that looks like in the different

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attendance zones in a minute. Also of note, we did send the survey specifically to parents

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who have children enrolled in those two elementary schools. I'll show you the survey results

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based on parents whose children will be impacted by one of the two or potentially both recommended

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options here as well as looking at everyone else who is also has children

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also enrolled in those two elementary schools. These maps look very familiar

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obviously this is from some of the demographic data. I wanted to show you

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this here the difference between the two options or the the two attendance

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boundary modifications that we're looking at reviewing and that we asked

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for feedback on. You'll notice that the one on the the difference between the

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the one on the left and the one on the right is one attendance zone 73L which I think you're

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going to hear a little bit more about here in a bit but one thing to note is that that

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attendance zone has very few families currently living in it and so that makes up a little

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bit of the difference that we'll talk about between support of those two options and I'll

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reference specific numbers of people in addition to percentages as we're looking at the survey

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results because of that. This is what our response rate looks like this year and

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this is there's quite a bit of data in this table so I'll walk you through it.

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818 people in total took the survey and that's about 28% when we look at the

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nearly 3,000 people that we invited to take the survey. The first few rows that

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I have blocked off there are from participants who are in the land use

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zone specifically impacted by one or both of the modifications that we're

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looking at this year. So if you look at just that group it's about 33% of those

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individuals who are specifically impacted who took the survey and again

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if you look at the individual numbers of people who were invited you'll see that

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there's a varying number of families that live in each of those zones. Some of

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them have quite a few over 300 almost 400 people invited in Laney's zone 73B I

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think that's that number there as opposed to if we look at 73L which is

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that one I just mentioned just four people were invited to take the survey

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because of the the very few number of families that live in that area. Looking

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at a little bit about who took this survey we asked a lot of information

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about how they get to school the ways that one or both of these modifications

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will impact their lives this was a really important data point of note we

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asked them if they had been impacted by a modification in the past and you'll

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see here that 342 said that they had. When we asked those individuals what

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that experience was like, there was about, let's say 31 percent said for them it

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was a positive experience with another 48 percent

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saying that it was a neutral experience, neither positive nor negative. But when

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we asked them about their child's experience, we got a really positive

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result here where over two-thirds of them said that their child's experience

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was positive. This is important. I'll reference this again before we get

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through the end of the presentation because obviously that is the first

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concern of parents whose children are changing schools is what will that

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experience would be like for my child so I'll reference back to this but we were

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really happy to see those report the positive experiences for those that had

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had been through this process before so this is looking at everyone together I

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mentioned we're going to look at those specifically impacted in addition to

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those who are not specifically impacted by this year's modification you can see

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there's not a lot of difference when we ask them whether they to the extent to

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which they support option number one and option number two if you're looking at

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the response items this year this was a change that we made compared to last

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year and prior to years we've asked you fully support somewhat support or do not

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support this modification based on your feedback we change that to have multiple

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points in the scale so it's fully support somewhat support somewhat do not

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support and do not support at all as well as a not sure or no opinion option

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that's important because as you look at the differences between these two

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responses here the biggest difference is in the number or the percentage that are

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not sure you really don't see that much higher of a percentage it looks like

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there's far more support for option one over option two but it's really that you

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see more that say that they're not sure for option two and part of that could be

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this is certain speculation but when we were talking internally about this the

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map for option one is very clean line and easy to understand the map for

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option two has a little bit more curvy lines in it and so there's certainly a

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potential there that they don't know is just simply that the map is less clear

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pure speculation but a point to consider as you're looking at that now we're

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going to look at families that are that come from that land use zone area that's

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going to be specifically impacted compared to those that are not and as

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you would expect those families that are directly impacted don't support it

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don't support it as much as if they are not impacted you see those that that do

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not support it that percentage increases one of the things the team here asked us

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is if we were surprised based on our experience to see that and and not at

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all I mean any time no families want to move and so anytime that you ask them

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how much do you support this change we're expecting to see that the majority

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of them are not going to love the idea we were actually pleasantly surprised to

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see the percentage here that actually do support it. We'll talk about

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some of the reasons why they said they did support it. But for us the

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interesting story here is the difference between the two options. If we know that

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change has to happen, how many of them support option one over

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option two? And the percentages here are a little bit misleading just simply

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because like I mentioned the small numbers of families in some of those

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land use zones. So one thing to keep in mind when you're looking at the

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difference here we're actually talking about a difference of 12 people that

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support option 1 over option 2 and whenever we look at where those people

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live remember there's just one land use zone that is the difference between

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option 1 and option 2 and all except for one of them that support option 1 over

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option 2 don't live in that land use zone so really talking about one family

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here that would be impacted between the difference in option 1 and option 2 that

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say that they prefer option one. I'm not sure that's clear. I'm happy to clarify.

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Okay good. And then of course if we look at all other land use zones

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you see a little bit more support for option one but again it's the difference

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of those that say that they're not sure which we talked about in the prior slide.

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This is I already mentioned this here but this is just showing you the

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percentage that fully support or somewhat support by land use zone. So

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when you look at those numbers here this is where you see that in those land use

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zones in the top box there's really only a difference of 12 people and 12 people

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more support option one over option two so the last section here the last date

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I'll go over with you is the reasons for supporting versus not supporting when we

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asked those this is the group that will specifically be impacted by the change

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those that said that they support or somewhat support one or more of the

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the options we asked them why and the biggest or most commonly chosen response

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here was that they feel like the proposal better balances enrollment

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across all schools the next one you see down is I like how close we would be to

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our new school and again the green bar is for option one over option two and we

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don't see a whole lot of difference there between those reasons I'm sorry

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reasons there for supporting it I think the big story from this slide here is

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just that they like the fact that there's a balanced enrollment across the

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schools. When we asked those that are going to be specifically impacted why

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they do not support it, you can see down at the bottom 72 percent option one and

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61 percent for option two said that they are concerned about their child

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adjusting to the new school. Not surprising it's the most common reason

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that we see people not support a modification like this, but again we

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were really not that we love to see people concerned about this but we're

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pleased to see those report back that had gone through this before saying that

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their child actually had a positive experience through a change like this so

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if there's any reason not to support it we were happy to see that we had some

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data to back up an ability to support people through this change the next

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reason there is that they're concerned that there will just be another change

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in the future and so that was the second most commonly chosen reason for not

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supporting it. The last piece here this is all other land use zones so families

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that are not directly impacted it or impacted by this we ask them again if

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they support it why they support it. Same reason I feel the proposal best

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balances enrollment across all schools and then they feel like that it will

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stabilize enrollment for a long period of time. Those were the most commonly

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cited reasons for supporting that that modification and then when we asked

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those not specifically impacted why they don't support it their most common

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response was that they feel like enrollment at the original school is too

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large and that's for option one and then also they feel like the proposal doesn't

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balance enrollment between the existing schools so again those would be people

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that are not moving and that didn't support the proposals they're concerned

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about long-term enrollment and balancing of those so just a quick overview here

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there is a slight slightly more support for option one over option two but again

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we're talking about a difference of 12 people in the impacted area. Also

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important to note that even though a small group of parents said that they

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had a positive experience through prior attendance boundary modifications at

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almost two-thirds actually a little over two-thirds said that their student had a

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positive experience and then as I just mentioned the main reasons for

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supporting those changes both for families that were impacted and those

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that were not impacted is that they liked the balanced enrollment and the

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reasons for not supporting it if we're talking about families that are impacted

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they're worried about their kids adjusting to the new school and for

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those that are not impacted because they don't feel like it goes far enough in

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terms of balancing enrollment happy to answer any questions questions

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questions. Madam President. So I mean really there's not much difference

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between the two so that makes it easy easier. 73L the distance between both

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campuses looks about the same on this map of course that's hard to know what

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about thoroughfares and things to get to both campuses about the same? Dr. Poole

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might have to answer that is that something you can answer for them?

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okay okay that's okay I've learned a lot about demography from them but not that

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much okay thank you thank you appreciate it thank you dr. McIntosh all right we'll

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move on to our consent agenda agenda item 5.1 consider future board approval

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the attendance boundary modifications for the 2018-19 school year

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Good evening, President Vann, Board members, Superintendent Hint.

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I'm here tonight, as Dr. McIntosh just alluded to, to talk about the ABM for Elementary 41,

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which is in the Cross Creek subdivision.

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and we need to establish a boundary for that school so that we can put students in it in the fall.

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As you just noted, K-12 reflected on the survey insights for this proposed boundary

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and that there are two options.

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Here you see the process that we follow for the ABM.

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We talked about this in June a little bit.

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and we are now to the point where it's getting close to decision time and the

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reason that we need a decision at this point is we start looking at notifying

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the parents that's number one you want to give them plenty of notice number two

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we develop bus routes and also we start looking at staffing timelines right now

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so it's really important that we move the process along at this point and look

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look for a decision. You'll notice the two dates that we met were in June. I came to you in June,

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which was backed up a little bit so that we had more time for parents to consider the changes

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and stakeholders to provide input. And you'll also notice that we're here for December. What

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you may also notice is that we were going to give you an update in September, but a little guy

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called Harvey got in the way for that. So that altered our timeline just a little bit, but I

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I believe we've compensated for that by providing plenty of reminders for our parents about the surveys

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and offering lots of opportunities, about three months of opportunities for them to provide input.

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At the conclusion of next Monday's meeting and pending board approval of one of the ABM recommendations,

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the KDISD Communications Department will begin the process of informing our community of the proposed changes.

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It is now my pleasure to introduce Chris Poole who is here to review the proposed ABM options

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and provide any further updated information.

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Okay, good evening again.

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So as you know, as you just heard, we have updated our demographic update and so then

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we've taken the new data and we have put it into the options that we prepared at the end

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of last spring.

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We used the 2016 information at the end of the spring because we wanted to provide more

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more time for everyone to take a look at the ABM process. So the first map here

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are the current attendance zones. It does show the current attendance zones. It also

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shows where elementary 41 sits. Right up in here it's a little hard to see. Right

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there in Cross Creek. These are the same figures that I showed earlier. This is

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just a zoomed in version here. We are looking at the enrollment and we do have

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have to keep in mind that Jenks has around a 400 student bilingual program

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three three hundred and some odd of those students are transferring in

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instead of actually being the geocoded students there so for option one and two

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honestly the numbers did not change all that much for between 2016 and 2017 for

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elementary 41 and for Randolph this is option one the opening of 41 this would

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we create a clean split for Randolph along Fulcher Bend Road.

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That's Fulcher Bend right there.

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That's the line between the red and the yellow.

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Pulse 51C and 73B from Jenks.

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73B contains Churchill Farms,

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and 51C contains Tamarine Lakes 2 and Weiss Land Development Parcels,

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which we're not expecting that much from in the near term.

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This would open Elementary 41 just based on geocoded students

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at around 60%, and then, of course, you can see here

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that we've laid out as much as 10 years' worth of enrollment.

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But what we're also expecting is to split that bilingual program about in half and send many of those students to Elementary 41 to continue to relieve jinx and to provide a really strong level of utilization for Elementary 41.

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And that's something that we're looking at doing in both Option 1 and Option 2.

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And then for Option 2, this is Option 2.

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It is just moving 73L.

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it's very lightly populated at this point I think there are around 12

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students at the elementary school level that are there right now we're

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projecting it to be as many as 30 to 50 students depending on which year you're

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looking at in the future this lane use and actually it's two tiny clusters of

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streets and they're separated from the rest of the things around them by some

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green space and so then they have the frontage there like miss Fox was asking

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earlier they can actually jump out onto Fulshire Bend Parkway and so what they

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would do to get to the new school I assume is they would dump out on the

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Fulshire Bend Parkway and it's difficult to see but then Cross Creek

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Bend Drive that goes up there if you can see that on your map to the school

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and so we assume that that's how they would likely attend school that way so

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So, that is Cinco Ranch Boulevard and then as it enters Coles Creek it changes.

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So that's the main road that she's referring to that they would, that

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neighborhood is, that's the entrance to that neighborhood would be kind of like

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off of Desilva. Comparing, maybe it's Cinco Ranch Boulevard, they've just clearly changed it.

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I mean, the Divorce Your Man.

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So to give you a perspective, if that's what you were asking.

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Yeah, just to make sure they had an easy access there or to here,

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which would be, you know, if that's the one that's in question.

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Right.

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They're wondering.

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Yeah.

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Are you good?

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Okay. So after a lot of discussion about which one of these two very similar options might be

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recommended you know doctor from K-12 insight we found out that

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there were 12 12 students that are 12 responses that preferred option one but

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it's such a small number that we were recommending that we look at option two

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because it does provide slightly better utilization to open the school and it

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provides better long-term balance in between the two schools and the

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the responses were so very similar.

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So that's what we're bringing to you all tonight, recommending option two.

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All right.

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Thank you, Ms. Fultz.

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Do we have any questions?

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Madam President.

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Ms. Fox.

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Did I hear you say that there would be a bilingual program at this school?

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That's what we're proposing, both under option one and option two,

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because that bilingual program in Jinks is so large that it would be split into two pieces.

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And so that it would, yes, it would be added on top of these geocoded students here

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to both better utilize the new facility and to also to really jinx on top of

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the gfm students so what you see the jinx is 1280 but it really is a thousand

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thirty with that is that right was jinx built we built additional space for

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bilingual program at jinx but it's already exceeded its capacity in that we

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didn't build additional space at 41 but because of the lower numbers of students

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there based upon this boundary we've got space that we can utilize there.

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Jenks has very high ratios of students per house right now they're almost all

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over 1.1, 1.2, very very high right now. Madam President, Dr. Hintz, when we did

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when we did the bilingual in Jenks it just went right out my other ear. I'm

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may I may I continue my thought absolutely so I remember that we had

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jinks all settled and then they brought you brought to us a proposal for like an

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addition there I mean it was expensive it was a lot of money to add the there

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was a lot of money to me to eat we I wasn't here but I know right so we added

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it there but it's exceeding that so we have room you're what you're asking us

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for is the elementary 41 we're currently building has enough room for those ESL

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students you're not going to ask us for four million dollars that's correct we

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have the room for the bilingual program to be split and it provides good

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utilization for both our buildings and honestly provides Jenks with a much

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needed relief if you look at their projections that continue to explode so

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I remember having a conversation with mrs. Pato that evening when it was asked

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goes like wow mr. Pato that's a lot of money and she said children won't get on

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the bus to go over across the Grand Parkway to be to get the services they

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need at some of the campuses where we have ESL programs so children will be

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underserved and I was like I needed to hear so I like that we're able to serve

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the students at elementary 41 and we have the design capacity there and so

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yeah that's a great and you're right when I'm at jinx it's it's so well it's

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the best utilization of space between three schools option two between Jenks Randolph and then now 41

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Jenks Randolph and 41 I love it okay great thank you for answering my question so I know thank you

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don't don't knock it out of my head again so that um that bilingual program is not just for that

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school or that feeder area that's a several school thing much like we have at Fielder and Memorial

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Memorial Parkway. That is correct. There's about a hundred students that are

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actually zoned to Jenks in that bilingual program. So that leaves

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300 that are not and we've been looking with curriculum at some options for I

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guess reboundering those students to 41 and we think we have some good options

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identified that increase a lot their time on the bus and will allow much more

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space obviously at 41. Are a lot of them in that new 41 area or there and along that?

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Southwest Quadrant. Southwest Quadrant. That's it's a big bilingual population.

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There are a handful of students that are bilingual in the bilingual program at

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James they're in 73B. Okay. And so that is actually moving to elementary 41 and so

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that's why we're talking about splitting it out but it's not quite as easy to

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just say we'll just pick them up and move them to the new area.

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move them because some are moving when we create the zone but it's not very

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many. So I have a little bit of a concern your recommendation is option 2 which

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takes 73 L to elementary 41 that's right you said so just a little information I

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actually live in this neighborhood 73 L is connected to 73 E via a large lake so

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so they can get on their bikes, ride that around the lake,

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and then ultimately ride their bike to Randolph by crossing that Cross Creek Bend,

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which isn't a super busy road.

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It's still an internal road in our neighborhood.

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Versus Llewellyn Bend, which is now your Cinco Ranch Boulevard extended out,

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and there's going to be a lot more traffic in that particular area,

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similar to the Fry Road entrance to Cross Creek Ranch.

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and you're taking 73L, there is no direct access at that point to stay within the neighborhood

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if you had kids that wanted to ride their bikes and so forth to get to elementary 41.

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Now they're crossing a major road, two major roads to get to that elementary school,

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and we're not talking about a ton of kids like you said.

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It's not.

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So that's a little bit of my concern.

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It feels like when you're in the neighborhood and you live in the neighborhood,

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73L is still very much internal when it's connected to 73E.

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But when you separate it out of 73E, you've now completely separated any internal way for these students to get to and cut through and get.

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We have lots of students in my neighborhood that do ride their bikes because they only have that one cross.

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They can cross right there on Cross Creek Bend, and when they cross over, they're in the neighborhood that's right by the school,

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and then in that neighborhood is where all the crossing guards are.

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okay once they get into that neighborhood which is over 73 a they're

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directed by crossing guards to get to their school okay so that raises some

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concern for me is that the border mrs. Doyle that that's quickly line there is

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that the border of Cross Creek or is all of this Cross Creek it's all it's all

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that's all of us all of us you're not turning a sliver of Cross Creek out no

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it's all no no no it's all Cross Creek I'm just talking about when you take 73

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73L out of Randolph, they're no longer internally capable of getting to Randolph versus getting to 41.

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Correct.

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That, and then my other concern would be, because it seems like we're pulling from Jenks,

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because of our bilingual program, into elementary 41.

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Again, we're talking about a small number of kids in 73L.

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I would hate to run the risk of them potentially having to backfill and say, you know what?

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We really need to take even though it's 30 or 50 kids

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it makes a difference because this program is growing and we're pulling from jinx and

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We're gonna send them back to Randolph. I don't want to do a flip-flop with these kids where we're gonna take you out

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But then you know what we actually need you to go back

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Right. Well when we look long term and of course what we're showing you here is the 10 years worth of projections

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But when we look long term, we're showing that they are, we are expecting them to be

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relatively balanced.

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And we are going to be putting those bilingual students on to elementary 41 also.

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So without bilingual students at Randolph, it's likely to be a little bit higher.

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But we are looking at, you know, 10 years out from now.

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And so those programs may be changing and we may be moving some things around that way.

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How many students in 73L?

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It's like 12 or 13 now.

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I think we're projecting maybe 18 for the fall as many as 30 and on up a little bit more than that

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Depends on that, you know depends on the year

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Mr. Scott Courtney could could you tell what you said and just is there is there a transportation slash safety?

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Issue that a focal point. Could you expand on that? Sure because 73 L the only way these kids could walk

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well walk or ride their bike is to cross Fulcher Bend which is a much busier road

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this one coming in versus getting them to Randolph which is all

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internal roads right and those are kids that choose to walk or ride they're

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provided transportation now but but if the child chose not to use our bus to

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to get to school and ride a bicycle or walk,

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then I see what Ms. Doyle is saying,

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that if Filscher Bend becomes what Cinco Ranch Boulevard is

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now, which it is likely to be, I would say probably

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in the next five, six years, then yeah, we're

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going to have that issue.

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The question is, and this is what the board pose to us

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as an administration, we need to do a better job of balancing

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our numbers at all of our schools because we've got schools that are

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exceeding their design capacity and we have some that aren't because of

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programs and we've worked very hard for that but the total number of kids from

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what I'm saying is a 40 student up or down depending on overall 73 L maturing

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out is that right mr. crews classroom yeah and and to be quite honest with you

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you know as we always are the survey indicated that they like flew well and

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or that Fulcher Bend as that natural boundary it makes sense so if the board's

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comfortable with that slightly imbalance when y'all asked us to balance we're

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perfectly fine with it they're both good options that's what we don't have in

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this conversation you know I'm sure with option one option one remember this is

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not an action item we're getting input from you guys we'll come back with that

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action it's on consumer agenda all right and we can make that adjustment coming

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back as an action item I mean not as an action item we can adjust the consent

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agenda with your recommendation tonight but it will be an action item next week

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It will have to be.

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I was about to ask the board if they were okay leaving this, not sending this to consent,

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but having it be an action item next week.

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Yes, sir.

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Bottom line, when the administration leaves here and all the people that have worked on

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this, do you have a problem with option one?

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No, they're both good options.

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We're fine with both.

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We felt like we needed to give you a choice.

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I will tell you, the option one is such a clean look.

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Yes.

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It is a beautiful looking zone.

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But if you really want to get into the business of using our buildings as we are charged to do,

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then I had to give you the option to provide more balance.

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And I know that there's some bike routes there,

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but that small zone provided more balance to both campuses.

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I guess what I'm unclear on or the transportation that you you identified

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Courtney do those students have bus transportation they're not like some of

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the folks in the Taz zone kids from 73 help will be provided bus

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transportation to Randolph or to 41 all right they're provided a transportation

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by the district. Madam President. Mr. Lacey. Mr. Cruz you mentioned that it would be

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the tub-number kids we're talking about could be as in ten years could be 50

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kids. 40-50 kids. So and you mentioned that it could be two classrooms. So those two

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classrooms. That's if they're in two grade levels. That's right. Yeah that's if you dump everybody in one. It could be that it bumps three classes over. You never know. Because of the way you have to do elementary and classrooms. And so you lead right into the

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question that I want to have and uh Ms. Poole we know that it's just a total number we it could be

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two kids in kindergarten three kids in first grade I mean it could be loaded anywhere so it um

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well I sure do like clean lines you know I agree with that it was option one yes

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okay is that this one or is that this one either way works yeah all right anyone else

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Okay, so is the Board fine with not sending this to consent and having it be an action item next week?

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All right.

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Thank you.

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5.2, consider future Board approval of ground lease agreement to EcoSite LLC for the construction and installation of 100-foot cell tower.

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Mr. T.

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Good evening, President Vann.

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Board members, Dr. Hint.

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It's recommended that the Board of Trustees approves a ground lease agreement to Echo Site LLC for the construction, installation, maintenance, repair, replacement, and operation of a 100-foot cell tower located at Cardiff Junior High School, as depicted on the attached lease documents.

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ECHO site LLC has obtained a permit and authorization from Harris County to

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construct a hundred foot monopole cell tower at the school site in the

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northeast corner of the campus. ECHO site LLC is requesting the district to enter

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into a 10-year lease agreement for the tower compound and a 20 foot wide

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utility and access easement from the site from Clay Road. The lease agreement

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has four successive five-year renewal option periods. All costs associated with

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the construction of the cell tower and related to pertinences are placed within

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the easement will be the sole responsibility of Echo Site LLC. This

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lease agreement has been reviewed by District Legal Counsel and approved as

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to form. Board approval of this agreement is consistent with board policies BAA

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legal and DAA local any questions for mr. T I have one I said a lot of questions

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today don't we much like and this is just a curiosity thing years ago 20 30

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years ago there was a lot of concern about high power lines running close to

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a school district it was up north part of Houston has there been any studies

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with these telephone wireless things I mean I don't want to run around like we

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we should have tin hats on or something like that.

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But is there any danger to our children is what I get down to with these?

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I can check on that.

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I do not know myself.

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Okay.

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I was just curious.

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I think it's interesting that they're popping up everywhere.

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Ask Elon Musk.

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All right.

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Mr. Teed, you're here with us for quite a while, so settle in.

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5.3, consider future board approval of method of purchase for minor renovation projects.

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Yes, ma'am.

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It's recommended that the Board of Trustees approves the method of purchase for the renovation project involving various areas of Katy High School utilizing the job order contracting method.

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The job order contracting method will provide the best value to the district for this minor renovation project at Katy High School.

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The renovation project will involve removal of student lockers and identified areas, wall and floor repairs, painting of hallways and two gyms, replacement of the door laminates and identified sections of the building, and also replacement of the partitions in the restrooms of the A-Wing.

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The work is scheduled to be done during the summer of 2018 and be complete by August 1 of 2018.

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18. Board approval of this recommendation for method of purchase is consistent with

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board policy CH legal, CH local, CV legal, and CV local. I know you mentioned the restroom

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in this project. The only thing that's being done is a partition. I know there's been some

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concern about some of the states and some of the restrooms. Yes, ma'am. At this apartment,

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we replaced the fixtures and repainted the restrooms and redid the ceilings just before

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the start of school in August anyone else have any questions well will run a

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present so we're still hearing questions about bathrooms at Katy high school are

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we aware of yes we are aware and we've got future work yet to be done

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politicians like you said mr. T it's not in this but it is in some of our GOF

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funds and things that we're going to take care of we've made this we've made

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this promise to the campus unfortunately we've got a couple of folks and I think

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I think we all have to name them by name that keep reminding us of the work that needs to be done.

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We're going to get the work done, and it should be complete before we start school next year.

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Yes, sir.

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Good.

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Great.

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Thank you so much.

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5.4.

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It's recommended that the Board of Trustees approves the competitive sealed proposal method

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for purchase of the concrete paving at Central Maintenance Annex,

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concrete repair and replacement at the support services complex,

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and the repair and installation of asphalt pavement at May Creek Junior High and May Creek Elementary School.

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The competitive steel proposal method will provide the best value to the district for the installation of concrete paving at these locations

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and the repair and installation of asphalt pavement at May Creek Junior High and May Creek Elementary.

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The recommendation of award will be presented at the February 2018 board meeting.

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Board approval of this recommendation for award is consistent with board policies

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CH legal, CH local, CV legal and CV local. Any questions? Thank you. 5.5. It's

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recommended that the Board of Trustees approves the job order contracting

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method of purchase and award of the not to exceed contract pricing for the

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installation of a fire sprinkler system to Brown and Root utilizing the national

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IPA contract number R160402 at Creech Elementary at the University of Houston Cinco Ranch site.

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The installation of the fire sprinkler system at Creech Elementary at the University of Houston Cinco Ranch.

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Wait, wait, wait, I tend to correct you. That is now a KDISD site.

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Not yet, thank you. Not yet.

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Another week.

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We had to submit this before the board meeting.

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Okay.

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We'll provide.

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Oh, I'm sorry.

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It's being made at the request of the state fire marshal.

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The job order contracting method will provide the best value to the district for this project.

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Design work will commence immediately with award,

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and the actual installation will begin May 29, 2018.

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The installation is expected to be completed by August 1 of 2018.

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Project funding sources the general fund, project not to exceed cost of $650,000.

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The contract has been reviewed by district legal council and approved as to form.

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And board approval of this recommendation for method of purchase and award is consistent

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with board policy CH legal, CH local, CV legal and CV local.

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Madam President.

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Mr. Lacey.

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Thank you for breaking this out as a separate part rather than including this in the purchase of that building.

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I think it's much more transparent if we have this, you know, with us going through it.

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I'm just very glad that this is a separate part, so thank you.

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Sure.

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5.6.

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It's recommended that the Board of Trustees awards the contract for replacement of water softener systems

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at identified locations to rainbow water purification

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utilizing by-board contract 501-15.

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The replacement of water softener systems is necessary

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to prevent buildup of scale in the kitchen boilers, steamers,

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and domestic water boilers.

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The recommendation to award is made to rainbow water purification

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utilizing by-board contract 501-15.

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work is scheduled to be completed by August or April 1st 2018 the facilities

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identified are Alexander Elementary that junior Beckendorf junior single ranch

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high school single ranch junior high Creech Elementary education support

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complex Exley Elementary franz elementary Griffin elementary Hayes

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elementary Katy high school made Creek high school McDonald junior high McMeans

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junior high Memorial Parkway elementary Memorial Parkway junior high McMeans

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junior high Morton Ranch junior high Randolph elementary Rhodes elementary

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Schmaltz elementary Seven Lakes high school Schaefer elementary Tompkins high

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school Taylor high school Williams elementary Wilson elementary Wolf

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elementary and woman elementary replacement funding is the 2014 bond

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savings and general fund can you repeat those schools total replacement cost of

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three hundred and three thousand eight hundred and seventy six dollars this

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contract has been reviewed by district by district council and approved as to

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form and again this board approval of this recommendation is a consistent with

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board policy CH legal CH local CV legal and CV local mr. Scott you mentioned

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Creech Elementary and I presume we're talking about the original Creech

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Elementary why wouldn't in why wouldn't insurance cover that we can't identify

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damage to that system that would be covered by insurance you picky do I just

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it was inoperable before the storm so that hurts that hurts an interest by the

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way that those costs I looked at one and it's six thousand dollars for my house

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yes no kidding all right five point seven it's recommended that the board

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Board of Trustees approves the contract for the replacement of carpet flooring on the second floor at the Education Support Complex and the Merrill Center to Brown and Root utilizing the National IPA Contract Number R160402.

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The carpet flooring at the replacement at the Education Support Center and the Merrill Center is part of the 2014 bond component replacements.

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The work will be scheduled over the holiday break and weekends so as not to interrupt district operations.

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replacements expected to be completed by March 1 of 2018.

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Carpet flooring replacement funding source is a 2014 bond.

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Total project cost is $352,714.

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The contract has been reviewed by District Legal Counsel and approved to as form.

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Board approval again, this recommendation is consistent with Board policies

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CH Legal, CH Local, CV Legal, and CV Local.

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And if the board recalls, we approved a total re-carpeting of the administration building there, the ESC, upstairs and downstairs.

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I believe that cost was about $800,000.

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At the time, of course, we didn't spend that money because Harvey hit, and now we get to charge our insurance for the downstairs.

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So this is just the adjusted cost of the $800,000 for the upstairs.

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Any questions?

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Okay, 5.8.

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It's recommended that the Board of Trustees approves the recommendation to authorize the superintendent or his designee to execute an electricity supply contract on behalf of Katy Independent School District for up to 60 months,

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as long as the price complies with a benchmark effective energy rate of below .045 per kilowatt hour plus transmission and distribution in any PUC assessment and gross receipts tax charges.

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KD Independent School District has issued a request for proposal for electricity services

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to allow for obtaining and negotiating electricity prices for a group of meter additions that

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will comprise less than 10% of the district's total electricity load.

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The responses have been submitted and the district has continued to further negotiate

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prices in contract forms with the responding parties.

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Because of the fluctuating and volatile pricing of electricity during a period

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of a day or possibly hours, the district is seeking the Board of Trustees

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approval to designate the superintendent or his designee to execute an electricity

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supply contract for up to 60 months as long as the price complies with a

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benchmark rate below 0.045 per kilowatt hour plus transmission,

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distribution, and any PUC assessment and gross receipts tax charges with any of

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the four top responding retail electricity providers. The evaluation

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summary and confidential pricing sheet is attached for your review. Electricity

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funding source is the general operating fund. The contracts have been reviewed by

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District Legal Counsel and approved as to form. Board approval of this

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recommendation for award is consistent with board policies CH Legal, CH

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local CV legal and CV local madam president mr. T have we so AEG is our

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consultant we're paying them fees their fees are not included in these prices is

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that correct that's correct okay are these where will this electricity be

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used it's a small amount but is it campuses that already exist or this

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This electricity is for our additions for the elementary 41, ag project complex, the new barns, the ESC annex, and Creech University.

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Okay.

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So will we be using this?

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Will we be implementing it right away?

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Or will it be, so for 41 and the ag, it'll be a while.

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But for Creech University, we'll be doing that right away?

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Yes, since we've purchased the price, the property, once that sale goes through, right

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now we're paying through pass-through charges to the University of Houston.

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Did we request a bid from TASB because TASB is a...

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Yes.

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But I don't see that here.

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We did.

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Their bid was .0524 per kilowatt hour with no total charges.

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charges. Is that the one that's here highlighted under the with the red? Well that's what we

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requested one without the extra nodal charges but they're proposing what we are currently

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the current agreement with the district. And what was it? .05? .0524 per kilowatt hour.

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Okay. My understanding is that so I appreciate the right to give the superintendent the designee

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the power to make this decision because it changes so quickly my understanding

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is that that price is dropping all the time so the longer we can wait to make

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the decision I think the better the price will get there's there's some I

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work on an energy board and there are some changes coming that are going to

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drop that price so looking forward to a better price so we we can do that of

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course we can't wait too long no no creep but we can certainly do that we

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do those where they go okay that's right yes sir thank you very much yeah I'm

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glad we're going to go after our best electric pricing for the district I

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think it makes very good sense so there's some really good prices in here

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yeah some really good prices and I kind of think they're gonna keep coming down

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but there's some good prices thank you very much all right still with us mr.

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Mr. T, 5.9.

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It's recommended that the Board of Trustees approves the contract for replacement of the cafeteria and gym flooring at Sundown Elementary School

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to Briner Root utilizing the National RBA contract number R160402.

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The flooring replacement at Sundown Elementary is the last of the 2014 bond component replacements of cafeteria and gym flooring.

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The installation will be scheduled for the week of spring break 2018.

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Full replacement funding source is the 2014 bond component replacement. Total

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project cost is $98,266. The contract has been reviewed by

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District Legal Counsel and approved as to form. Board approval of the

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recommendation for award is consistent with the board policies CH legal, CH local,

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CV legal and CV local any questions okay I move to 5.10 our first 2017 bond

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agenda item yes ma'am it's recommended that the Board of

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Trustees approves the contract for the replacement of HVAC chillers condensers

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pumps and associated equipment at the support center complex West

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West Transportation, Opportunity Awareness Center,

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Rhodes Stadium, McMeans Junior High,

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Schmaltz Elementary, King Elementary,

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and Hutzel Elementary to Hunt and Services

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utilizing the Choice Facilities Contract

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number 14-021-JN-05.

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The HVAC chiller and associated equipment

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and replacements at these identified facilities

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were approved for replacement as part of the 2017

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bond component replacement program. They've all exceeded their expected life cycle and utilized the R22 refrigerant, which is no longer being produced.

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Their units are being replaced like for like. However, the new units have a higher efficiency rating than the original equipment.

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The associated equipment are pumps, starters, variable frequency drives, piping, insulation specific to each location.

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A copy of the proposal is attached for your review.

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All replacements are scheduled to be completed by April 30, 2018,

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with the equipment change outs performed at night and over the weekends

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so as not to disrupt campus instruction or facility operations.

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HVAC Chiller Project Funding Source, 2017 bond.

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Support Service Center complex cost is $325,528.

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West Transportation cost $118,585.

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Opportunity Awareness Center cost $522,696.

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Rhodes Stadium cost $96,371.

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McMeans Junior High cost $616,164.

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Schmaltz Elementary cost $510,423.

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King Elementary cost $512,522.

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Hustle Elementary cost $457,321.

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For a total project cost of $3,159,610.

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The proposal has been, or contract has been, reviewed by the District Legal Council and approved as to form.

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Board approval of this recommendation for award is consistent with board policies.

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CH legal, CH local, CV legal, and CV local.

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Madam President, I will say that the pricing that you see, Mark referenced the contract number therein,

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and that's where we get our pricing from competitively,

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but this is actually a contract that we've actually gone to Hunt and had them review

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and get on our own terms and conditions because we do so much business with them on an ongoing basis.

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so the contract reference therein is the correct contract for the pricing

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purposes but we do have a local district contract which we've negotiated for

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these thank you very much questions okay we are moving to 5.11 recommended the

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Board of Trustees approves the contract for replacement of the baseball field

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fencing at Katy High School and Taylor High School to Brian route utilizing

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national IPA contract number R160402. The fencing replacement at Katie High School and Taylor High School baseball fields is necessary to repair storm damage from Tropical Storm Harvey. The work will commence immediately with award of the contract and is expected to be completed by February 1st, 2018.

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The replacement, fence replacement funding source is the 2017-18 general operating fund.

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Katy High School fence replacement cost is $137,751.

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Taylor High School fence cost $136,588 for a total project cost of $274,339.

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Contracts have been reviewed by District Legal Counsel and approved as to form.

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Board approval of this recommendation.

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for award is consistent with board policies CH legal CH local CV legal and

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CV local and just so the board knows this is a Harvey reimbursable expense

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that you will see on that weekly chart we provide you yes sir quick question

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I'm sure this is boilerplate language but brown and root exclusions we're on

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the baseball right yes sir these are not old facilities is that just boilerplate

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language to protect everybody's tail or is there some anticipation of a removal

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of hazardous material or unforeseen this weather flake yes sir

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who better president mr. Lacey one thing I didn't notice is the color I'm gonna

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assume that they will be painted green they're actually we're going back with

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our district standard of metal panels and they're pre finished green okay good

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it thank you for all your presentations consider future board approval the

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delivery method for the six hundred nine million dollar bond authorization

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capital construction projects and approval of a selection criteria for

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evaluating construction contractors and construction managers.

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Ms. Katzmann.

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MS.

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Good evening, Madam President, Board of Trustees, and Dr. Hint.

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The first agenda item this evening is to consider future board approval of delivery method.

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For the Texas Government Code, the Board is required to approve the construction delivery

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methods for construction projects over 50,000.

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It has been our practice to bring this item to you at the initiation of each bond program.

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There are three methods I am presenting to you this evening.

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the competitive seal proposal method that allows the district to select the

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contractor that represents the best value to the district based upon the

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published criteria construction manager at risk a process where the construction

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manager is retained early in the project and assists in project planning

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particularly regarding scheduling and budgeting this method is appropriate for

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complex or phased projects and has been used successfully in the district and

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and the job order contracting typically used for maintenance projects.

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The exhibit A that is attached outlines each project and the selected delivery method.

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For all projects associated with the bond,

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KDISD administration is proposing the district use the following selection criteria

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in accordance with Texas Government Code 2269.

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Furthermore, the district must publish in the request for bids or proposal

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the criteria that evaluates the offerors.

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The criteria selection that we use typically is the price,

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the offeror's experience and reputation, and quality of the offeror's goods or services,

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the offeror's safety record, proposed personnel,

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and whether the financial capability is appropriate to the size and scope of the project

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and the past relationship with the district.

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Any questions?

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Okay.

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5.13?

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All right.

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A second item is to consider board approval for design services for Elementary 42

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for a fee of 3% to VLK Architects.

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Elementary 42 will be located south of Morton Road and west of Brand Parkway

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and will provide relief for the northwest quadrant of the district.

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It is a refined repeat of the Bethke, Jenks, and Bryant models

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and is scheduled to open in August of 2019.

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Any questions?

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Okay.

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5.14?

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The third item is to consider future board approval of a proposal

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for the reconstruction of Creech Elementary.

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It is recommended that the Board of Trustees awards a contract to Satterfield & Ponticus

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in the amount of $5,500,000 with the total project cost not to exceed $5,979,000.

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Ten proposals were received with Satterfield & Ponticus ranking first overall.

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Satterfield & Ponticus has an extensive K-12 experience in the Houston area

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and we're looking forward for them commencing work.

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We have representatives from them in the audience.

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The proposed construction also includes 570,000 of scope enhancements.

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This reconstruction was designed within the parameters of our insurance guidelines,

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which does not cover any additional scope enhancements.

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The district realizes that items outlined above will provide this campus elements more in line with our current prototypes.

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And just so I'm correct, this also includes, although they weren't on schedule for a comprehensive renovation,

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renovation, this includes what that comprehensive renovation would have been.

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Yes.

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Okay, so we've kind of combined them so that we get what we were going to do four or five

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years from now, since we're forced to do it anyway.

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Yes, sir.

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Above and beyond insurance, what is our stake in getting this campus back to?

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We're going to have it ready.

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I put pressure on our folks, but we'll have it ready for school next year.

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But I mean what's the additional dollars that we're spending?

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Oh, 570,000.

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How much?

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570,000.

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Oh, it's 570,000.

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For the scope enhancements.

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For the scope enhancements to have that comprehensive renovation.

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Oh, absolutely.

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A lot cheaper than doing it later.

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Yeah.

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Madam President.

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Ms. Fox.

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So you showed us the design and the renovations and the what have yous a month ago maybe?

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maybe, when we were talking about Galbo and Patterson.

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And I was hopeful that we were going to get all those things

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that they had.

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And you're like, no, insurance only puts back what we had.

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So this is going to get us to where

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we have some of those enhancements and the improved.

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If they had a comprehensive renovation,

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we're going to bring them up.

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Some of those, but maybe not as many.

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But we'll have the wall covering, the windows,

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adding some extra light to the classrooms, the LED lighting.

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and a big thing is the student restroom modifications in the building okay

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that's kind of like rebuilding my house it's like okay new plumbing and new but

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you know but nothing cute so all the furniture costs extra okay I'm good I

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get it thanks I'm hoping like in the library like those movable shelves and

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all that and having the multi-purpose the large group instruction rooms and

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some of those things that really serve as multiple things instead of just

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stationary types we are doing some work in the computer labs more of an LGI area

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and for the furniture that's going to be covered under it but different okay good

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okay awesome thank you very much okay our second 2017 bond agenda item

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5.15 yes it's a consideration proposal for

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preliminary earthwork at the new secondary campus in Cross Creek Ranch for high school 9 and junior high 16.

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It is recommended that the Board of Trustees awards a contrast to Joslyn construction in the amount of $1,579,723

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for a total project cost of $1,732,115.

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Two proposals were received, the Joslyn ranking first overall.

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Joslyn has completed a number of similar projects within the district as a major subcontract.

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This early earthquake package is similar to what we've done in our previous high schools

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to get a jump start in opening up these campuses for the junior high in 19 and the high school in 2020.

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And let me just real quick, the 1,732,115 is a not-to-exceed number.

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It's likely to come in less.

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Madam President.

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Mr. Lacey.

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Have we started?

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I was driving down 1463, and I don't know if it's the HEB that's doing the dirt work.

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It's HEB.

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Thank you.

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There's construction as you come down for a little bit, but it's HEB.

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Yeah, there was a lot of dirt moving. I'm like, I didn't think that was it.

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Yeah, if you keep going a little further, then you would take a right. That's where the land is.

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Okay, cool. Thanks.

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That would be quick work on our part.

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That's what I was thinking.

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Without a contract.

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Or an approved contract.

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That was Dr. Hinn up there.

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Yeah.

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All right, thank you very much.

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5.16.

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Okay, the final item is consideration of board approval for Amendment 3 to steward builders

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for the guaranteed maximum price for the agricultural science expansion.

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It is recommended that the Board of Trustees approves Amendment 3 to steward builders

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for the construction manager at risk contract related to the agricultural sciences center expansion for a total guaranteed maximum price of $29,816,359 and a total project cost not to exceed $33,493,570.

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The agricultural science expansion was identified project in the 2014 bond.

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The master plan was presented this past April.

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Stewart Builders is the construction manager. Amendment was for barn number 8.

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Amendment 2 was for the site clearing package. And this phase will include the construction of the show arena, pavilion, rodeo arena, and other components.

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Any questions? If you guys recall, as the ag facility, it was on the 2013 bond that failed.

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and then it was brought to the 2014 bond the same scope we had a pricing at that time I believe of

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about a little less than 23 million it was 22 of course we've had some delays because of the

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drainage over there we had to do some adjustments to the northeast corner there for some drainage

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we now have tap-ins versus happen to use or that system because of inflationary costs we've also

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seen an increase because of the delay on this the point I want to make though

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with this project is and it's point I've tried to make as I was out discussing

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with lots of folks during this most recent 2017 bond I sure wish that we

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could be spot on with every single project the goal is to come in at and

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not to exceed what that overall bond project is 200 and the 2014 bond we do

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see some inflationary costs here we do see some additional costs from the time it was presented

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in 13 to 14 although the scope of the project did not change all right so we're going to work

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extremely hard to to get the project complete my promises by february of 2019 because that was the

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promise i made to our rodeo committee and that's the promise that we're going to hold on to i just

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want to make sure that we're fully transparent on this that we are pushing

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to get it done with the resources we continue to have in the 2014 bond this

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project along with Galbo and Pattison will be the end of the 2014 bond and

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whatever reserves we see in Galbo and Pattison it is likely we may come back

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and ask you guys to approve some of those reserves on this project so that

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we can complete it to a hundred percent of the overall specs that were presented

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in 13 and pushed 14. Madam President. Ms. Fox. So I appreciate very much the fact

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that we as a board and the administration are going to build this

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AG facility the way we promised. It's it's been it's had delays that we

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couldn't help with the drainage and things like that and I think it really

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speaks to the fact that when projects are delayed the cost go up it just does

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their inflationary cost we see it happen all the time and when our community

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questions like why does the high school cost so much since before the last one

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what the costs go up right and we and when people talk about we'll just wait

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you know don't do it now put it off and those kinds of things that we heard

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during the bond election it we still need the buildings and they're just

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going to cost more if we wait so I love that our community said yes they believe

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that we need those buildings and that more children are coming and that so I'm

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so proud of them for for awarding us the bond election they just did and I

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appreciate very much that you aren't trying to cut the facility you're not

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trying to take away we are not taking away what we promised on this AG

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facility but we'll find a way to make it work and while the costs have gone

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up some we love our FFA and our AG students and the investment they make

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and the things that they benefit from from this facility and I'm looking

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forward to its completion. Mr. Scott. Madam President, members of the board, I

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believe that the primary focus here is to build the facility as promised. Beyond

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that I'm going to do some nonverbal communication.

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That's it. Does that bite your tongue or bite your lip? That was biting my tongue.

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for the common good anyone else okay thank you very much miss Cassidy they're

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all done next 5.17 consider future for approval the December 2017 budget

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amendments thank you good evening president van trustees and

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superintendent here I have a lot of moving parts tonight in the budget the

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The general operating fund local revenue increases a net amount of $5,684,000 to recognize the adjustment to taxable values and the two cent increase to the M&O tax rate, $1.1466.

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State revenues increase $11,337,000 to recognize changes in funding based on that tax rate change.

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Small amendment recognizing revenues and expenditures both increased by $6,200 to recognize budget for human resources to do paraprofessional testing.

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expenditures also are increasing $604,265 for Harvey Amendment number 4 and $4,729,459 to provide for the one-time lump sum additional salary payment to staff.

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The remainder of the General Operating Fund expenditure amendments are direct offsets between different functions.

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The general operating fund it recognizes a budgeted transfer out in the amount of

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8.2 million to the debt service fund. This is to hold harmless the debt

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service for the adjustments to the taxable values and the two cent tax rate

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decrease in that fund. Approval of all of these changes in the general operating

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Fund will result in a $3,487,276 increase to the General Operating Fund

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fund balance. Food service local revenues decrease $400,185 and

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federal revenues increase $4,312,000 as a result of 100%

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student participation student eligibility for free and reduced lunch

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programs during the months of September and October food service expenditures

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will increase one hundred and six thousand six hundred ninety seven dollars

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to provide for that one time lump sum additional salary payment to staff

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approval of these amendments will result in a three million eight hundred three

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$3,805,118 increase in the food service fund balance.

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Finally, debt service fund local revenues decreased $8,166,000

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to recognize the two-cent decrease to the INS tax rate to 0.37.

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And the debt service fund also recognizes a transfer,

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for this being a transfer in from the general operating fund of 8.2 million

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and this is to maintain the district's debt service plan and I'd like to add

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with the board's approval of action item or that item 3.1 which was the purchase

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of the Cinco Ranch University of Houston facility soon to be KDISD facility we

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We will come back.

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This will be an action item because we'll go ahead and put that expenditure in this amendment.

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So when we bring it back for action, independent action next week, you'll see that adjustment in that.

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Is that correct, Mr. Spinn?

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Yes, sir.

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All right.

Bill Lacy not human verified

All right.

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Madam President.

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Mr. Griffin.

Charles Griffin not human verified

Dr. Hinn, I'd just like to thank you and your staff again for capturing those two golden pennies.

Charles Griffin not human verified

I know this was a lot of words, but it sure did make our district a lot of extra money.

Charles Griffin not human verified

Absolutely.

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That's right.

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Thank you.

Bill Lacy not human verified

Anyone else? Okay. All right. So this item will not go to consent. It will be on action for the next month. Thank you very much, Ms. Butterfield. Now Mr. Nauman. 5.18.

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Thank you.

Unknown speaker not human verified

Good evening, President Vann, Dr. Hinn, Board of Trustees.

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Board policy CR legal states that a district may procure contracts with

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an insurance company authorized to do business in Texas to insure its employees.

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As part of the KDIC health plan, the district relies on the services of a benefit consultant

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to provide guidance on regulatory compliance, program design, and independent actuarial support.

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The ever-changing regulatory environment of health care as directed by the Affordable Care Act makes it necessary for the district to engage the services of the consultant for federal rule compliance.

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To manage costs and provide an effective plan for participants, an ongoing review of benefit design is essential to maintain the financial viability of the plan.

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A key role of the benefit consultant is an independent actuarial support, which allows the district to set rates and adequately set reserves for the upcoming plan year.

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Lastly, ongoing monthly financial review of plan results by the plan is a key component to the services the district requires.

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Recently, a request for proposal was issued to the interlocal, of which KDISD is a part of, for benefit consulting.

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As a result of the process, four consultants responded to the request.

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Each respective district reviewed the services submitted based solely on its own needs, desired level of service provided, and ongoing experience with other related districts.

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Following the review of the results, Risk Management believes Arthur J. Gallagher and Company will be a strategic partner that will bring innovation forward

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and allow for connection to other school districts locally as well across the

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state. Important factors in the selection of Arthur J Gallagher are as

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follows. A local office in Katy currently providing health care consulting

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services to 20 school districts locally and across the state. Previously vetted

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by Texas Association of School Boards TASB for benefit consulting under a

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separate and unrelated proposal, national and local presence in the government

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sector client market, ability to provide planned communication and support

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services of KDISD benefit website, consultant services to include

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compliance, actuarial analysis, pharmacy design, provider audit, and monthly

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financial reporting, and compensation is fixed. The proposed annual fee of four

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$420,000 is considered for one year with the option to renew annually for four additional years

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if services and rates are provided are both satisfactory and the renewal is agreed upon in writing by both parties.

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Additionally, Arthur J. Gallagher and Company is proposing for an annual fixed fee of $100,000

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providing communication and web services for KDIC health plan.

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The combined services, consulting and communication proposed equals $520,000

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compared to the expiring total for the same services of $791,496.

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The net annual administrative savings to the health plan equals $271,496.

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Risk management believes Arthur J. Gallagher and Company represents the best value

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for the district from pricing and a service perspective. It is recommended

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the Board of Trustees approves the contract for benefit consultant for the

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five-year period April 1, 2018 to March 31, 2023 with Arthur J. Gallagher and company.

Charles Griffin not human verified

Any questions? Madam President. Mr. Griffin. Sir, you have done a great job so far

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taking care of the district. That bottom note that says represents the best value

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for the district from a pricing and service perspective do you think you'll

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get the same quality that you had before absolutely I do I think farther reaching

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is the ability to partner and hear other work collaboratively with other

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districts in the state that they represent and kind of take the lead in

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that role so I'm very very highly optimistic and looking forward to

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working with Gallagher. Thank you. Anyone else? Okay, thank you Mr. Nauman. 5.19 Mrs. Holland. Consider future board approval of the legal policies and adoption of local policies to include board policy update 109. Board policy update 109 includes the statutory changes to legal policies and recommended local policies. There were

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enough quite a number of bills we know know they were passed by the legislature

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and they have provided us with the salt here of about thousand plus pages of

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stimulating reading our department head and division leaders have been reviewing

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these policies and to make certain that we are complying with the legal policies

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then that we are consistent with those in our local practices there are as

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As you've noted in this particular update, a few changes to the governance section,

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some of which certainly impact the board in terms of additional duties and some of their responsibilities.

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If there's any questions that anyone has, I'd be happy to try to address those at this time.

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Madam President.

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Mr. Scott.

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Unfortunately, what I'm about to do is not a joke.

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Over the course of the last week, I have learned that I failed as a member of the board

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to read some of these local policies and I vowed unfortunately this morning at

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about 6 a.m. that I didn't I hadn't looked noticed that this was coming at

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this meeting I overlooked it that I would not ever adopt both personally to

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adopt local policies that I have not read and there is no way that I've had

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time to read 1495 pages so I have a couple of questions and I view that

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they're important one does it really matter if we put this policy issue on

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the agenda for the next meeting is it essential that these policies be

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formally enacted by this board next week the legal policies as you know mr. Scott

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already requirements so they're in place regardless you know the board approves

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that was actually my second question in fact there's nothing that the board

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could do to change the law right and whatever the law is we're subject to it

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whether we have voted to formally bring it in to the policy manual that's

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correct that is correct so if I already are obligated to implement the legal the

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The local is the only thing within our discretion.

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I've seen a couple of local policies that if it were my input,

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I would suggest that we reduce from 20 paragraphs to two.

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And I'm not going to go into the details of that.

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All I'm telling the board is this.

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I'm asking that if we can do that,

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is that we move all the legal policies to the committee agenda next week

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and delay the local ones till January because believe it or not I'm going to

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read every dormant word of every local policy that operates this district I

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will never ever cast a vote for a local policy that I have not personally read I

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am embarrassed that I have come across a policy that I might as well have been

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been living on the planet North.

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And I'm a pretty experienced kind of guy.

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So I'm asking the indulgence.

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If we need to move the legal policy to the Consummit agenda,

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I have no problems with that.

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I'm asking for the January meeting

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to be able to leave maybe 600 or 700 payments.

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At least I don't have to leave 1,100.

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14.

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That's what I'm asking.

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Is there anything, and I've perused the list that you gave us, the improvised list.

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I'm looking at it now.

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I certainly hear what you're saying.

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We can certainly do that.

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I don't know if there's any local policy that is required to be in place prior to a January 1 start date.

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Is there?

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Well, there are some policies that the board has to set,

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like the policies about visitation to schools I don't think there's an urgency

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but if we if we were to separate these is there any policy under local that has

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to be in place by January 1 okay if there is find it and put it there okay

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what I will do is we'll go ahead and move this to a separate action item give

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Give me the time to look at it so that I can see if there's any time.

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We will bring back that recommendation to you either as two independent items,

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one independent item with a wait for January item.

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Look at that.

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Also, I'd like to remind the board that you can change a local policy at any time.

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I understand that, and I wish, like wish, wish, that last May that I'd have done my job better.

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I plan on doing my job better this time.

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But Mr. Scott, Madam President, Mr. Scott, could we approve them so that it's efficient with what we have?

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And then if you find ones that need to be rewritten and you don't like, could you bring those to us?

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You can do that.

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What I'm saying is, it's stupid beyond stupid that I am preparing myself to vote against policy on principle

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when probably 98% of the policies are perfunctory and needed and necessary.

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But I'm not personally going to vote for a single local policy until I'm ready.

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So what we know is that the legal policy is binding.

George Scott not human verified

We have a superintendent that's going to find out if there's anything local that needs to be considered for next December.

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And I'm just asking for the indulgence of the board to let me waste five hours of my life reading 700-plus pages of local policy.

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Because if there is that one nugget, if there is that one nugget, I want to be able to discuss it before we take a vote on it.

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I totally agree.

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And I hear what you're saying.

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And what I'd like to do is go ahead and leave this combined, legal and local.

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There's 14, all right, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10.

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Local.

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Huh?

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Local.

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Ten locals.

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We can leave them in there.

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We'll move this to an action item with them combined.

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But if any one of those local policies between now and Monday is something that you have a concern with,

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we can always prove that independent local policy.

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I will make a diligent effort.

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For a later date.

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I will make a very diligent effort to read it.

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So we'll leave it combined but move it to an action item so that we have time to look at it.

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And if we want to make an adjustment on one policy or pull it, we have the liberty to do that.

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Okay.

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That's perfect.

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That's good.

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All right.

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Thank you, Ms. Holland.

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So item 5.19 will make a consent.

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It will be an action item on next week's agenda.

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5.20, Mr. Christopherson.

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And Ms. White.

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good evening president van board of trustees and superintendent hint

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throughout the 2017-18 school year the KDIS

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technology department is scheduled to refresh technology equipment at several

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campuses portable buildings and other facilities which typically involves the

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installation of new and updated smart boards projectors televisions and or

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computers to support the ongoing needs of the district these technology refresh

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projects normally require contracted vendors to provide various services such

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such as the addition and or relocation of data cabling, audio video cabling, electrical outlets, and minor wall preparation and repair services.

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In order to provide the technology department the flexibility to contract for such needed services in a timely manner

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and in accordance with board policies CH legal and CVF legal,

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legal it is recommended by the KDISD administration that the Board of

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Trustees approved the job order contracting method to procure these

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services using the interlocal agreement purchasing method through the Harris

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County Department of Education choice partners cooperative contracts number

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16 slash 054 JN-04 and number 15-041 JN-05 for the not to exceed price of

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$900,000 as indicated within the enclosed supporting documentation. These

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expenditures will be funded from bond funds, general operating funds, or E-rate

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funds as applicable. Thank you and at this time I can answer any questions you

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may have. Any questions? No? Okay. Thank you, Ms. White. That concludes our consent agenda items. We move to agenda item 6.1, board member report from Mr. George Scott. Madam President, it's been a long meeting. We have some people that want to address the board. I had prepared myself to give a more detailed presentation tonight, and I

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could do that but I'm perfectly willing to defer that to next week if if you

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think it would perform

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we'll move the board report for the report for the thank you Lord give us

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in the Lord take it thank you I just want to see you bite your tongue one

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Thank you Mr. Scott. Now we move to the open forum part of our meeting. At this time the Board of Trustees will hear from patrons as established by Board policy. The first 20 speakers who've signed up at least 15 minutes before this meeting began and have provided their first and last name will be allowed to speak.

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A maximum of 30 minutes has been allocated with the time divided equally among these

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who have signed up.

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However, the maximum time amount for any one speaker is three minutes.

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If speakers wish to share non-confidential written material with the Board, 10 copies

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should be provided to the Secretary for Board Services or the Chief Communications Officer.

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Due to posting requirements of the Open Meetings Act, the Board is able to only respond to

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a statement related to a posted agenda item. Specific student issues, discipline, or personnel

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matters shall be addressed through the appropriate channels established by policy and the presiding

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officer shall determine whether a speaker has attempted to solve a matter through those

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proper channels. I announce your name. Please come forward and state your first and last

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name for the record. Since we're not in our usual home, we don't have our clock up to

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to show you your timing.

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So Mr. Griffin will have the clock running

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on his personal device.

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And when you have one minute remaining,

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he will oh so delicately chime in that you

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have one minute left.

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So just listen for that audible cue

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since we don't have the clock in front of you.

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So our first speaker for this evening is Deborah Patio.

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Good evening. Thank you for allowing me to talk to you tonight. This has been certainly enlightening. I've never attended a board meeting before. I'm a mom. I have some kids going to Fielder. I have a child in TWI and I have a child in bilingual. So my family is in a unique position to be served by both of these exceptional programs.

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These programs, I came to this meeting tonight because I heard these programs were considered for being relocated to another school.

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And one of the things that I think I can bring to your attention is that moving these programs would not only affect the unique character of the school,

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but it would also affect some of the decisions that homeowners have made in that area.

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I myself moved here from Argentina to Katy to find a school that was friendly to two-way immersion or a dual language program.

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I have a lot of friends who I've recommended come into this neighborhood

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with the hopes that they also can get their children to this program and these

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are friends of mine people I've met through Katie who are interested in

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providing this opportunity to their kids basically as we probably all know as

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adults it gets harder and harder to learn something new as you get older how

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many of you if you had the chance to go back and do elementary school all over

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again would have appreciated it if your parents had provided you with a way to

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to speak both of the most spoken languages,

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not only in our district, in the state,

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in the Americas, up and down.

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I told you I lived in Argentina before.

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I was born in Mexico.

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I'm actually a dual national.

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My kids have three nationalities,

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Argentine, US, and Mexican.

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My parents are both from Texas, and I'm from Cyprus.

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So I'm pretty local.

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I just wanted to kind of mention that.

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I really don't have much more to say other than that thank you thank you

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thank you congratulations on staying in a marathon meeting for your first time

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when I first got here these meetings were a lot our next and final speaker

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for the night is Miss Courtney Johnson. You made it! Thank you. Good evening. My name is Courtney Johnson. I have three children in the TWI program and I have one more that will start in kindergarten this fall. I spoke to the board back in 2015 about a Spanish immersion preschool that I ran and I no longer run it but we are in TWI full force and my family and I are extremely happy with the program. I want to

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first of all thank you for offering it. I would like to remark on the countless

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concerns I've heard from parents in the TWI program about not having this

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critical program continue past fifth grade. When you have something good you

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just want more and I certainly want more. However my background is in linguistics.

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I studied linguistics and I almost completed a master's degree in language

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acquisition and during my studies I learned about what's called the critical

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period of language. This critical period is the first few years of life and

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that's when an individual can require one first language or several first

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languages if they are presented with adequate stimuli. The critical window is

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the time that we can unlock language codes in our brains and as I mentioned

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it can be unlocked for one, two, three, or four, maybe even five languages provided

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there is adequate input in those languages. This critical window ends at

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at the onset of puberty.

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If language input does not occur during this time,

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that individual will never achieve full command

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of the grammatical systems of that language.

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If you look at fair children who are in terrible situations,

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that language input was not given to them

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in the first seven years of their life,

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they have no native language.

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They will never speak beyond me, want, tree,

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that kind of thing.

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Noun, just a noun and a verb that's usually not conjugated.

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Most of you, I assume, took language in middle school or high school.

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How much of you, how much of that language do you speak better than that of a caveman?

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So if you learn language after this window has closed, it is simply too late.

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On the other hand, if you learn this language before puberty,

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it ensures not only that you have it, but that you will have the language code for the rest of your life.

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The if you don't use it, you lose it argument applies only to vocabulary recall.

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It does not apply to the grammatical structure.

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For example, if I choose to move and not speak English for the next 40 years, I will not forget it.

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I will always be able to drum up a sentence, even though I might forget how to say something that was more common during my time speaking English during my first 40 years of life.

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You cannot forget a language that was given to you during that critical window, as long as the input was meaningful enough to give you those grammatical structures.

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And given over a significant amount of time. That's what the TWI program offers.

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Any linguist would tell you that really you should make it a 90-10 model to give more Spanish input, but I'm grateful we have something.

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The TWI program gives a very special gift to the children of Katie and even if it...one minute.

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No.

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He said your one minute.

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No.

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No.

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What?

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I didn't hear you.

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He didn't hear you.

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You're doing such a lovely job.

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Oh my goodness.

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But I'll tell you what I'll do.

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If you have that, it appears to me that you have it in writing.

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I do.

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If you'll send it to me, alright, I'll see to it that the Board of Trustees gets a copy.

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Okay.

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And tell her, I can't talk to her, but why don't you tell her that if she stays after

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the meeting and wants to read the rest of it I'll listen I believe you thank

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you all right so close make note of our future regular board meeting Monday

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December 11th 2017 630 p.m. right back here there being no further business for

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the board the meeting is adjourned the time is 921 p.m.

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MOTION 001 · AGENDA 3.1

Passed

I move that the Board of Trustees enters into an agreement to purchase from the University of Houston an approximate 10.00 acre parcel of property for a total acquisition cost estimated not to exceed $7,236,000.

Moved by
charles-griffin
Seconded by
courtney-doyle

6 Yes · 0 No

TrusteeVote
ashley-vann Yes
bill-lacy Yes
charles-griffin Yes
courtney-doyle Yes
george-scott Yes
rebecca-fox Yes

MOTION 002 · AGENDA 3.2

Passed

I move that the Board of Trustees approves the personnel report as recommended by the superintendent in Closed Meeting.

Moved by
courtney-doyle
Seconded by
charles-griffin

6 Yes · 0 No

TrusteeVote
ashley-vann Yes
bill-lacy Yes
charles-griffin Yes
courtney-doyle Yes
george-scott Yes
rebecca-fox Yes